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Old 03-22-2013, 09:26 AM  
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Old 03-24-2013, 12:11 PM   #916
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Cherry picking = realistic?

OK.
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Old 03-24-2013, 12:17 PM   #917
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Alex Smith is 3-13 all time when throwing 35 or more times per game, which what a normal Andy Reid team does every game. That is a pretty damn good sample size to say he will blow ass when forced to throw all the time.
Actually, it's 3 wins to 16 losses.

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Old 03-24-2013, 12:18 PM   #918
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Cherry picking = realistic?

OK.
Judging Alex Smith early his career is beyond stupid.

He had very little talent and no coaching to help him at all.

He has both of those here on our team.
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Old 03-24-2013, 12:23 PM   #919
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I prefer to use his stats his last 2 years since:

A. He has a QB coach who knows WTF he's doing and he'll have that here.

B. He has pretty strong talent on his team and he'll also have that here.

In those 2 years, Alex Smith was 2-2 throwing 35 or more times.

He was also 9-3 in those 2 years when threw the ball 30 or more times.

Pretty interesting when we take a look at things in a realistic perspective huh?
Of course you do. Thats called cherry picking. Unless you can transplant that entire team to Kansas City your not going to see the numbers he posted the last 2 years. This current Chiefs team is closer to the earlier 49er teams Alex played on rather than the later. Your delusional if you expect #s while along for the ride with a SB caliber team while now on a .500/ sub .500 team from a game managing type QB.

Thats the mistake the Chiefs made with Matt Cassel.
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Old 03-24-2013, 12:23 PM   #920
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Judging Alex Smith early his career is beyond stupid.

He had very little talent and no coaching to help him at all.

He has both of those here on our team.
This. Which is why we should bring in Jamarcus Russel. He had little talent and coaching around him and still put up better numbers than Alex Smith early in his career.
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Old 03-24-2013, 12:24 PM   #921
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Judging Alex Smith early his career is beyond stupid.

He had very little talent and no coaching to help him at all.

He has both of those here on our team.
As I've said before:

He was a QB who threw for less than 200 yards a game and less than 20 TDs a year with AND without Harbaugh.
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Old 03-24-2013, 12:29 PM   #922
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I bet Clayton said Rich Gannon would flame out when he went to Oakland because he wasn't a 1st round QB and did nothing special beforehand.

I bet he also thought Trent Green would suck when he came here from St. Louis because he was also not a 1st round QB and did nothing special beforehand.

Or that Eli Manning could never win a SB because he never even completed 60% of his passes and was an INT machine before 2008.

Or that Joe Flacco would never win a SB because he was just a game manager on a talented team.
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Old 03-24-2013, 12:37 PM   #923
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Now Alex Smith is not a franchise QB, and it would take odd/rare type events (2000 Ravens epic D, playing a Rex Grossman led team, etc) for him to be at the helm of a SB win because hes just not on that level, but would it be worth it if he led the team to a playoff victory/s down the road putting an end to the loosing streak, which is the longest in NFL history? I do think hes capable of that. With more improvements made all around I think he could provide the stability to achieve similar success last seen around here by Marty's teams.
That's what I mean't when I said that bringing in Alex Smith is the first step toward mediocrity.

Marty's teams were well coached teams that won a lot of games.
But at the end of the day, they were mediocre teams that could compete with, but not win against championship calibre teams in the playoffs.

Martyocrity lives again.
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Old 03-24-2013, 12:47 PM   #924
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I bet Clayton said Rich Gannon would flame out when he went to Oakland because he wasn't a 1st round QB and did nothing special beforehand.

I bet he also thought Trent Green would suck when he came here from St. Louis because he was also not a 1st round QB and did nothing special beforehand.

Or that Eli Manning could never win a SB because he never even completed 60% of his passes and was an INT machine before 2008.

Or that Joe Flacco would never win a SB because he was just a game manager on a talented team.
I never said any of those things.

In fact, I was a huge Trent Green fan, and was on Flacco's bandwagon before most people here.

Alex Smith is like none of those guys, and never will be.

Now go **** yourself.
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What is your plan?
My plan?

Risk failure in the pursuit of excellence.

That means drafting the best QB now.

From where I sit, that is Geno Smith.
But that could be Matt Barkley, if I had the access to these guys that NFL people have.
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Old 03-24-2013, 12:56 PM   #926
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I never said any of those things.

In fact, I was a huge Trent Green fan, and was on Flacco's bandwagon before most people here.

Alex Smith is like none of those guys, and never will be.

Now go **** yourself.
It fits perfectly with your crying narrative that you have beaten to death over and over again.

You're just too pussy to own up to it.
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Old 03-24-2013, 01:01 PM   #927
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It fits perfectly with your crying narrative that you have beaten to death over and over again.

You're just too pussy to own up to it.
Wrong.

I was actually a huge Matt Cassel fan when we made the trade.

I've learned my lesson the hard way.

**** Alex Smith.
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Old 03-24-2013, 01:05 PM   #928
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Judging Alex Smith early his career is beyond stupid.

He had very little talent and no coaching to help him at all.

He has both of those here on our team.
What? He had a team good enough to take a 3,000 yard QB to the division championship game, and then next year take a guy with less than a half season of starts into a competitive Super Bowl calibre team.

Colin Kaepernick and Andrew Luck are two players with a fraction of the experience Smith had, yet play a hundred times better than Smith has his entire career. We know what Smith is. He is a better version of Matt Cassel. I just hope that the Chiefs view him as a stopgap. If they do, I'm fine. If they think he's truly their long-term guy, then it's going to be a long 10 years.
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Old 03-24-2013, 01:14 PM   #929
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This. Which is why we should bring in Jamarcus Russel. He had little talent and coaching around him and still put up better numbers than Alex Smith early in his career.
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I prefer to use his stats his last 2 years since:

A. He has a QB coach who knows WTF he's doing and he'll have that here.

B. He has pretty strong talent on his team and he'll also have that here.

In those 2 years, Alex Smith was 2-2 throwing 35 or more times.

He was also 9-3 in those 2 years when threw the ball 30 or more times.

Pretty interesting when we take a look at things in a realistic perspective huh?
He also missed 6 regular season games in those 2 years. Which is a very good consecutive 2 years for him
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