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Old 09-11-2017, 07:15 PM   #91
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by popular request, travis kelce being a dick to kyle van noy

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Old 09-11-2017, 07:17 PM   #92
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Old 09-11-2017, 07:26 PM   #94
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Some of those plays are just a symphony of coaching awesomeness.

Soren said it today and got it right - Andy Reid will get a guy 'high school open' through pure scheme at least once or twice a game. Those times where the play design is just so damn clever that suddenly things open up.

That rocket toss for Hunt's TD run? That was off a similar concept as those shovel passes and you have to believe all those in the back of their minds held up those LBers a little. The deep throw to Hunt - anyone notice what Hill was up to? He was strictly a decoy designed to pull the safety out of the middle. Safety crashes up to spy Hill in the flats and the middle comes wide open for Hunt to fly up the seam.

Hill's TD wasn't quite so clever; that was just McCourty eating shit in cover 2 and biting on Kelce (wonder if they saw something on tape there).

Reid's just a hell of a coach, fellas. The guy is mortal and has his annoying quirks like anyone else, but the big ol' boy is always playing chess out there.

My worry is that Matt Nagy is going to be a damn good HC in this league and Reid won't want to leave before Nagy gets offered a job. I'd love to see Reid helm the ship for another 3-4 years (ideally win a title in there) then turn the reins over to Nagy.
I wouldn't mind Britt Reid taking over either, but I think the ideal situation for the future is Brett Veach as GM, Matt Nagy as HC and Britt Reid as DC.
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Old 09-12-2017, 09:20 AM   #95
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which looks like you are basically bashing him for not being Charles. However, if Hunt is more Priest than Charles, I'm perfectly fine with that.
Oh c'mon, 'bashing him'? What the hell is with folks around here thinking that anything less than fawning adulation for a player is a personal affront?

I also said this in that thread:

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As a receiver he looks pretty good.

I'd say 1,200 all-purpose yards seems about right. West will probably get a lot of passing down work to ease the burden on Hunt a bit (Spiller could also play a role there). So maybe 900 rushing yards and 300 passing yards.
In the post you quoted I said he could be a 4-4.2 YPC back as well. You know how many running backs did better than 900 yards and 4.2 yards/carry? Eleven. Oh what an asshole I must be - I said that our rookie RB would put up fringe top 10 RB numbers - clearly I think he sucks. And I said the guy can catch the ball I just didn't figure he'd get that much work in the passing game since that's also West's strength and you don't want to grind up a rookie ballcarrier.

No, I didn't think he'd set records (and seriously, who did?). But he ISN'T a fast RB. I don't think he was pulling away from Marsh and I've watched that clip, but at worst Marsh was hanging with him and that's damning with faint praise. Marsh is essentially Tamba Hali. Hunt ISN'T fast.

Styles make fights and in that very post it's clear that my concern was that we have an offense that, prior to the NE game, relied on short passing. That draws LBs in and if you don't have a guy that can jet by them, they're even less worried about crowding the box because they don't have to worry about a RB that breaks their angles and houses one.

If you have a capped passing game, a guy like Hunt who isn't a threat to house one (I'm sorry, that toss sweep was amazingly blocked; Spiller or West actually takes that all the way) can just serve to further block middle of the field. Offense is symbiotic. The passing and running games need to complement each other and since Charles went down, that has not been the case here.

Now what I couldn't have envisioned was the way Hill was able to take the cap off that defense. His deep TD and ability in the open field is what drew the safety out of the lane and made the passing TD to Hunt possible. Moreover, I didn't see Smith having the juevos to stand in there and fire that strike.

If this passing game is going to open the field up more, then Hunt's style will be great. At that point HE'S the chain mover that complements the more aggressive downfield game. But if the passing offense goes back to a dink and dunk shell, I still believe we'd have been better served with a faster back.
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Old 09-12-2017, 11:38 PM   #96
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Kelce is such a douche but he's my favorite douche.
I would agree. His stupid stuff is really clever and makes me laugh.

