Chiefs' offense: "one of the worst in the league, by nearly every measure"

[the Talking Can]

http://www.arrowheadpride.com/2013/9...chiefs-offense

some numbers to chew on from arrowhead pride

The Chiefs are actually 12th in the league in PPG, at 23.7. But if you take away the 14 points the defense is directly responsible for, that number drops to 19 PPG, which would be tied for 23rd - with the Raiders. The Chiefs are relying on the defense to score points, which isn't good. Defensive scoring is random and shouldn't be part of the game plan. They didn't need Tamba Hali's pick-6 to beat the Jaguars, but they did need Eric Berry's against the Eagles.

They also are just not moving the ball; their 333 yds/gm is 21st in the league and their 4.9 yds/play ranks 25th. "Well Kyle," you may ask, " if the Chiefs offense is so bad, how are they undefeated this year?" That's an excellent question, thank you for asking. The answer is that the defense and special teams are much, much better than we thought.

The problem the Chiefs are having is getting to the Red Zone in the first place. They're 30th in yards per drive, with only Tampa Bay and Jacksonville behind them, and Cleveland directly in front of them (not good company to be in). This is a really, really bad offense. But here's the real kicker: the Chiefs' offense has the best starting field position in the NFL this year, and still can't score.

The Chiefs average 17 yards per drive better field position than their opponents (ok, ok, 16.95), the best mark in the NFL (2nd table). Only two other teams average more than 10 yards better starting field position than their opponents (New England and Chicago). The Chiefs' average starting line of scrimmage (LOS) is their own 36.97 yard line (best in the NFL), while their opponents average starting LOS is their own 20.02 yard line (also best in the NFL). What all of that means is the Chiefs's offense is handed consistently great starting field position and can't do anything with it, then they let the special teams pin opponents deep in their own territory. The defense bails out the offense by not letting opponents move the ball, giving the offense the ball back with great starting field position. Lather, rinse, repeat.

There's a nice breakdown of our defense against philly over there as well:
http://www.sbnation.com/nfl/2013/9/2...p-kelly-eagles

I have to reiterate and emphasize just how much the Chiefs played man to man -- like a ton of it. And they have the secondary to handle it, unlike most teams in the NFL. Specifically, they matched up Sean Smith on Cooper a lot on the outside. If this had been a prize fight, Cooper's corner would have thrown in the towel somewhere around the middle of the second quarter. Smith owned him right up until the end of the game when he started cramping up. Cooper just couldn't shake him, especially on those aforementioned deep routes Kelly had him running all game.

[Rausch]

Originally Posted by splatbass

I don't care how many banners you fly over Arrowhead this year, we are winning and Clark Hunt isn't going to change anything because of your banners. I really don't think the banners had that much impact on his decisions this offseason anyway. The Chiefs were historically bad, and I think Clark would have made the changes anyway.

I know it makes you guys feel good, but that is about it.

Are you done?...

[splatbass]

Originally Posted by Rausch

Are you done?...

Yup. So are you.

[Rausch]

Originally Posted by splatbass

Yup. So are you.

...

[RealSNR]

Originally Posted by Mac-NinersChiefs

Go **** yourself, you maggot mutherf****r!!!

sick of your lil sissy ass trying to play internet tough guy. **** you! Bitch.

You're the only sissy ass in this place right now, dude. Your Alex Smith post was a crybaby bitch act in every form imaginable.

But then again, they ALL are. This is nothing new from you.

Just shut the **** up.

[RealSNR]

Originally Posted by splatbass

In my view that is the coaching staff's job, not mine. What is the good in CP deciding what needs to be done? None of us can implement any changes.

What the **** are we supposed to talk about, then? How much we love the Eric Fisher pick?

[milkman]

There are some incredibly dense mother****ers around here.

I don't think there is a single reasonable person who looks at this offense that would not point to the O-Line as the primary reason on the field that they are struggling.

But the problem, at it's core, is play calling.
This O-Line has performed late in games when they've needed to sustain drives to run clock and secure wins.

