2015 WR class is pretty good too - Page 3

staylor26 · 05:38 AM

WR is clearly our #1 need after the draft, but I feel better about not getting one now that I started to check out next years class.

Amari Cooper, Alabama
Stefon Diggs, Maryland
Dorial Green-Beckham
DeVante Parker, Louisville.
Malcolm Mitchell, Georgia
Ty Montgomery, Stanford
Rashad Greene, FSU
Antwan Goodley, Baylor
Kasen Williams, Washington
Nelson Agholor, USC
Phillip Dorsett, Miami
Jaelen Strong, Arizona State
Tyler Lockett, Kansas State
Davaris Daniels, Notre Dame
Christion Jones, Alabama

CoMoChief · 05-15-2014, 11:45 PM

I don't think there is any way in hell DGB goes in the first Rd next season.

OldSchool · 05-16-2014, 12:00 AM

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Originally Posted by CoMoChief

Why do that when he'll be there in the 2nd or possibly 3rd?

With his abilities, someone is going to take a shot at him in the 1st. He has 1st overall talent, not just 1st round talent. He's going to stay clean this football season and get selected in the 1st round by someone who is comfortable with taking players who have some character concerns.

He's as close to Calvin Johnson as I've seen in terms of pure football ability. It'll be a slide if he's still there outside of the top 10.

staylor26 · 05-16-2014, 05:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Dante84

Possibly a homer pick here, but Tyler Lockett (K-State) is going to be ****ing sick when he comes out.

Just a junior this year.

Just watched him. He beat Verrett bad for a TD in the TCU game. Great double move. Adding him and a few others to the list.

staylor26 · 05-16-2014, 05:39 AM

Also, would you guys like me to start a thread like this for every position group as I go along? Would be nice to have this type of discussion year 'round in this section.

Saccopoo · 05-16-2014, 07:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Hoover

I think something major would have to happen to derail the Chiefs from drafting a WR in the first or second round next year.

http://www.decisionlens.com/

Jesus H Stop Dancing Christ!

The Utah Transit Authority uses these guys.

No wonder our drafts are so ****ed.

(Actually, I jest. I think that the UTA is a pretty decent mass transit system. Maybe there's hope for this shit afterall.)

CoMoChief · 05-16-2014, 08:27 PM

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Originally Posted by OldSchool

With his abilities, someone is going to take a shot at him in the 1st. He has 1st overall talent, not just 1st round talent. He's going to stay clean this football season and get selected in the 1st round by someone who is comfortable with taking players who have some character concerns.

He's as close to Calvin Johnson as I've seen in terms of pure football ability. It'll be a slide if he's still there outside of the top 10.

True to most of your post. Not debating his abilities.

But this guy screams major character red flags. He was the best recruit his school ever had and he managed to get kicked off the team. And it wasn't just because of 1 or 2 incidents. Dude's ghetto trash who likes and thinks it's ok to get physical with women because he's a star football player. That's the fastest way out of the league if you wanna have that kind of attitude.

OldSchool · 05-16-2014, 11:55 PM

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Originally Posted by CoMoChief

True to most of your post. Not debating his abilities.

But this guy screams major character red flags. He was the best recruit his school ever had and he managed to get kicked off the team. And it wasn't just because of 1 or 2 incidents. Dude's ghetto trash who likes and thinks it's ok to get physical with women because he's a star football player. That's the fastest way out of the league if you wanna have that kind of attitude.

Wouldn't be much different or much worse than having Brandon Marshall on the team.

KChiefs1 · 05-18-2014, 07:59 PM

DGB should fall into our laps.

saphojunkie · 05-27-2014, 04:56 PM

There will be so much epic Mizzou butt hurt when the Chiefs pass on DGB.

'Hamas' Jenkins · 05-27-2014, 05:07 PM

DGB is going to be the most physically talented WR to enter the draft since Calvin Johnson, and probably the third most talented WR prospect of the last 30+ years. Athletically, there's little difference between he, Johnson, or Moss.

