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Old 10-07-2013, 03:32 AM  
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Old 10-08-2013, 09:42 PM   #46
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This is correct. People root for Wolverine because he's popular, but power level wise, he's no match for Spider-Man on any level.
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Okay, if you really want to do this: Wolverine can't kill Spider-Man either. He's not strong enough, even with the claws. Spider-Man just took an unholy beating from Phoenix-Force powered Colossus - whose weaker 'partner' Emma Frost had just pounded Thor literally into the dirt - and not only lived to talk about it, but arranged the defeat of Colossus and his similarly-overpowered sister Magik to boot. Spider-Man is also much faster, physically stronger, and far more acrobatic than Wolverine, and he has ranged weapons, and is a legitimate scientific genius. He repeatedly surprises other A-list superheroes with the levels of his abilities in combat. In his earlier days, he was a pretty weakling nerd, but over the years they've amped up his power level so he's on par with the strongest there are. Wolverine is strong, but not that strong.
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Spiderman is faster, stronger(10X to be exact) and FAR FAR smarter.

Spiderman could easily knock him out and stuff him in a furnace.

According to everything Marvel has published. Spiderman (if willing) could kill Wolverine in a New York minute.
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They are correct 99 times out of 100 spidey should win against wolverine. But it depends more on the writer.. Wolverine could do it. Technically depending on wolverine lore, his mutant ability is not just a healing factor, it is surviving factor, he can reheal from being burnt to a crisp, dismembered, ages super slow.. Then add weaponry. But a pissed off spidey would be fun also..

You can debate either way from what writers have put into books..

the only battle that pisses me off is the batman vs. superman... Superman would own almost anyone that was not a magic user. Superman could just go orbital against batman and most others and own them them. Kryptonite, magic and humanity right now is his only real weaknesses.
Alright, thank you. Sounds like you guys listen to reason. In fairness, my friends are idiots. Their entire argument is that Spider-Man is gay and always gets beat up in the movies.

Spidery is stronger, faster, more acrobatic, more agile, has faster reaction time, the spider sense, and the webs- which according to the movies have tensile strength proportional to the cables that hold up bridges. If Spider-Man were pissed off, it wouldn't even be a close fight, IMO.

While we're on the subject though, what I find weird is how Wolverine is always portrayed. If you go by Wolverine Origins (which is one of my fave comics by the way), he was born sometime in the 1800s. He's been a member of Canadian black ops, fought in wars, spent time as a samurai, and survived the Weapon X program. The dudes had, like, 80 years of intense combat training and yet he's never mentioned as one of the best hand-to-hand combatants in the Marvel Universe. They always rank guys like Captain America and Black Panther and shit ahead of him.

On top of it all, he's always written as this mindless, berserker brawler. I mean, I understand they want to highlight his healing factor and show what a tank he is, but I've just always felt like it was doing his character a disservice.
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Old 10-08-2013, 09:46 PM   #47
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Has anybody starting reading Marvel's Infinity yet? Beach Tribe, do you have a review?
Are you nerds telling me that not a single one of you has dove into this yet?
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Old 10-09-2013, 08:08 AM   #48
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I just finished up reading the Annihilation and Annihilation: Conquest series and they were damn good. The two series serve as a nice backstory for a lot of the Guardians of the Galaxy characters (Starlord, Rocket Raccon, Drax, Gamora, Quasar, Adam Warlock, Moondragon, Groot, Ronan the Accuser, etc). It also has some of the biggest villains in Marvel in them - Annihilus, Galactus, Ultron and Thanos.
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Old 10-09-2013, 09:27 AM   #49
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Fantastic movie(s) since its a two-parter. I loved watching old, zero ****s to give Batman.
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Old 10-09-2013, 04:36 PM   #50
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Spiderman is faster, stronger(10X to be exact) and FAR FAR smarter.

Spiderman could easily knock him out and stuff him in a furnace.

According to everything Marvel has published. Spiderman (if willing) could kill Wolverine in a New York minute.
Wolvering has gone toe to toe with the Hulk on numerous occasions and other than World War Hulk has held his own.
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Old 10-09-2013, 04:44 PM   #51
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Wolvering has gone toe to toe with the Hulk on numerous occasions and other than World War Hulk has held his own.
In the GN Old Man Logan

Spoiler!
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Old 10-09-2013, 04:45 PM   #52
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I just finished up reading the Annihilation and Annihilation: Conquest series and they were damn good. The two series serve as a nice backstory for a lot of the Guardians of the Galaxy characters (Starlord, Rocket Raccon, Drax, Gamora, Quasar, Adam Warlock, Moondragon, Groot, Ronan the Accuser, etc). It also has some of the biggest villains in Marvel in them - Annihilus, Galactus, Ultron and Thanos.
Nice.

How about you Swanman, dipped your toe into the Infinity storyline yet?

I keep asking to see if it's worth getting into just on the name comics alone, or if I'm going to have to pick up all the offshoot storylines as well. DC did that with Blackest Night, and I found it annoying.
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Old 10-09-2013, 04:57 PM   #53
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In the GN Old Man Logan

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In "Future Imperfect" the Hulk killed about every hero worth mentioning...



But yeah, Wolverine is a killer...
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Old 10-09-2013, 04:59 PM   #54
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Nice.

How about you Swanman, dipped your toe into the Infinity storyline yet?

I keep asking to see if it's worth getting into just on the name comics alone, or if I'm going to have to pick up all the offshoot storylines as well. DC did that with Blackest Night, and I found it annoying.
Are you talking about the infinity gauntlet storyline?

I really didn't like how it ended (kind of a cheat) but it was good.

I liked the Inferno and AOA events better...
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Old 10-09-2013, 05:05 PM   #55
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Are you talking about the infinity gauntlet storyline?

I really didn't like how it ended (kind of a cheat) but it was good.

I liked the Inferno and AOA events better...
No, there is a current storyline titled Infinity that's out right now. Started a month or two ago. Basically it sounds kind of boring - this ancient race called The Builders are advancing through the universe destroying everything only to re-create everything, and everyone teams up to stop them. Thanos is featured in this thing, as is the Infinity Gauntlet.....

I'm a sucker for these cosmic encompassing stories. That all started with Secret Wars all those years ago. The comics Swanman was talking about sound good to me, as well.
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Old 10-09-2013, 05:11 PM   #56
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Haven't read any of Infinity yet but I'm digging Battle of the Atom. Recently I've been buying up a bunch of the omnibuses for stuff I read as a kid (X-Cutioners Song, Fatal Attractions, AoA, Knightfall, etc.) I still have all the original comics bagged and boarded, just don't want to spill beer on them or something
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Old 10-09-2013, 05:12 PM   #57
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Old 10-09-2013, 05:28 PM   #58
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Nice.

How about you Swanman, dipped your toe into the Infinity storyline yet?

I keep asking to see if it's worth getting into just on the name comics alone, or if I'm going to have to pick up all the offshoot storylines as well. DC did that with Blackest Night, and I found it annoying.
This is the checklist/reading order they've been printing in the back of each issue.



I think all the stuff on this list is necessary, but I'm not sure how it would read if you just did Infinity 1-6. There are several tie-ins not on this list, you can safely skip those.
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Old 10-09-2013, 08:43 PM   #59
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Fantastic movie(s) since its a two-parter. I loved watching old, zero ****s to give Batman.
Just finished the deluxe edition (both parts merged seamlessly).

Pretty badass how batman is in this...an older and like you said zero ****s given batman.

I was surprised it got a pg13 rating. Under the Red Hood is another good one and Year one isn't bad either as for as animated flicks. The comic and this movie were great.
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