I also liked how the Patriots guy nudged him in the ribs at the end of the clip. I think that should have been a penalty.
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Old 09-13-2017, 12:27 AM   #97
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by popular request, travis kelce being a dick to kyle van noy

Ok, that's ****ing hilarious.
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Old 09-13-2017, 03:51 AM   #98
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Yep, while I dont always agree with DJLN... that mfer knows how to craft a post that always at least makes me think twice about my disagreement
I think watching a game or twenty with you and DJ would be Sunday done right.
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Old 09-13-2017, 03:53 AM   #99
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Kelce is a douche, but he almost makes you want to be one. LOL.
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Old 09-13-2017, 03:57 AM   #100
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Oh c'mon, 'bashing him'? What the hell is with folks around here thinking that anything less than fawning adulation for a player is a personal affront?

I also said this in that thread:



In the post you quoted I said he could be a 4-4.2 YPC back as well. You know how many running backs did better than 900 yards and 4.2 yards/carry? Eleven. Oh what an asshole I must be - I said that our rookie RB would put up fringe top 10 RB numbers - clearly I think he sucks. And I said the guy can catch the ball I just didn't figure he'd get that much work in the passing game since that's also West's strength and you don't want to grind up a rookie ballcarrier.

No, I didn't think he'd set records (and seriously, who did?). But he ISN'T a fast RB. I don't think he was pulling away from Marsh and I've watched that clip, but at worst Marsh was hanging with him and that's damning with faint praise. Marsh is essentially Tamba Hali. Hunt ISN'T fast.

Styles make fights and in that very post it's clear that my concern was that we have an offense that, prior to the NE game, relied on short passing. That draws LBs in and if you don't have a guy that can jet by them, they're even less worried about crowding the box because they don't have to worry about a RB that breaks their angles and houses one.

If you have a capped passing game, a guy like Hunt who isn't a threat to house one (I'm sorry, that toss sweep was amazingly blocked; Spiller or West actually takes that all the way) can just serve to further block middle of the field. Offense is symbiotic. The passing and running games need to complement each other and since Charles went down, that has not been the case here.

Now what I couldn't have envisioned was the way Hill was able to take the cap off that defense. His deep TD and ability in the open field is what drew the safety out of the lane and made the passing TD to Hunt possible. Moreover, I didn't see Smith having the juevos to stand in there and fire that strike.

If this passing game is going to open the field up more, then Hunt's style will be great. At that point HE'S the chain mover that complements the more aggressive downfield game. But if the passing offense goes back to a dink and dunk shell, I still believe we'd have been better served with a faster back.
He's not a blazer but he plays faster than that 40 time.
He's also at top speed in 3 steps.
He topped out faster than any player week 1.
20.66mph I think it was.
Faster than Hill got the chance to get up to, who was 2nd.
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Oh c'mon, 'bashing him'? What the hell is with folks around here thinking that anything less than fawning adulation for a player is a personal affront?
Probably the same thing that has them thinking anything other than bitter hatred and death wishes for personally crushing every dream and ambition means you're probably in an amorous, or at least sex-servile, relationship with a player.
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Old 09-13-2017, 08:51 AM   #102
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God damn. This is a really, really, really good throw. ****.

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That is literally the best throw of his career.
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Old 09-13-2017, 09:16 AM   #104
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That angle is outstanding; look at how he draws #53 down. 53 turns his hips and Smith gets him to sink by a single step. As soon as he flattens, Smith lets it go up and over him. If he's going backwards as he turns his hips rather than those 3-4 wasted steps around the 35 yard line, that throw becomes even harder. Smith took the underneath guy right out of coverage.

That's one thing I've really tried to watch for a bit this year and it actually started because of Mahomes. I started watching QB eyes more after I saw a play in camp where Mahomes all but threw a no-look pass.

In pre-season Mahomes didn't do that as much or as well but since I was watching for it I noticed how well Smith does it. When he's confident back there, he's actually pretty damn outstanding at freezing defenders with his eyes or flat out moving them. He threw a 7-8 yard pass to Harris on a scramble play to his left where he didn't have any throwing lanes so he rolled out and flat out moved a defender out of the way by looking towards the middle before turning and hitting Harris in a single movement. he changed the throwing angles and then moved a defender. There was nobody open until he created a lane.

It was a little play that nobody is going to give him much credit for because ultimately the throw didn't look that tough, but the completion and subsequent first down (and following TD drive) started with Smith just making something from nothing.

He played really REALLY well in that game.
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