If he was on Florida State we wouldn't have heard of any of this. That said, he's not worth it. The guy had a family adopt him and bust their ass to give him the right kind of home and in college he had a supportive coaching staff and he did everything imaginable to **** it up and piss it away.

No Mizzou fan is going to be mad if the Chiefs pass on him because he rat-****ed the Tigers more than any Jayhawk ever did.

OldSchool · 05-27-2014, 05:31 PM

Man, if he doesn't play football next year we might be able to get him in the 3rd or later.

KCwolf · 05-27-2014, 06:52 PM

Really? I believe the guy is the HEAD case that teams run from.... but time will tell

OldSchool · 05-27-2014, 07:09 PM

I think he'll have a fall on draft day that's similar to what Brandon Marshall had in 2006. Two big differences are:

DGB is a superior athlete, better speed and burst than Marshall had coming out.

Marshall had superior college production.

DGB won't go in the 1st if he doesn't play in 2014. If he ends up being out of shape at the combine and drops some passes and just looks rusty, I could see him falling to the 5th-7th round. I don't think that he falls out of the draft completely like Colt Lyerla did because, purely based on raw physical ability, he is the most gifted WR since Megatron. The only way that he isn't drafted is if he returns to school or has more drug and violence related incidents.

If DGB shows up to the combine and lights it up with a 4.4 40, shows great hands, shows great acceleration, proves that he was able to clean up his act for at least 1 year, goes through some form of therapy, and then lights it up at his pro-day as well; I could see him as a top 50 pick despite all of his legal troubles and the fact that he was out of football for a year.

'Hamas' Jenkins · 05-27-2014, 08:35 PM

Brandon Marshall went to UCF. Dorial Green Beckham caught 12 TD passes in the SEC, one fewer than Marshall's entire career. To say Marshall's college production was superior is just ignorant of the talent levels faced.

OldSchool · 05-27-2014, 09:14 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

Brandon Marshall went to UCF. Dorial Green Beckham caught 12 TD passes in the SEC, one fewer than Marshall's entire career. To say Marshall's college production was superior is just ignorant of the talent levels faced.

You missed the point. Marshall had a proven track record and plenty of tape coming out of college, regardless of the competition.

DGB will essentially have 1 season of good production for teams to look at, weighed against all of his off-the-field issues.

Sure, someone might pull the trigger on him in the 1st round, but that's highly unlikely given his issues coupled with his inexperience and the fact that he'll be out of football for a year.

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OldSchool MVP Join Date: Sep 2013 Casino cash: $10035212	I think he'll have a fall on draft day that's similar to what Brandon Marshall had in 2006. Two big differences are: DGB is a superior athlete, better speed and burst than Marshall had coming out. Marshall had superior college production. DGB won't go in the 1st if he doesn't play in 2014. If he ends up being out of shape at the combine and drops some passes and just looks rusty, I could see him falling to the 5th-7th round. I don't think that he falls out of the draft completely like Colt Lyerla did because, purely based on raw physical ability, he is the most gifted WR since Megatron. The only way that he isn't drafted is if he returns to school or has more drug and violence related incidents. If DGB shows up to the combine and lights it up with a 4.4 40, shows great hands, shows great acceleration, proves that he was able to clean up his act for at least 1 year, goes through some form of therapy, and then lights it up at his pro-day as well; I could see him as a top 50 pick despite all of his legal troubles and the fact that he was out of football for a year.
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'Hamas' Jenkins Now you've pissed me off! Join Date: Jan 2006 Casino cash: $8009572	Brandon Marshall went to UCF. Dorial Green Beckham caught 12 TD passes in the SEC, one fewer than Marshall's entire career. To say Marshall's college production was superior is just ignorant of the talent levels faced. __________________ "When the Know-Nothings get control, it will read 'all men are created equal, except negroes, and foreigners, and Catholics.' When it comes to this I should prefer emigrating to some country where they make no pretense of loving liberty – to Russia, for instance, where despotism can be taken pure, and without the base alloy of hypocrisy.”--Abraham Lincoln
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