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Old 01-22-2013, 12:33 PM  
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Old 01-25-2013, 01:31 PM   #586
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So if you're with the 'experts' then you think that the talent isn't there to justify #1 but it's ok to draft a qb at #4? Please explain that to me. Our need at quarterback trumps our need at any other position...regardless of best player available. When you need 3 quarterbacks before 2013 starts, you take the best one in the draft. Don't feed me this bullshit that the talent level doesn't justify the #1 pick. It does when you have a colossal hole at a certain position. If you've got a hole in your heart, the doctor doesn't cut you open and swap out your kidneys...they give you a new heart. Someone else has to die first (*****, Cassel, Crennel), but they get you that ****ing heart.
I don't think it's OK and I wouldn't take one until the second half of the first if it were up to me. Preferably in the 20's...

Probably where we differ is inour view of the talent level of the roster. I don't see as much talent as most do. I feel we are picking #1 for a reason and it's because there is a whole lot of suck. I understand we have a bunch of pro bowlers but there are some serious gaps and we will be losing some pretty experienced free agents.

Our #1 need is talent and leadership imo.

Our #2 need is a QB.

Ideally, we'd like to get both together but, imo that won't happen at number one.
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Old 01-25-2013, 01:33 PM   #587
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I don't think it's OK and I wouldn't take one until the second half of the first if it were up to me. Preferably in the 20's...

Probably where we differ is inour view of the talent level of the roster. I don't see as much talent as most do. I feel we are picking #1 for a reason and it's because there is a whole lot of suck. I understand we have a bunch of pro bowlers but there are some serious gaps and we will be losing some pretty experienced free agents.

Our #1 need is talent and leadership imo.

Our #2 need is a QB.

Ideally, we'd like to get both together but, imo, that won't happen at number one.
Yeah you're a mouth breathing moron. This building a team then getting your qb is full of patriot way bullshit
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Old 01-25-2013, 01:34 PM   #588
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I'm with you man and this is a very rational take. We aren't taking a QB number one imo. The talent isn't there. Who gives a shit what the "mob" thinks.
its not the "mob" only that wants geno and can see how good he is. you cant see it because there is a guys bellybutton blocking your view
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Old 01-25-2013, 01:35 PM   #589
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I don't think it's OK and I wouldn't take one until the second half of the first if it were up to me. Preferably in the 20's...

Probably where we differ is inour view of the talent level of the roster. I don't see as much talent as most do. I feel we are picking #1 for a reason and it's because there is a whole lot of suck. I understand we have a bunch of pro bowlers but there are some serious gaps and we will be losing some pretty experienced free agents.

Our #1 need is talent and leadership imo.

Our #2 need is a QB.

Ideally, we'd like to get both together but, imo that won't happen at number one.
assumptions. which experienced free agents are already gone?
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Old 01-25-2013, 01:36 PM   #590
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Old 01-25-2013, 01:36 PM   #591
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I don't think it's OK and I wouldn't take one until the second half of the first if it were up to me. Preferably in the 20's...

Probably where we differ is inour view of the talent level of the roster. I don't see as much talent as most do. I feel we are picking #1 for a reason and it's because there is a whole lot of suck. I understand we have a bunch of pro bowlers but there are some serious gaps and we will be losing some pretty experienced free agents.

Our #1 need is talent and leadership imo.

Our #2 need is a QB.

Ideally, we'd like to get both together but, imo that won't happen at number one.

But you're more likely to get that drafting lower when it is exceptionally probable that 2 or more of the QB prospects you covet are gone?


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Old 01-25-2013, 01:36 PM   #592
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Old 01-25-2013, 01:36 PM   #593
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I'm with you man and this is a very rational take. We aren't taking a QB number one imo. The talent isn't there. Who gives a shit what the "mob" thinks.
The talent isn't there?

Where was RG3 and Tannehill rated a yr ago from today?

Yes, I know neither of them went #1, but they went top 10, and NO ONE had them going top 10 a yr ago.
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its not the "mob" only that wants geno and can see how good he is. you cant see it because there is a guys bellybutton blocking your view
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Old 01-25-2013, 01:46 PM   #595
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I don't think it's OK and I wouldn't take one until the second half of the first if it were up to me. Preferably in the 20's...

Probably where we differ is inour view of the talent level of the roster. I don't see as much talent as most do. I feel we are picking #1 for a reason and it's because there is a whole lot of suck. I understand we have a bunch of pro bowlers but there are some serious gaps and we will be losing some pretty experienced free agents.

Our #1 need is talent and leadership imo.

Our #2 need is a QB.

Ideally, we'd like to get both together but, imo that won't happen at number one.
This is a shitload of ****.

This team needs a quarterback first and foremost. All these "draft gurus" can stand around giving each other dutch rudders all day long saying how no quarterback is worthy of the top pick, and neither you nor anyone else that knows this team should care what they say. Quarterback is the ONLY way for this team to go. Every other position can be addressed later, and I mean EVERY position.

