NFL Draft "Not "Worth" The #1 Pick??? - Page 4

Vegas_Dave · 12-29-2012, 04:55 PM

I have heard soooo many columnists and "experts" comment about the fact that there really isnt a QB "worth" the #1 pick.

What a bunch of horse crap. In the old CBA, when you had to pay the #1 pick $60-$70 million, I could understand this arguement and could agree with that. But in today's CBA, you dont dish that much out.

Andrew Luck's contract was for $22.1 million over 4 years. Yes, they had to pay $14.5 million in a signing bonus but so what?! In 2010, the Rams paid Sam Bradford a 6 year, $78 Million dollar contract with $50 Million GUARANTEED! Thats $13 million PER YEAR vs. Luck's $5.525 Million per year.

So even if Smith or whomever isnt the true Best Player available, I really dont think that in a situation like ours, where QB is such an obvious position of need, that $22 million for the #1 pick is really as big of a "reach" as we are led to believe by the experts.

To give you a comparison to Luck's #1 pick contract from 2012 at $22M, in 2010, this would be equivalent to the contract given to the #12 pick in the 2010 draft, Ryan Matthews in SD for $25.65M over 5 years.

Heck, I say draft a QB in Rounds 1, 2 & 3! Give us some frikken QB competition!

Rant end.

Pasta Little Brioni · 12-29-2012, 07:14 PM

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Originally Posted by CaliforniaChief

Why am I feeding the troll? Oh well.

Jamarcus Russell and Geno Smith have 1 thing in common: the color of their skin. Other than that, nice try.

It's the same goober that compared him to Leftwich. Mults are a no-no.

Crush · 12-29-2012, 07:15 PM

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Originally Posted by VONDOOM

I hope you guys draft Geno Smith. He has Jamarcus Russell written all over him.

Go **** yourself Knowmo.

**OnTheWarpath15** · 12-29-2012, 07:17 PM

It's not Knowmo, it's that Raiders troll Autumn Wind, AKA October Fart.

VONDIPSHIT · 12-29-2012, 07:17 PM

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Originally Posted by CaliforniaChief

Why am I feeding the troll? Oh well.

Jamarcus Russell and Geno Smith have 1 thing in common: the color of their skin. Other than that, nice try.

I can only hope that the chiefs draft him. He would be a great target for Miller and Dumervil next year.

Tombstone RJ · 12-29-2012, 07:17 PM

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Originally Posted by NJChiefsFan

Of course not. Just saying you need to make sure you do what you are supposed to. Let us worry about the normal draft class that exists this year and every other when Luck isn't involved.

fair enough.

Pasta Little Brioni · 12-29-2012, 07:18 PM

So, Fart made a mult impersonating Knowmo to bash the Chiefs...Clever girl

**OnTheWarpath15** · 12-29-2012, 07:23 PM

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Originally Posted by PGM

So, Fart made a mult impersonating Knowmo to bash the Chiefs...Clever girl

What a miserable existence one must lead to be a Raiders fan and create a Broncos fan mult to troll a message board.

Chiefs=Champions · 12-29-2012, 07:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Tombstone RJ

lol, ok losers.

Losing our way to the number one overall pick! don't **** this up for us ok!?

Pasta Little Brioni · 12-29-2012, 07:26 PM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

What a miserable existence one must lead to be a Raiders fan and create a Broncos fan mult to troll a message board.

That's our Fart

Chiefs=Champions · 12-29-2012, 07:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by VONDOOM

I can only hope that the chiefs draft him. He would be a great target for Miller and Dumervil next year.

Pryor going to complete a pass tomorrow?

Tombstone RJ · 12-29-2012, 07:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chiefs=Good

Losing our way to the number one overall pick! don't **** this up for us ok!?

ok

Pasta Little Brioni · 12-29-2012, 07:49 PM

Too bad for Miami in 08 that there was no QB worth the number one pick available. I bet they are sooo thrilled they didn't "reach" on Matt Ryan.

CoMoChief · 12-29-2012, 07:54 PM

It's not a bad year for the #1 pick?

That's a pretty dumb thing to say. I doubt there are many teams out there who'd be willing to trade for our #1 pick. It's going to be hard to trade down this season, if that's in their (Chiefs) plans. Personally I think it's going to be a 2009ish type of first round.

