Royals 2013 Kansas City Royals Repository Thread - Page 66

duncan_idaho · 10:01 AM

Proposed 2013 Slogan: Tigers: They're what's for dinner
Actual 2013 Slogan: Come to Play
A better, more accurate, or alternative slogan: All in, no panic, we promise.

Dayton Moore has pushed all his chips in and is riding on King/Jack suited, hoping it comes together, he gets some good luck, and he hits the nuts by the river card. There's potential, oh yes, there's potential. There's also risk.

At the midway point, Dayton is left counting on the river card. The flop and turn didn't help him, and he's looking at the Tigers holding a pair of Queens and the Indians holding a pair of 9s. His 2013 plan hasn't failed - yet - but the odds are not in his favor.

Burning questions updates below.

Burning Questions for 2013:

1) Will the improve rotation be improved enough? Does James Shields pitch like a fringe No. 1 away from Tampa Bay? Does Ervin Santana pitch to his highest upside in his walk year? Can Jeremy Guthrie build on his strong performance as a Royal in 2012? Can Wade Davis bring his new mentality- and velocity - back to the rotation?

Midseason check-in: Yes, the rotation is certainly improved enough. Shields has pitched like a fringe No. 1 and Santana is having his best season. Guthrie has horrible peripherals but has continued to perform well at his home park and eat innings on the road. Davis brought neither his kick-ass mentality or improved velocity back to the rotation and is in Luke Hochevar/Hiram Davies territory.

2) When will Luke Hochevar be shown the door?
Midseason check-in: It appears, never, at this point. Hochevar has been solid in non-leverage situations, though pretty much every time he has been used with men on base in an inning, it has been a disaster.

3) Does Hosmer bounce back?
Midseason check-in: It took some time, but Hosmer's performance from June 1 on is probably the most encouraging thing about the 2013 season so far.
4) Can Moustakas hit for a whole season like he did in the first half of 2012?
Midseason check-in: Nope. Moustakas was god-awful, then great for about 3 weeks, then god-awful again. He has been better since he started working with Brett and Grafol but still has a long way to go.
5) Who regresses?
Midseason check-in: Welp, Alicides Escobar is not a surprising name here (though Yost's stubborn insistence on hitting him second is ridiculous). Billy Butler is a surprise. He isn't having a terrible year - still contributing a lot to the offense - but he's not hitting for the average or power he has displayed over the past several years.
6) Who plays 2B?
Midseason check-in: A whole bunch of people, and not that great. Gio is at least getting a shot, though he once again is not doing much with it.
7) Can Jeff Francoeur be at least replacement level, rather than epic horrible level?
Midseason check-in: Hahahahahahahahahahaha
8) Will Dayton Moore survive to see 2014?
Midseason check-in: Outlook uncertain. Probably still around, unless the team completely tanks in the second half and he does something foolish. My guess - he sacrifices Ned Yost this offseason and gets one more shot with a new manager in 2014.
9) Will Danny Duffy come back healthy? And if he does, is he the same, better or worse?
Midseason check-in: Yes. Velocity looks the same, and it looks likely he is the same guy as before.
10) And the big one: Has KC added enough to run down the big-money Detroit Tigers?
Midseason check-in: Doesn't look like it, does it?

Strongside · 02-26-2013, 03:38 PM

Royals doing work again today. Wade Davis put in 2 scoreless in his first start and we lead the tribe, who are undefeated as well I think, 4-0.

Mizzou_8541 · 02-26-2013, 03:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Strongside

Royals doing work again today. Wade Davis put in 2 scoreless in his first start and we lead the tribe, who are undefeated as well I think, 4-0.

Wasn't or isn't John Lamb supposed to pitch today?

duncan_idaho · 02-26-2013, 04:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Mizzou_8541

Wasn't or isn't John Lamb supposed to pitch today?

He threw on SUnday, I think. Velo was still down. If he's not sitting 89-92 by the end of spring training, that's probably a warning sign.

In positive news, Noel Arguelles was sitting at 91 the other day. With his secondary stuff and control, if he can stay there, he's a prospect again.

Mizzou_8541 · 02-26-2013, 04:09 PM

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Originally Posted by duncan_idaho

He threw on SUnday, I think. Velo was still down. If he's not sitting 89-92 by the end of spring training, that's probably a warning sign.

That's disappointing. I was (and still am) holding out hope that he was going to be a pitcher we developed.

AndChiefs · 02-26-2013, 04:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Mizzou_8541

That's disappointing. I was (and still am) holding out hope that he was going to be a pitcher we developed.

Yeah I liked him a lot coming up. Hopefully it comes back.

CaliforniaChief · 02-26-2013, 04:15 PM

On a positive note, Billy hit one out today, drove in 3. Hosmer took 2 walks...Ventura strong again, and Wade Davis with 2 scoreless innings.

4-0 KC in the 7th.

CaliforniaChief · 02-26-2013, 04:16 PM

Only 2 hits surrendered thus far by:

Wade Davis
Yordano Ventura
Donnie Joseph
Justin Marks

Strongside · 02-26-2013, 04:24 PM

Feeling pretty damn good about our pitching staff so far. I know it's early, but it's looking promising.