And it wasn't because the opposing defense was worn out.
Without looking it up, I'd guess that TOP was pretty close in the Dalls game.

I know for a fact that at one point in the middle of the third qtr in the Eagles, both teams had run 56 plays on offense, and am pretty sure TOP favored the Eagles.

Andy Reid wants to run what Andy Reid wants to run.

[milkman]

Originally Posted by splatbass

In my view that is the coaching staff's job, not mine. What is the good in CP deciding what needs to be done? None of us can implement any changes.

So let's just shut down sports discussion forums.

[Ace Gunner]

Originally Posted by milkman

There are some incredibly dense mother****ers around here.

I don't think there is a single reasonable person who looks at this offense that would not point to the O-Line as the primary reason on the field that they are struggling.

But the problem, at it's core, is play calling.
This O-Line has performed late in games when they've needed to sustain drives to run clock and secure wins.

And it wasn't because the opposing defense was worn out.
Without looking it up, I'd guess that TOP was pretty close in the Dalls game.

I know for a fact that at one point in the middle of the third qtr in the Eagles, both teams had run 56 plays on offense, and am pretty sure TOP favored the Eagles.

Andy Reid wants to run what Andy Reid wants to run.

what a blowhard

[milkman]

As to Alex Smith, he is, whether you like to hear it, aother issue with this offense.
How many times has he thrown a ball that has traveled beyond 10 yards?

Not asking about deep balls.
Just 10 to 20 yards in the air?

5?
6?

That just ain't good enough.

[Sandy Vagina]

Originally Posted by SNR

You're the only sissy ass in this place right now, dude. Your Alex Smith post was a crybaby bitch act in every form imaginable.

But then again, they ALL are. This is nothing new from you.

Just shut the **** up.

blah blah blah... eat shit, ya miserable lil chickenshit punk.

See, we can throw e-feces at each other all day, and both look silly for doing it. We done now, kid? or you need to get the last word in? Because this fantastic discussion is a waste of both our time and efforts.

[splatbass]

Originally Posted by milkman

So let's just shut down sports discussion forums.

Not my point.

[milkman]

Originally Posted by splatbass

Not my point.

Your point?

You want sunshine and rainbows blown up your ass.

[Mav]

Originally Posted by Rausch

Here you have valid warning signs from people who actually know WTF they're talking about (and no, I don't mean me.)

Meh. You say that because they align more with your way of thinking. It makes it no more, or less accurate, because all anyone is speculating is on what they think will happen.

That is exactly why people who look towards the positive, are shit on here. Because they don't fall in line with the "we have seen this before." CP WHINY BABY MANTRA.

Feel free, not to include yourself into that group as well.

[Mav]

Originally Posted by milkman

There are some incredibly dense mother****ers around here.

I don't think there is a single reasonable person who looks at this offense that would not point to the O-Line as the primary reason on the field that they are struggling.

But the problem, at it's core, is play calling.
This O-Line has performed late in games when they've needed to sustain drives to run clock and secure wins.

And it wasn't because the opposing defense was worn out.
Without looking it up, I'd guess that TOP was pretty close in the Dalls game.

I know for a fact that at one point in the middle of the third qtr in the Eagles, both teams had run 56 plays on offense, and am pretty sure TOP favored the Eagles.

Andy Reid wants to run what Andy Reid wants to run.

And that in itself is the biggest problem. Andy Reid refuses to adapt to the strengths of his team. That is an area that needs to be ADJUSTED.

[Mav]

Originally Posted by milkman

As to Alex Smith, he is, whether you like to hear it, aother issue with this offense.
How many times has he thrown a ball that has traveled beyond 10 yards?

Not asking about deep balls.
Just 10 to 20 yards in the air?

5?
6?

That just ain't good enough.

I haven't seen the routes being run down field. Have you? And no, im not being a smart ass, im asking for informative purposes. It doesn't seem that they are running a lot of down the field routes though from what I can tell from a limited view.

Also, the Oline as you pointed out, has been filthy ass cheeks in the passing game......