Personally I hope Geno tears it up at the combine and ends up being the guy we draft. I didn't like what I saw in today's bowl game. Partially due to the horrible game plan, that coaching staff should all be fired for the way they coached the game. It was bad conditions out but that's not an excuse. It can get really shitty in KC in late November and December. His throws weren't very spot on, and most of them were short throws.

Geno was kicking ass at the beginning of the season...but then kinda tailed off a little at the halfway point. WVU's defense was absolutely terrible this season. So that didn't help him in terms of wins/losses. Either way Geno's better than anything we have now at this point..but is it worth the #1 pick? I guess that depends if we get a good X's and O's coach that can make this offense score some points instead of the stooges we currently have now.

RINGLEADER · 12-29-2012, 09:37 PM

Was Russell Wilson worth a #1 pick? How about Tom Brady?

None of the people claiming to know what a player is worth before he's played in the NFL know what they're talking about.

CoMoChief · 12-29-2012, 09:39 PM

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Originally Posted by RINGLEADER

Was Russell Wilson worth a #1 pick? How about Tom Brady?

None of the people claiming to know what a player is worth before he's played in the NFL know what they're talking about.

Well here's what we all do know....if the Chiefs DON'T take a QB w/ the first overall pick....people will be marching to Arrowhead w/ pitchforks.

12-29-2012, 04:55 PM
Vegas_Dave Veteran Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Las Vegas, NV Casino cash: $2184720	"Not "Worth" The #1 Pick??? I have heard soooo many columnists and "experts" comment about the fact that there really isnt a QB "worth" the #1 pick. What a bunch of horse crap. In the old CBA, when you had to pay the #1 pick $60-$70 million, I could understand this arguement and could agree with that. But in today's CBA, you dont dish that much out. Andrew Luck's contract was for $22.1 million over 4 years. Yes, they had to pay $14.5 million in a signing bonus but so what?! In 2010, the Rams paid Sam Bradford a 6 year, $78 Million dollar contract with $50 Million GUARANTEED! Thats $13 million PER YEAR vs. Luck's $5.525 Million per year. So even if Smith or whomever isnt the true Best Player available, I really dont think that in a situation like ours, where QB is such an obvious position of need, that $22 million for the #1 pick is really as big of a "reach" as we are led to believe by the experts. To give you a comparison to Luck's #1 pick contract from 2012 at $22M, in 2010, this would be equivalent to the contract given to the #12 pick in the 2010 draft, Ryan Matthews in SD for $25.65M over 5 years. Heck, I say draft a QB in Rounds 1, 2 & 3! Give us some frikken QB competition! Rant end.
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Pasta Little Brioni Consuming CP souls Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: U.S.A. Casino cash: $4078880	Too bad for Miami in 08 that there was no QB worth the number one pick available. I bet they are sooo thrilled they didn't "reach" on Matt Ryan. __________________ **Official TFWdemB Trivia Commisioner**
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12-29-2012, 07:54 PM	#58
CoMoChief Mahomes Dynasty Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Parts Unknown Casino cash: $8052254	It's not a bad year for the #1 pick? That's a pretty dumb thing to say. I doubt there are many teams out there who'd be willing to trade for our #1 pick. It's going to be hard to trade down this season, if that's in their (Chiefs) plans. Personally I think it's going to be a 2009ish type of first round. Personally I hope Geno tears it up at the combine and ends up being the guy we draft. I didn't like what I saw in today's bowl game. Partially due to the horrible game plan, that coaching staff should all be fired for the way they coached the game. It was bad conditions out but that's not an excuse. It can get really shitty in KC in late November and December. His throws weren't very spot on, and most of them were short throws. Geno was kicking ass at the beginning of the season...but then kinda tailed off a little at the halfway point. WVU's defense was absolutely terrible this season. So that didn't help him in terms of wins/losses. Either way Geno's better than anything we have now at this point..but is it worth the #1 pick? I guess that depends if we get a good X's and O's coach that can make this offense score some points instead of the stooges we currently have now. __________________
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12-29-2012, 09:37 PM	#59
RINGLEADER In Search of a Life Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Confusion, USA Casino cash: $8620503	Was Russell Wilson worth a #1 pick? How about Tom Brady? None of the people claiming to know what a player is worth before he's played in the NFL know what they're talking about.
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