BigCatDaddy · 02-26-2013, 04:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Strongside

Feeling pretty damn good about our pitching staff so far. I know it's early, but it's looking promising.

It's always a plus when last year ACE gets bumped down the 5th spot after bringing in 4 new guys.

CaliforniaChief · 02-26-2013, 04:53 PM

Another win for the Royals...4-1.

Meaningless? Probably. Somewhat encouraging? To me? Yes.

duncan_idaho · 02-26-2013, 05:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mizzou_8541

That's disappointing. I was (and still am) holding out hope that he was going to be a pitcher we developed.

Still plenty of time for him to get the arm strength back. They were very cautious with him, and this is his first real effort at throwing hard since the injury.

On a positive note, his command was excellent, which is usually the last thing to come back after a trip to Dr. Andrews. Three scenarios:

1) He's sacrificing a little velo for command as he works back
2) His velo isn't all the way back yet (he's about 3 mph off where he was before TJ)
3) He's not the same.

1 and 2 still give him plenty of time to get up to speed.

KChiefs1 · 02-26-2013, 05:26 PM

I need my daily Wil Myers fix.

Al Bundy · 02-26-2013, 05:30 PM

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Originally Posted by KChiefs1

I need my daily Wil Myers fix.

http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showp...&postcount=975

CaliforniaChief · 02-26-2013, 05:32 PM

Not sure if this was posted, but Crasnick did a piece on James Shields.

http://espn.go.com/blog/spring-train...-james-shields

Al Bundy · 02-26-2013, 05:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CaliforniaChief

Not sure if this was posted, but Crasnick did a piece on James Shields.

http://espn.go.com/blog/spring-train...-james-shields

If Shields suffers an arm injury, I don't know what I will do.

12-11-2012, 09:59 AM
duncan_idaho M-I-Z-Z-O-U Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Kansas City Casino cash: $1800308	2013 Kansas City Royals Repository Thread Proposed 2013 Slogan: Tigers: They're what's for dinner Actual 2013 Slogan: Come to Play A better, more accurate, or alternative slogan: All in, no panic, we promise. Dayton Moore has pushed all his chips in and is riding on King/Jack suited, hoping it comes together, he gets some good luck, and he hits the nuts by the river card. There's potential, oh yes, there's potential. There's also risk. At the midway point, Dayton is left counting on the river card. The flop and turn didn't help him, and he's looking at the Tigers holding a pair of Queens and the Indians holding a pair of 9s. His 2013 plan hasn't failed - yet - but the odds are not in his favor. Burning questions updates below. Burning Questions for 2013: 1) Will the improve rotation be improved enough? Does James Shields pitch like a fringe No. 1 away from Tampa Bay? Does Ervin Santana pitch to his highest upside in his walk year? Can Jeremy Guthrie build on his strong performance as a Royal in 2012? Can Wade Davis bring his new mentality- and velocity - back to the rotation? Midseason check-in: Yes, the rotation is certainly improved enough. Shields has pitched like a fringe No. 1 and Santana is having his best season. Guthrie has horrible peripherals but has continued to perform well at his home park and eat innings on the road. Davis brought neither his kick-ass mentality or improved velocity back to the rotation and is in Luke Hochevar/Hiram Davies territory. 2) When will Luke Hochevar be shown the door? Midseason check-in: It appears, never, at this point. Hochevar has been solid in non-leverage situations, though pretty much every time he has been used with men on base in an inning, it has been a disaster. 3) Does Hosmer bounce back? Midseason check-in: It took some time, but Hosmer's performance from June 1 on is probably the most encouraging thing about the 2013 season so far. 4) Can Moustakas hit for a whole season like he did in the first half of 2012? Midseason check-in: Nope. Moustakas was god-awful, then great for about 3 weeks, then god-awful again. He has been better since he started working with Brett and Grafol but still has a long way to go. 5) Who regresses? Midseason check-in: Welp, Alicides Escobar is not a surprising name here (though Yost's stubborn insistence on hitting him second is ridiculous). Billy Butler is a surprise. He isn't having a terrible year - still contributing a lot to the offense - but he's not hitting for the average or power he has displayed over the past several years. 6) Who plays 2B? Midseason check-in: A whole bunch of people, and not that great. Gio is at least getting a shot, though he once again is not doing much with it. 7) Can Jeff Francoeur be at least replacement level, rather than epic horrible level? Midseason check-in: Hahahahahahahahahahaha 8) Will Dayton Moore survive to see 2014? Midseason check-in: Outlook uncertain. Probably still around, unless the team completely tanks in the second half and he does something foolish. My guess - he sacrifices Ned Yost this offseason and gets one more shot with a new manager in 2014. 9) Will Danny Duffy come back healthy? And if he does, is he the same, better or worse? Midseason check-in: Yes. Velocity looks the same, and it looks likely he is the same guy as before. 10) And the big one: Has KC added enough to run down the big-money Detroit Tigers? Midseason check-in: Doesn't look like it, does it? Last edited by duncan_idaho; 07-15-2013 at 10:01 AM..
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