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Old 08-02-2005, 02:43 PM  
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Plane off runway and on fire in Toronto, Canada...

Air France jet.

Not looking good for possible survivors. Thusfar, they are blaming weather.
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Old 08-02-2005, 03:53 PM   #106
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If it ain't Boeing, I ain't going.

In all honesty, all aircraft have their quirks. 737s had a nasty tendency to have rudder issues a while back.
What's good for Boeing is good for America. Still, it's the avionics that count.
Give me Rockwell Collins over Honeywell any day.
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Old 08-02-2005, 03:53 PM   #107
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They just said that ALL passengers exited alive. Unreal!
Thank god.
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Old 08-02-2005, 03:55 PM   #108
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If it ain't Boeing, I ain't going.

In all honesty, all aircraft have their quirks. 737s had a nasty tendency to have rudder issues a while back.
And most of these planes little quirks are exacerbated by the airlines tendency to cut corners during maintenance.

I still think back to AA flight 191 out of Chicago where manufacturer specs said specifically to remove the engine and pylon in TWO PIECES and the airline use a forklift to do the whole thing in one piece.
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Old 08-02-2005, 03:56 PM   #109
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When I was in the defense industry, I worked on (more or less) plane crash analysis. My boss at the time was examining in theory a system for passenger planes where, if a crash landing was imminent, the pilot could jettison the wings. Yes, the wings. The theory was that the wings hold most or all of the fuel, so if you can dump them right as you land, you can conceivably get the fuselage past the big fuel explosion.

For some reason, management didn't like the idea from a public relations standpoint - having a wing fall off in midair didn't strike a chord with them - so it wasn't pursued heavily.
That sounds like a good idea. I wonder how durable quick release wings would be during flight though?

For a school project I invented this anchor device for trains. It takes coal trains up to a mile to stop with the brakes that have now, but if you placed a couple modified anchors along the train that would tear up the existing landscape pretty good, but should stop the train a lot faster.

Damn the management, always holding the man down.
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Old 08-02-2005, 06:07 PM   #110
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The above article narrows the causes down to either lightning strikes, bad weather, pilot error, an engine problem, a power failure, rampaging kittens, or aliens.
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Old 08-02-2005, 06:35 PM   #111
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http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/8801092/page/2/

The above article narrows the causes down to either lightning strikes, bad weather, pilot error, an engine problem, a power failure, rampaging kittens, or aliens.
I'll take aliens for $500 Alex.
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Old 08-02-2005, 06:52 PM   #112
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That sounds like a good idea. I wonder how durable quick release wings would be during flight though?

For a school project I invented this anchor device for trains. It takes coal trains up to a mile to stop with the brakes that have now, but if you placed a couple modified anchors along the train that would tear up the existing landscape pretty good, but should stop the train a lot faster.

Damn the management, always holding the man down.


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Old 08-02-2005, 06:55 PM   #113
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Thank God!
I find it very hard to believe that you actually mean that.
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Old 08-02-2005, 08:24 PM   #114
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I find it very hard to believe that you actually mean that.
Why?

Because I used the word God?

I believe in God. I don't believe in organized religion.
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Old 08-02-2005, 08:31 PM   #115
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Why?

Because I used the word God?

I believe in God. I don't believe in organized religion.
I just feel you would have been much more excited if this could have ended in someone's tragedy. Deny it all you want, you don't fool many.
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Old 08-02-2005, 08:37 PM   #116
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I just feel you would have been much more excited if this could have ended in someone's tragedy. Deny it all you want, you don't fool many.
Think what you want. The scene was horrific. It's a miracle that anyone survived let alone everyone.
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