New Movie

[Raiderhater]

I found a ad for a new movie that is now playing. I thought you might want to check it out. It looks like a real horror.

[url="http://rushlimbaugh.com/home/today/unbreakable.html"]rushlimbaugh.com/home/today/unbreakable.html[/url]


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[Raiderhater]

Dan, ok you lost me when you were explaning the 2 page ballot thing. As for all of these test, it's Greek to me. But that is besides the point, you have to be a complete moron to not be able to folow an arrow. Period. It is that simple. No two ways about it. The truth is that these people had no problems with the ballot until thier party, via a telemarketing company, suggested to them that they might have made a mistake.

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[Archie F. Swin]

In regards to Rush's "Undecided Voters" point . . .

First of all, Gore & Bush can take a flyin' leap . . . wouldn't bother Pants none.


Anyway, I have a hard time believing that 10,000 people, who can't make up thier minds up on Bush/Gore, would have the conviction to go to the polls just to vote for local candidates. that number seem high to me.

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[Raiderhater]

Pants, that is true, but the real point as I heard Rush explain it, is that you have all of these undecided voters who didn't make up thier minds until election day. How are we supposed to know who they voted for? Are we supposed to assume that they went Algore? Well he would have you belive that.

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[Archie F. Swin]

are you saying the voters "made up thier minds" once they found out there were some " irregularities"? . . . just need some clarification there

[Raiderhater]

No. I am saying that we have no idea of how these undecided voters ended up voting. How can we if they didn't know themselves till that day, or untill they got in the booth. But these people who are "determining the will of the voter" totaly disregard that when they are "determining the will of the voter". They don't stop and think about how these people saw the thing in both canadites. And a lot of people may have decided that they didn't like either choice, so when they got in there they decided not to vote for either of them.

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[DanT]

raiderhader,

There's lot of people who are not morons that get confused by seemingly simple tasks. Isn't Bush himself a dyslexic? That doesn't make him a complete moron (he has degrees from Yale and Harvard); it just means he doesn't process visual information the same as most people.

Here are two links from USA Today, the first concerns a small study (very comparable to a pilot test, by the way) that indicates that the ballots were confusing: [url="http://www.usatoday.com/weather/science/ballot113000.htm"]http://www.usatoday.com/weather/science/ballot113000.htm[/url]

The second shows alternative ballots--produced by professional graphics designers--that would probably have been much better. This link is nice because it explains what I meant about the problem with the two-page/single-column design, which is that people don't read English by alternating pages, line-by-line: [url="http://www.usatoday.com/news/comment/ncguest.htm"]http://www.usatoday.com/news/comment/ncguest.htm[/url]

Anyway, I'll quit beating this dead horse. I understand that the ballot seems as easy-as-pie for most people. I don't mean to seem so dense as not to get your point. [img]http://www.chiefsplanet.com/ubb/wink.gif[/img]

[Raiderhater]

Dan, do you mean to tell me that most of the people in ONE county have problems with proccessing visually? C'mon, you are a statitician, what are the chances of that? Give me a break. As for anything printed in USA Today, they are a Liberal paper that would like to see Algore win, aren't they?

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[Raiderhater]

Oh, and how do you explain the telemarketing firm calling registered Dems?

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[DanT]

raiderhader,

No other county in Florida used that butterfly ballot. It's a bizarre design that one expert from Seattle said he'd never seen used anywhere else. The Bush Campaign tried to pretend that the design was used here in Cook County, Illinois, but they were just wrong--our ballots are single-page/single-issue. It floored me when the Bush Campaign made that claim because it comes very close to what I would call an outright lie.

The telemaketing firm was already hired to make phone calls. Big campaigns always hire folks to call their likely voters who haven't shown up at the polls yet. When the Gore campaign learned about the problem with the ballot, they changed the message that the telemarketing firm read. There's no way to look read anything into the telemarketing story except that the problem with the ballots was easily discovered once they were in the field. Again, my point is that such a novel thing as a 2-page/1-issue, interleaved-choices butterfly ballot should have been pilot tested before it was approved, and that the Democrats bear a lot of responsiblity for failing to do that.

[DanT]

raiderhader,

I can't comment on the biases in the USA Today. I'm sure that whichever major multi-national that owns them (is it Gannett, still?) probably has strings tied to both major parties. I'm not one to think that big-*** corporations have some weird sympathy for liberals and our causes that makes them act contrary to their own monied interests. But then again, I don't watch the X Files or believe in UFO's, so maybe I'm just strange like that. :)

I will say that KCTitus opened my eyes to some liberal bias at CNN and I myself have been floored by some of the heavily-biased stuff I've heard falling from CBS's Dan Rather's mouth these past few weeks!

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[DanT]

Didn't I say I would quit beating this dead horse? What a bozo I am.

I just want to add that Dyslexia is a disorder in which the sufferer has problems processing language, including written language. I'd thought that George W. Bush had admitted suffering from it, but after a quick search on the Internet, I see that he has yet to do so. His brother Neil is an admitted sufferer and a lot of observers familiar with the disorder believe that President-elect Bush also has it, but he is on record as denying that he does. Also, he hasn't been tested for it. So, I was wrong in thinking that it was confirmed that he had dyslexia. I'm sorry I didn't check the facts first.

[morphius]

DanT - Dan Rather has been horrible and very bitter about this whole thing, heck I knew he was biased, but wow. I believe in UFO's, though, its the whole Alien thing I have questions about.

[DanT]

raiderhader,

By the way, thanks for the link to the Limbaugh site. The pictures of Al with the OJ gloves and the OJ hat have me chuckling [img]http://www.chiefsplanet.com/ubb/biggrin.gif[/img]

[DanT]

morphius,

Yeah--Wow! is right. He really makes sure the Dem spin comes through, doesn't he? He must be one of those Yellow-Dog Democrats that Texas used to produce bushels of. He obviously got out of that state before the Yellow-Dog Democrat Kennel got boarded up, I'll tell you that.

[DanT]

morphius,

LOL! Yeah, that good! You mind if I steal that from you--"I believe in UFOs; I just don't believe in aliens."? Classic! [img]http://www.chiefsplanet.com/ubb/smile.gif[/img]