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Old 12-05-2019, 08:29 AM  
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Darrel Williams to IR; DB Alex Brown to 53; Dieter to PS

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Darrel is our worst back IMO, so Iím good with this.

Signing Brown makes me think we arenít gonna have Claiborne or Fenton Sunday...
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Old 12-05-2019, 08:51 AM   #16
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Oh, and MOTHER **** KAREEM HUNT. Jesus titty ****ing Christ the endless lamentation of the loss of this ****ing turd is just mind numbing.

HES ****ING GONE.
HES NOT COMING BACK.
DEAL WITH IT.
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Old 12-05-2019, 08:54 AM   #17
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Oh, and MOTHER **** KAREEM HUNT. Jesus titty ****ing Christ the endless lamentation of the loss of this ****ing turd is just mind numbing.

HES ****ING GONE.
HES NOT COMING BACK.
DEAL WITH IT.
Take that, literally zero people in this thread begging Kareem Hunt to come back!
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Old 12-05-2019, 09:18 AM   #18
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I'm gonna guess it's gonna be a true RB by committee with all three guys getting about an even load. If one guy looks hot in a game, you keep riding him, but otherwise you just keep rotating to keep them fresh.
Andy being Andy, I think Darwin will go back under the radar. He'll use Ware and McCoy and forget about Darwin again. It just seems like something Andy is going to do.
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Old 12-05-2019, 09:23 AM   #19
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I remember looking at Alex Brown when we signed him to the PS. Heís a very intriguing kid.

Long arms, 4.42 speed, fluid hips, good feet, solid ball production in college (7 INTís/19 PDís last 2 years)

Pretty much what you want to on paper from guys on the PS. Letís see if it works out.
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Old 12-05-2019, 09:24 AM   #20
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This season has certainly made me question the idea of just going with Jags at RB.
Ain't no kidding there at all.

Man this RB stable sucks. And the Cardinals got Kenyan Drake for a bucket of dicks.

I was just looking at the Cardinals RB situation and was wondering about David Johnson. I know Drake's a FA next year so they might just decide to roll with DJ again next season, but he's been effectively benched this year.

His salary next year is stout; cap hit would be around $10.5 million. But I'd far prefer him to Le'veon Bell and his hit's a couple million lower than Bell's.

Neither of them are options I prefer as I'm not terribly excited about the idea of a $10 million cap hit on a RB. But g'damn - we CANNOT do this again next season. This backfield is a bag of smashed assholes.
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Old 12-05-2019, 09:26 AM   #21
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Oh, and MOTHER **** KAREEM HUNT. Jesus titty ****ing Christ the endless lamentation of the loss of this ****ing turd is just mind numbing.

HES ****ING GONE.
HES NOT COMING BACK.
DEAL WITH IT.
He's looking good in Cleveland though. Maybe there's a chance...
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Old 12-05-2019, 09:26 AM   #22
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Ain't no kidding there at all.

Man this RB stable sucks. And the Cardinals got Kenyan Drake for a bucket of dicks.

I was just looking at the Cardinals RB situation and was wondering about David Johnson. I know Drake's a FA next year so they might just decide to roll with DJ again next season, but he's been effectively benched this year.

His salary next year is stout; cap hit would be around $10.5 million. But I'd far prefer him to Le'veon Bell and his hit's a couple million lower than Bell's.

Neither of them are options I prefer as I'm not terribly excited about the idea of a $10 million cap hit on a RB. But g'damn - we CANNOT do this again next season. This backfield is a bag of smashed assholes.
Thing is, it was pretty similar last year. I don't think this group is much worse than last years once Kareem was gone, but **** it's just been awful.

I think we seriously underestimate just how ****ing terrible the interior OL is. It's just so shitty.

And I'm gonna bet it's Leveon here next year. I dont' care for it, but oh well.
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Old 12-05-2019, 09:26 AM   #23
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I’m all for going and getting a stud back, but I’d prefer not to do it at a steep financial cost.

Draft one in the first couple days. And I don’t think it’ll happen at all, but I’d look into bringing Hunt back on a prove it deal for around $5M.
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Old 12-05-2019, 09:26 AM   #24
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From what I see on A22, the way this line is playing right now just wasnít meshing well for Darrel. He was giving us a little bit of production as a receiver in short areas, but nothing more than what the other guys can give us.

I feel like heís the type of back who needs holes big enough to where he can really roll through them at top speed and then finish with some power. But those holes havenít been available so he winds up more or less tip toeing, and doing it very slowly with little bend in his body to get skinny and create extra yards.
Agreed.

Wrong kind of back for a team getting wrecked in the middle. He needs time to get his shoulders square and get up to speed. He may not be able to 'get skinny' through a hole but if there's a sliver there he can power into it for 4-5 yards.

