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Old 11-12-2018, 10:14 AM  
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Kalifornia: 45-8

No shit - this is now the CA congressional delegation.

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Old 11-18-2018, 11:30 AM   #181
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So with the Cisneros win it did in fact end up 45-8.

Does 45-8 really reflect the vote breakdown in the state? Did Democrats win 84.9% of the votes as that breakdown suggests? Of course not. So how did they win 84.9% of the seats?


That's a form of gerrymandering is it not? No party should be allowed to win that big a split without coming even close to that with the popular vote. I'm sure Liberals will come on here and explain why this outcome makes sense.
California is so left leaning that a proportional allocation of house seats would still only allow for maybe a 42-11 split DNC to non-DNC.
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Old 11-18-2018, 11:38 AM   #182
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California is so left leaning that a proportional allocation of house seats would still only allow for maybe a 42-11 split DNC to non-DNC.
Not true. I just looked up the vote totals and GOP won 33.7% of the vote which proportionally would result in a 35-18 split.
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Old 11-18-2018, 11:59 AM   #183
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So with the Cisneros win it did in fact end up 45-8.

Does 45-8 really reflect the vote breakdown in the state? Did Democrats win 84.9% of the votes as that breakdown suggests? Of course not. So how did they win 84.9% of the seats?


That's a form of gerrymandering is it not? No party should be allowed to win that big a split without coming even close to that with the popular vote. I'm sure Liberals will come on here and explain why this outcome makes sense.
If the population was equally distributed in each district in the state, every representative would be Democrat.

If you want to advocate how representatives should be allocated by percentage of the popular vote, I'd be all for that. Of course you'd end up with Democrat control over the House, Senate and the president.
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Old 11-18-2018, 12:00 PM   #184
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So with the Cisneros win it did in fact end up 45-8.

Does 45-8 really reflect the vote breakdown in the state? Did Democrats win 84.9% of the votes as that breakdown suggests? Of course not. So how did they win 84.9% of the seats?


That's a form of gerrymandering is it not? No party should be allowed to win that big a split without coming even close to that with the popular vote. I'm sure Liberals will come on here and explain why this outcome makes sense.
It's because of Wyoming man!! Don't you realize that Wyoming is destroying this nation!!! California would be a utopia if not for Wyoming

I read somewhere that Wyoming is subliminally forcing Californians to poop on their sidewalks!! It's crazy man. Those Wyoming people wield too much damn power man. What can we do to curb the power hungry Wyoming?

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Old 11-21-2018, 11:09 AM   #185
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BTW, you can thank the Orange Moron for this. Orange County, where I grew up, once solid red, has been flipped. Do you think all the wealthy people in Newport Beach, South Orange County, etc., moved out and were replaced by illegals? The fact is, all but the dregs were embarrassed by that idiot.

Our local assemblyman won his seat back from the Republican incumbent by posting signs all over town that said “Trump / Hadley” (the Pub).

Of course, California was already turning blue, but you can thank Trump for speeding up the process and driving moderates away from the Republican Party.
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Old 11-21-2018, 11:31 AM   #186
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BTW, you can thank the Orange Moron for this. Orange County, where I grew up, once solid red, has been flipped. Do you think all the wealthy people in Newport Beach, South Orange County, etc., moved out and were replaced by illegals? The fact is, all but the dregs were embarrassed by that idiot.

Our local assemblyman won his seat back from the Republican incumbent by posting signs all over town that said “Trump / Hadley” (the Pub).

