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Old 09-22-2018, 07:05 AM  
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How Many 1st Rounders for YOU to trade Mahomes?

It's a simple question.

Looks like we have an absolute stud at QB and that's the most important position in the league. However, if 'X' team came at you as Chiefs GM and offered you 'x' future 1st round picks for Pat, what does it take for you to move him?

Everything has it's price right?
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Old 09-22-2018, 06:12 PM   #91
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I would trade my 1st born to keep Pat.
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Old 09-22-2018, 06:16 PM   #92
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I wouldn't trade him at all. There is nothing as valuable as an Uber franchise QB.


I suppose, if we drafted a QB next year and he also shows franchise QB talent i would consider trading Mahomes. It would take a lot to pry him from my cold,dead hands though. It would take three 1st round and three 2nd round picks IF we already had his replacement on the roster. All 6 picks would have to be in the next 2 years though so they would need to have picks from another team.

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Old 09-22-2018, 06:59 PM   #93
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Old 09-22-2018, 07:19 PM   #94
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Old 09-22-2018, 07:22 PM   #95
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Let's see:

Last 1st round QB - 1983.

2018 - 1983 = 35

35 1st round picks. That's my starting price.
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Old 09-22-2018, 07:28 PM   #96
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Old 09-22-2018, 07:38 PM   #97
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Old 09-22-2018, 07:48 PM   #98
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Old 09-22-2018, 07:49 PM   #99
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If we want to talk generational quarterbacks since the 1970 merger, we've got ...

Manning 1998
Favre 1991
Brees 2001 if you're generous
Brady 2000 if you assume it's not just cheating
Marino 1983
Montana 1979
Steve Young 1985
Moon 1984
Rodgers 2005

That's it. That's the list.

On the second tier, you've got...

Roethlisberger 2004
Fouts if you're really generous 1973
Kelly 1986
Aikman 1989
Cunningham 1985
Bradshaw 1970 if you really want to stretch it

So in the top two tiers you've got 15 guys over 40 years (stopping the clock at 2010 since we don't know about the newer guys yet).
2016:

1. Jared Goff, California, Rams

2. Carson Wentz, North Dakota State, Eagles

26. Paxton Lynch, Memphis, Broncos

2015:

1. Jameis Winston, Florida State, Buccaneers

2. Marcus Mariota, Oregon, Titans

2014:

3. Blake Bortles, Central Florida, Jaguars

22. Johnny Manziel, Texas A&M, Browns

32. Teddy Bridgewater, Louisville, Vikings

2013:

16. EJ Manuel, Florida State, Bills

2012:

1. Andrew Luck, Stanford, Colts

2. Robert Griffin III, Baylor, Redskins

8. Ryan Tannehill, Texas A&M, Dolphins

22. Brandon Weeden, Oklahoma State, Browns

2011:

1. Cam Newton, Auburn, Panthers

8. Jake Locker, Washington, Titans

10. Blaine Gabbert, Missouri, Jaguars

12. Christian Ponder, Florida State, Vikings

2010:

1. Sam Bradford, Oklahoma, Rams

25. Tim Tebow, Florida, Broncos

2009:

1. Matthew Stafford, Georgia, Lions

5. Mark Sanchez, USC, Jets

17. Josh Freeman, Kansas State, Buccaneers

2008:

3. Matt Ryan, Boston College, Falcons

18. Joe Flacco, Delaware, Ravens

2007:

1. JaMarcus Russell, LSU, Raiders

22. Brady Quinn, Notre Dame, Browns

2006:

3. Vince Young, Texas, Titans

10. Matt Leinart, USC, Cardinals

11. Jay Cutler, Vanderbilt, Broncos

2005:

1. Alex Smith, Utah, 49ers

24. Aaron Rodgers, Cal, Packers

25. Jason Campbell, Auburn, Redskins

2004:

1. Eli Manning, Mississippi, Chargers

4. Philip Rivers, North Carolina State, Giants

11. Ben Roethlisberger, Miami (Ohio), Steelers

22. J.P. Losman, Tulane, Bills

2003:

1. Carson Palmer, USC, Bengals

7. Byron Leftwich, Marshall, Jaguars

19. Kyle Boller, Cal, Ravens

22. Rex Grossman, Florida, Bears


2002:

1. David Carr, Fresno State, Texans

3. Joey Harrington, Oregon, Lions

32. Patrick Ramsey, Tulane, Redskins


2001:

1. Michael Vick, Virginia Tech, Falcons

2000:

18. Chad Pennington, Marshall, Jets


Since 2000-2016...there have been 2 generational QBs out 45 picks the first round.

Man, the NFL has been in a serious QB slump...So KC would need 22 1st round picks for Mahomes.
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Old 09-22-2018, 07:54 PM   #100
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Old 09-22-2018, 07:56 PM   #101
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I think Luck still has a pretty good chance to be generational.
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Old 09-22-2018, 08:25 PM   #102
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I think Luck still has a pretty good chance to be generational.
I think so too.

He has something special when surrounded by talent.
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Old 09-22-2018, 08:38 PM   #103
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Let’s say some team gave up 10 first round picks for him.

We would have to wait 10 years to claim our entire reward for him, while that team gets 10 years of Mahomes.

We would then hit on maybe half of those picks. At least one or two of the ones we hit on would have injury issues. So we’re really left with 2-4 really good players for a possible generational talent at QB.

Odds are we wouldn’t even draft the great players in consecutive years, so they wouldn’t all hit their prime at the same time. Some would be on the way up while others decline. We would never see the total benefit at once.

There’s no amount of picks you would accept.
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Old 09-22-2018, 08:40 PM   #104
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Baker Mayfield and next years 1st for Mahomes
Those 20 throws no TDs vs the Jets was enough for ya huh?
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Old 09-22-2018, 09:17 PM   #105
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If we can get a top 15 pick for him, you have to make the trade. A top 15 first round pick could be anything, even a franchise QB! You'd be as crazy as a fox not to do it.
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