But he's not even getting a sliver or that chance to build power. It's a little surprising he's been as nominally effective as he has been.

Darrel going down sucks for him but it doesn't move the needle for the team.
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Old 12-05-2019, 09:29 AM   #25
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Nothing against Darrel Williams, but it was weird how he was the focal point of the Chiefs offense at the end of the Chargers game and for stretches of the Raiders game.

Running game, screen passes... the Chiefs were using him as if he was Kareem Hunt.
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Ain't no kidding there at all.

Man this RB stable sucks. And the Cardinals got Kenyan Drake for a bucket of dicks.

I was just looking at the Cardinals RB situation and was wondering about David Johnson. I know Drake's a FA next year so they might just decide to roll with DJ again next season, but he's been effectively benched this year.

His salary next year is stout; cap hit would be around $10.5 million. But I'd far prefer him to Le'veon Bell and his hit's a couple million lower than Bell's.

Neither of them are options I prefer as I'm not terribly excited about the idea of a $10 million cap hit on a RB. But g'damn - we CANNOT do this again next season. This backfield is a bag of smashed assholes.

Chiefsplanet- WHY ARE ALL THESE RUNNING BACKS SHITTY?
also, Chiefsplanet-WHAT'S WRONG WITH MAHOMES AND THE PASSING GAME?

It's the ****ing offensive line, guys. IT'S THE OFFENSIVE LINE.

All the games Fisher missed and we had ****ing Cam Erving at LT. The revolving door at LG. The huge step down from Morse to Reiter at center. LDT is not horrible, but certainly not a plus. Schwartz is your ONE GOOD LINEMAN THAT HAS BEEN THERE ALL YEAR.
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Chiefsplanet- WHY ARE ALL THESE RUNNING BACKS SHITTY?
also, Chiefsplanet-WHAT'S WRONG WITH MAHOMES AND THE PASSING GAME?

It's the ****ing offensive line, guys. IT'S THE OFFENSIVE LINE.

All the games Fisher missed and we had ****ing Cam Erving at LT. The revolving door at LG. The huge step down from Morse to Reiter at center. LDT is not horrible, but certainly not a plus. Schwartz is your ONE GOOD LINEMAN THAT HAS BEEN THERE ALL YEAR.
I'm with you.
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Thing is, it was pretty similar last year. I don't think this group is much worse than last years once Kareem was gone, but **** it's just been awful.

I think we seriously underestimate just how ****ing terrible the interior OL is. It's just so shitty.
What's this 'we' nonsense? You just scolded me for blaming climate change on Austin Reiter. I KNOW how ****ing terrible this IOL is. I wanted to draft a C in the first round, FFS.

It's completely unacceptable and needs to be torched. I like Seth Keysor but Id didn't need him telling me that our IOL has been woefully inadequate this season.

But the backs don't deserve a complete pass either. First off, Damien's been dinged up almost all year and I get the impression from Andy's vague comments that he doesn't think Damien's trying quite as hard either. That's a HUGE difference from the dude that took over for Hunt last year and was running his ass off. And of course Hunt was there for 2/3 of the season. And I said I was pretty sure Darrel sucked last year - he looks about the same this year. He's just not that good.

Additionally, I'd say that teams weren't completely sure if it was Hunt or Andy that made the running game work last season so they weren't willing to sell out even after Hunt left. And Damien was just good enough to keep that question in their mind all season.

Now that question is settled - this running game is ****ing atrocious and teams are keying on it. They weren't doing that last season because they just didn't have enough time to be sure.

There are pretty substantial differences, IMO. Cutting Hunt remains one of the dumber things this franchise has done in the last 5 years or so and it could hurt us. A lot.
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Chiefsplanet- WHY ARE ALL THESE RUNNING BACKS SHITTY?
also, Chiefsplanet-WHAT'S WRONG WITH MAHOMES AND THE PASSING GAME?

It's the ****ing offensive line, guys. IT'S THE OFFENSIVE LINE.

All the games Fisher missed and we had ****ing Cam Erving at LT. The revolving door at LG. The huge step down from Morse to Reiter at center. LDT is not horrible, but certainly not a plus. Schwartz is your ONE GOOD LINEMAN THAT HAS BEEN THERE ALL YEAR.
Was it you or KC that said Andy won't ever overhaul his entire IOL over in the draft thread? There's a loud contingent of people over there who wouldn't mind turning over everything from G to G on that OL. I simply don't see how things can get worse there for trying. That group is as bad as you'll see.

Yes, the IOL sucks hard. I know that. Anyone with eyes knows that.

But the RBs suck as well. Also hard. There's nothing to prevent both things from being true.
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