Avengers: Infinity War

[keg in kc]

(Thinking we've abused the Civil War thread enough...)

[MarkDavis'Haircut]

In light of all this information, I am just glad that Marvel comics weren't given the license to publish Mickey Mouse and other Disney comic lines. IDW isn't perfect but they are not pushing SJW storylines.

[Direckshun]

Originally Posted by banecat

Hate. Just general hate. Who cares? It's an elitist industry. It needs to have proper ratios now? She needs to take herself to her safe space and stay in there.

And the sexual references are due to her being hot. Like you wouldn't wanna see her filled out like an application. And with her bitching her appearance seems to be all that she has to offer

You seem nice.

[banecat]

Originally Posted by Direckshun

You seem nice.

It's like I said in another thread, the left pushes and pushes, but then they're surprised and bothered by the pushing back. The lessons, training, and schools can be very expensive. That's why it's an elitist industry. A nepotistic industry too. The change needs to be systematic. Posting concern on social media can help a little, but it'll never nearly be enough

[Jamie]

Originally Posted by Rausch

Marvel doesn't get the MCU money. Marvel comics are losing their ass. For years now. They don't sell 1/5th of what they did 10 years ago.

Marvel comics hasn't gone out of business because Disney owns them and they're pushing what Disney wants them to.

This is so far from accurate I can only assume it's completely pulled out of your ass.

You can see here Marvel's total number of comics sold has generally fallen between 2 and 4 million since the industry recovered from the speculator crash in the late 90s. That's a fairly large variance, but nothing you could characterize as an 80% drop. Plus this isn't taking into account trades and digital, which are bigger pieces of the pie than they were 10 years ago.

One conclusion you can draw from this data is that comics are at point near inelastic demand. So when faced with that the ways you can make more money are to either A) raise prices (which they have) or B) make an attempt to appeal to people outside the sphere you are operating in. So you get the push for diversity, not as some kind of SJW plot, but as an attempt to tap into a trend to sell comics. I think it didn't work because there weren't genuinely diverse points of view, it was mostly the same white male creators pandering. And before someone gets their dick in a knot, that's not a criticism of white male creators, it's a criticism of pandering.

[Direckshun]

Originally Posted by banecat

It's like I said in another thread, the left pushes and pushes, but then they're surprised and bothered by the pushing back.

Brie Larson is a person, arguing for greater female representation in the film industry.

The fact that you think that justifies any sexism whatsoever is wrong. But you do you, cupcake.

[cabletech94]

so can we go back to talking about infinity war now, please?

it rocked!! can't wait until next spring!!

[Bowser]

Originally Posted by Jamie

This is so far from accurate I can only assume it's completely pulled out of your ass.

You can see here Marvel's total number of comics sold has generally fallen between 2 and 4 million since the industry recovered from the speculator crash in the late 90s. That's a fairly large variance, but nothing you could characterize as an 80% drop. Plus this isn't taking into account trades and digital, which are bigger pieces of the pie than they were 10 years ago.

One conclusion you can draw from this data is that comics are at point near inelastic demand. So when faced with that the ways you can make more money are to either A) raise prices (which they have) or B) make an attempt to appeal to people outside the sphere you are operating in. So you get the push for diversity, not as some kind of SJW plot, but as an attempt to tap into a trend to sell comics. I think it didn't work because there weren't genuinely diverse points of view, it was mostly the same white male creators pandering. And before someone gets their dick in a knot, that's not a criticism of white male creators, it's a criticism of pandering.

Good post.

My issue with the comics was their decision to take established characters and flip their genders, just because. I have no issue with however many superpowered female heroes or villains they want to throw out there, as long as they are well written and are their own characters. I don't need a woman to become Thor just to prove women are "worthy" - have Thor fight alongside his female counterpart. How hard is that? And the problem is that Marvel did it to nearly all their frontline "name" heroes. Complete shit. Just come up with a new stable of female badasses, the Marvel Universe is certainly big enough to hold them.

[Bowser]

Originally Posted by cabletech94

so can we go back to talking about infinity war now, please?

it rocked!! can't wait until next spring!!

I am very much looking forward to Captain Marvel vs. Thanos, not going to lie.

I wonder if Nebula will steal the gauntlet from Thanos as she did in the comics, as well....

[Fish]

Originally Posted by banecat

It's like I said in another thread, the left pushes and pushes, but then they're surprised and bothered by the pushing back.

Part of the problem is that you tend to take the extreme hyperbole actions of a few and assign it to "The left" in an ignorant generalization. Like your current DC thread equating some loony website called "verysmartbrothas" as representing "The left." Pretty dumb.

[Direckshun]

Originally Posted by Bowser

I am very much looking forward to Captain Marvel vs. Thanos, not going to lie.

I wonder if Nebula will steal the gauntlet from Thanos as she did in the comics, as well....

They're certainly setting that up, I think.

[Direckshun]

Originally Posted by Fish

Part of the problem is that you tend to take the extreme hyperbole actions of a few and assign it to "The left" in an ignorant generalization. Like your current DC thread equating some loony website called "verysmartbrothas" as representing "The left." Pretty dumb.

Also: the sexism.

[banecat]

Originally Posted by Direckshun

Brie Larson is a person, arguing for greater female representation in the film industry.

The fact that you think that justifies any sexism whatsoever is wrong. But you do you, cupcake.

What's the answer? You people are so great at pointing out problems, some real and some not. How to fix this one?

[banecat]

Originally Posted by Fish

Part of the problem is that you tend to take the extreme hyperbole actions of a few and assign it to "The left" in an ignorant generalization. Like your current DC thread equating some loony website called "verysmartbrothas" as representing "The left." Pretty dumb.

They are both examples of the true left. Not moderate liberals, or moderate conservatives, or centrists. Not the Obama or Hillary wing of the American Left, but the Bernie or PETA wing of the American Left

[Mr. Plow]

Sorry to get in the way of the DC pissing match, but thought this was a good place to drop this.

https://www.thewrap.com/disney-wins-...llion-fox-bid/

Walt Disney Co. has won approval from the U.S. Department of Justice in its $71.3 billion acquisition of Fox’s film and TV entertainment assets, the company announced Wednesday.

Per the terms of the approval, Disney will be required to divest Fox’s 22 regional sports networks it was set to gain in the acquisition.

“We are pleased that the DOJ concluded that, with the exception of the proposed acquisition of the Fox Sports Regional Networks, the transaction will not harm competition, and that we were able to resolve the limited potential concerns to position us to move forward with this exciting opportunity that will enable us to create even more compelling consumer experiences,” the company said in a statement.

[DaFace]

Originally Posted by Mr. Plow

Sorry to get in the way of the DC pissing match, but thought this was a good place to drop this.

https://www.thewrap.com/disney-wins-...llion-fox-bid/

While giving Disney even more power is a bit unsettling, I am curious to see if they ever try to bring the X-Men or Deadpool into the MCU somehow. I can't really picture how it would work well, but those guys get paid a lot more than I do.