When April gets here, and the combine is done along with all the pro day workouts of these guys, one of the QB's will have distinguished himself as worthy of being a top pick.
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Old 01-25-2013, 01:48 PM   #596
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I don't think it's OK and I wouldn't take one until the second half of the first if it were up to me. Preferably in the 20's...
We don't pick in the 20's, though, do we?

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Our #1 need is talent and leadership imo.

Our #2 need is a QB.

Ideally, we'd like to get both together but, imo that won't happen at number one.
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I don't think it's OK and I wouldn't take one until the second half of the first if it were up to me. Preferably in the 20's...

Probably where we differ is inour view of the talent level of the roster. I don't see as much talent as most do. I feel we are picking #1 for a reason and it's because there is a whole lot of suck. I understand we have a bunch of pro bowlers but there are some serious gaps and we will be losing some pretty experienced free agents.

Our #1 need is talent and leadership imo.

Our #2 need is a QB.

Ideally, we'd like to get both together but, imo that won't happen at number one.
See, we were getting along so well. You said some really nice and smart things about my mock draft. I thought your takes on BPA and this QB class were dumb as hell, but I was interested in looking past it all, simply because you'd be on board with a QB once we actually drafted the guy at #1. And that's all that matters.

But then you posted this ****ing drivel.

"Our #1 need is talent and leadership."

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**** you. Go kill yourself. I hate you.
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I don't think it's OK and I wouldn't take one until the second half of the first if it were up to me. Preferably in the 20's...

Probably where we differ is inour view of the talent level of the roster. I don't see as much talent as most do. I feel we are picking #1 for a reason and it's because there is a whole lot of suck. I understand we have a bunch of pro bowlers but there are some serious gaps and we will be losing some pretty experienced free agents.

Our #1 need is talent and leadership imo.

Our #2 need is a QB.

Ideally, we'd like to get both together but, imo that won't happen at number one.
There is a metric ****ton of stupid in this post.
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I don't think it's OK and I wouldn't take one until the second half of the first if it were up to me. Preferably in the 20's...

Probably where we differ is inour view of the talent level of the roster. I don't see as much talent as most do. I feel we are picking #1 for a reason and it's because there is a whole lot of suck. I understand we have a bunch of pro bowlers but there are some serious gaps and we will be losing some pretty experienced free agents.

Our #1 need is talent and leadership imo.

Our #2 need is a QB.

Ideally, we'd like to get both together but, imo that won't happen at number one.
I see where you're coming from but you're just wrong. You can have all the talent/leadership in the world but the bottom line is that in today's game, quarterback trumps all. If you're not getting solid play out of your quarterback, the line doesn't block as well, the receivers don't run routes as hard or block as well, the running backs deal with a loaded box from the defense, and your own defense is on the field too much to be remotely successful. You're not seeing the fact that when your quarterback sucks, it depreciates the value of the entire team and handcuffs it's players ability to make plays and use their talent to it's full extent.

We need a quarterback...the best one in the draft. Is that Geno? I don't know...but we damn sure arent going to get the best in the 2nd round. It's just not going to happen. The top 3-4 quarterbacks in this draft have potential as NFL caliber starters...after that, there's a drop-off. We need to address the position man. Your approach has gotten us nowhere since Todd Blackledge.
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I see where you're coming from but you're just wrong. You can have all the talent/leadership in the world but the bottom line is that in today's game, quarterback trumps all. If you're not getting solid play out of your quarterback, the line doesn't block as well, the receivers don't run routes as hard or block as well, the running backs deal with a loaded box from the defense, and your own defense is on the field too much to be remotely successful. You're not seeing the fact that when your quarterback sucks, it depreciates the value of the entire team and handcuffs it's players ability to make plays and use their talent to it's full extent.

We need a quarterback...the best one in the draft. Is that Geno? I don't know...but we damn sure arent going to get the best in the 2nd round. It's just not going to happen. The top 3-4 quarterbacks in this draft have potential as NFL caliber starters...after that, there's a drop-off. We need to address the position man. Your approach has gotten us nowhere since Todd Blackledge.
I know where you are coming from. I have been a Chiefs fan for 37 years and am almost desperate. I think you are a little desperate for a QB and you have forgotten common sense. I don't mean that in a disrespectful way and I think there are tons of Chiefs fans who feel that way.

When I look at these QBs, i don't see one capable of being a top 10 QB in the NFL. None of them rally their teams consitently. Half the games in the NFL come down to the last two minutes and the final drive. In my opinion, the level of potential between the top three or four guys isn't very different. Maybe one will grade higher over time but, the difference in potential right now is not much. That's what I am looking at. If you take a QB #1, you are probably taking a project #1 overall and that would be a big mistake. It's a mistake that would be big that it will not be made imo. Despite the rookie wage scale, people's jobs are on the line and no one is going to sign off on one of these guys imo.
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