Of course, California was already turning blue, but you can thank Trump for speeding up the process and driving moderates away from the Republican Party.
Well duh. You do realize California was once a red state. Voted red as recently as daddy Bush if memory serves. California has been trending blue every since. Blaming Trump for flipping a California county blue is a stretch to say the very least. We here in Missouri just kicked out a long standing Democratic Senator. Would you say that is because Missouri is trending red or is the orange buffoon to blame/credit? Or I guess it could be both, but I doubt it is.
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Old 11-21-2018, 11:38 AM   #187
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Well duh. You do realize California was once a red state. Voted red as recently as daddy Bush if memory serves. California has been trending blue every since. Blaming Trump for flipping a California county blue is a stretch to say the very least. We here in Missouri just kicked out a long standing Democratic Senator. Would you say that is because Missouri is trending red or is the orange buffoon to blame/credit? Or I guess it could be both, but I doubt it is.
Never been to Missouri. Not really in a position to comment about that.

Orange County, however, has not voted blue since the Great Depression. There is more at work than just Trump, but he is definitely a huge factor.

The Pub Assemblyman I mentioned was outraged by the Trump / Hadley signs, and demanded that the Dem take them down, saying he was not aligned with Trump.
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Old 11-21-2018, 11:53 AM   #188
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Never been to Missouri. Not really in a position to comment about that.

Orange County, however, has not voted blue since the Great Depression. There is more at work than just Trump, but he is definitely a huge factor.

The Pub Assemblyman I mentioned was outraged by the Trump / Hadley signs, and demanded that the Dem take them down, saying he was not aligned with Trump.
Dammit man, you're no fun! This post is logical. Was hoping you would go on a radical lefty rant about how the orange buffoon stole the election from our darling princess

I also will say I know little of Orange County but I would assume they are following the national trend of urban=D and rural=R. Is their some reason Orange County should be seen as not following that trend until Trump? Serious question.
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Old 11-21-2018, 12:02 PM   #189
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Dammit man, you're no fun! This post is logical. Was hoping you would go on a radical lefty rant about how the orange buffoon stole the election from our darling princess

I also will say I know little of Orange County but I would assume they are following the national trend of urban=D and rural=R. Is their some reason Orange County should be seen as not following that trend until Trump? Serious question.
Orange County is suburban, and very wealthy, especially Newport Beach, Laguna Beach, and South Orange County. They have been Republican for about 80 years or so. But they were traditional Republicans. Reagan Republicans, Nixon Republicans. I.e., not off the deep end Trump Republicans.
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Arnold Schwarzenegger killed the Republicans in CA.


While everyone was focused on Florida, Democrats were “finding votes” in OC. Some republicans won on election night by 8-12% and have now lost.

Some of the numbers do not add up here. Unfortunately nobody will bat an eye and it won’t be looked at, investigated etc.
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Arnold Schwarzenegger killed the Republicans in CA.


While everyone was focused on Florida, Democrats were “finding votes” in OC. Some republicans won on election night by 8-12% and have now lost.

Some of the numbers do not add up here. Unfortunately nobody will bat an eye and it won’t be looked at, investigated etc.
Ah yes, election fraud.

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Ah yes, election fraud.

Just like there wasn’t any going on in Broward County!

Terrific Election supervisor over there.
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Old 11-21-2018, 12:42 PM   #193
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BTW, you can thank the Orange Moron for this. Orange County, where I grew up, once solid red, has been flipped. Do you think all the wealthy people in Newport Beach, South Orange County, etc., moved out and were replaced by illegals?
Yes, we do, and the stats bear that out. OC has massively diversified and that's why it's now blue. End. Of. Discussion. I will link you to the data showing the % of foreign-born Americans now comprising OC.

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Of course, California was already turning blue, but you can thank Trump for speeding up the process and driving moderates away from the Republican Party.
He won the CA primary with 74% of the vote, Kasich got like 10%. So if Trump "drove away moderates" (something you offer no proof of), it was CA Repub primary voters who helped him.
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Do you think all the wealthy people in Newport Beach, South Orange County, etc., moved out and were replaced by illegals?
Have you considered who you're asking? Of course they believe that!

Stop asking dumb questions Niner.
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Have you considered who you're asking? Of course they believe that!

Stop asking dumb questions Niner.


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