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Old 01-08-2007, 08:39 AM  
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There is no reason not to let Green go

seriously. This should be a no brainer. He's 37 and his skills have drastically declined.
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Old 01-08-2007, 11:23 AM   #31
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IMO (and I know the KC offense was badass a few years running), but WR has always been a problem, but Saunders hid it well. Herm showcased the mediocrity at the position.
You can get by on the cheap with WRs if you have a pass-protect capability that allows your immobile QB to stand safely in the pocket and make his reads. We had that 2002-2005. Its gone. We need two OTs and a real FB. Get that fixed and start Huard, and we could play avaerage WRs and do good.
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Old 01-08-2007, 11:23 AM   #32
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IMO (and I know the KC offense was badass a few years running), but WR has always been a problem, but Saunders hid it well. Herm showcased the mediocrity at the position.
I agree. When the OL was giving Trent all day to throw the WR could get open and it hid the problem. Now that the OL has slipped down to Raider-like levels the WRs are being exposed. They get no seperation which results in INTs, sacks, and incompletions.

Kennison is a decent #2, Hall should never see the field on offense(or special teams), and Parker is worthless.
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Old 01-08-2007, 11:24 AM   #33
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It appeared to me that when they took the leash off of him, he drove the team right down the field. Personally, I think Green is very frustrated with the utterly reeruned offense Edwards apparently wants to use. Neanderthal football is dead.
Jesus. Thank you.

Am I crazy in saying Trent looked as good as he had all year against the Colts, particularly in the first half? He had zip on the ball, but nobody around him looked like they were up to play the game. Yeah, he threw two picks in the fourth quarter, but I think it's fair to assume he was pressing at that point, trying to make a play when nobody else wanted to.

He's the best QB we've had since Dawson, he goes through a season straight out of a nightmare and doesn't put up the gaudy stats of the last four years, and everybody wants to shitcan him. Unbelievable.
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Old 01-08-2007, 11:24 AM   #34
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Damon Huard is a free agent ........ THERE'S NOTHING TO TRADE.
Franchise him and then trade him for two first round picks. Chiefs rule!!!
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Old 01-08-2007, 11:28 AM   #35
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With an off-season of rest & a re-tooled O line, i have every faith that Trent can still play well for us in 07, beyond that not so much.

If he goes i hope we stand pat with Huard, Croyle & maybe see if Printers matures. I'm tired of "outsourcing" for QB's, lets grow some right here.

I saw Trent whip several tight spirals accurately when he played, his arm is NOT shot. The concussion cobwebs may have effected some of his touch stuff, but a full off-season of rest should handle that.

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Old 01-08-2007, 11:28 AM   #36
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Especially since he's a FA after this year.
Oh yeah. That too. I forgot about that.
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Old 01-08-2007, 11:28 AM   #37
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Franchise him and then trade him for two first round picks. Chiefs rule!!!
It's a bit tough to franchise an unrestricted free agent...
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Old 01-08-2007, 11:30 AM   #38
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With an off-season of rest & a re-tooled O line, i have every faith that Trent can still play well for us in 07, beyond that not so much.

If he goes i hope we stand pat with Huard, Croyle & maybe see if Printers matures. I'm tired of "outsourcing" for QB's, lets grow some right here.

I saw Trent whip several tight spirals accurately when he played, his arm is NOT shot. The concussion cobwebs may have effected some of his touch stuff, but a full off-season of rest should handle that.

VOTE GREEN!!!
Look how many vet QBs were benched this year in favor of young QBs: Plummer, Bledsoe, Brunnell, Warner, etc... I'm sure I'm leaving a bunch off the list. That's what we would be looking at starting TG next year at 37.
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Old 01-08-2007, 11:31 AM   #39
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Jesus. Thank you.

Am I crazy in saying Trent looked as good as he had all year against the Colts, particularly in the first half? He had zip on the ball, but nobody around him looked like they were up to play the game. Yeah, he threw two picks in the fourth quarter, but I think it's fair to assume he was pressing at that point, trying to make a play when nobody else wanted to.

He's the best QB we've had since Dawson, he goes through a season straight out of a nightmare and doesn't put up the gaudy stats of the last four years, and everybody wants to shitcan him. Unbelievable.
I don't disagree. I've been a Green supporter all along. It's just that history has shown us that a QBs skills start declining fast at his age. It's time to move on.
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Old 01-08-2007, 11:31 AM   #40
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Jesus. Thank you.

Am I crazy in saying Trent looked as good as he had all year against the Colts, particularly in the first half? He had zip on the ball, but nobody around him looked like they were up to play the game. Yeah, he threw two picks in the fourth quarter, but I think it's fair to assume he was pressing at that point, trying to make a play when nobody else wanted to.

He's the best QB we've had since Dawson, he goes through a season straight out of a nightmare and doesn't put up the gaudy stats of the last four years, and everybody wants to shitcan him. Unbelievable.
Trent only had 1 game with a passer rating over 75.5(Cleveland 127). Huard only had 2 below that number. When the backup is out perfoming the starter, he needs to be given a shot. Gannon, er, Huard should at least seen the field once to see if he made a difference.
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Old 01-08-2007, 11:33 AM   #41
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It's a bit tough to franchise an unrestricted free agent...



actually that's exactly what the franchise tag is for


every team's free agents are still attached to the team until March 1st (iirc)

each team has the choice of applying a tag to all the potiential free agents before then.


that said ......... we are not applying the franchise tag to a backup QB which would give him the average of the top 5 QB in the league.

basically tagging Huard would give him a 7 million per year raise. He's sign that is a heartbeat and give Peterson a BJ to boot.
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Old 01-08-2007, 11:34 AM   #42
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It's a bit tough to franchise an unrestricted free agent...

Why is that? Am I missing something? I though that's what the franchise tag was used for (bad grammar, I know). Guys become FAs and their current team slaps the franchise tag on them so that no other teams can sign them. Unless, of course, they want to part with a couple 1st round draft picks.
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Old 01-08-2007, 11:34 AM   #43
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It's a bit tough to franchise an unrestricted free agent...
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Trent is still a great QB. He deserves to play behind a line that can block for more than one mississippi and for a coach whose concept of an offense is somewhat more advanced than handing it off up the middle 4792 times a year.

Trent has given us some great years, great games, and great plays. He has covered for an abysmal defense for years and deserves the respect of all Chiefs fans.

So there.

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Old 01-08-2007, 11:34 AM   #45
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Why is that? Am I missing something? I though that's what the franchise tag was used for (bad grammar, I know). Guys become FAs and their current team slaps the franchise tag on them so that no other teams can sign them. Unless, of course, they want to part with a couple 1st round draft picks.
You are correct.
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