Chiefs Intriguing training camp battles that are becoming evident - Page 6

**RealSNR** · 05-11-2014, 11:00 AM

1. Quarterback
I hope Dorsey has enough sense to realize that if he needs money for the cap, Chase Daniel is sucking out 3 million this year. Bray and Murray are both unprovens, but one would hope that training camp and preseason would start to show that either Bray or Murray is good enough to be backup QB material. Were that to happen, the other guy would take the 3rd spot and hopefully kick Daniel to the curb.

2. Offensive line
What a freaking mess. We're bound to keep a shit ton of fatties on the final 53 roster, assuming we want to keep Kush around. After Fisher, Hudson, and Stephenson as the starters, it's anybody's guess. I'm going to assume Dr. Frenchie stays aboard because we wouldn't be so stupid as to try to stash him away on the practice squad, right? Besides, do you see anybody else on the team who can be trusted to play OT? I know Linkenbach does, but... eww. I don't want him the primary swing tackle.

So it's down to the guards now. Linkenbach should be depth at RG/RT; making him the starter just exacerbates our continuity problem next year when Hudson will likely walk AND we have to replace RG again. Jeff Allen will probably stick around (blech). So I really believe here that if the team wants to avoid doing something stupid like letting Dr. Frenchie get plucked off the waivers, they need to make the starting RG spot a winner take all situation between Fulton and Johnson. They may end up keeping 4 guards on the roster, with Linkenbach counting as a swing guy, but there are THREE dudes whose comfortable side is on the right. Somebody is going to have to move to LG incase Allen goes down. At this point I have no clue what their plans are for that. I would hope they'd try to move Johnson to left, but we'll see.

3. Cornerback
This is a problem, but a good problem. We're six guys deep:

Smith
Cooper
Flowers
Gaines
Owens
Parker

All of those guys are worth keeping on the roster, and we may try to stash them all away. But it's also possible that we only go with 5, in which case the low man has to either switch to safety or get raped. What's interesting about this battle is not only finding out if the staff will cut a hardy veteran like Flowers in training camp just to accelerate the eventual cap cut we'll need to perform at some point, but it's figuring out how the team will make use of each individual CB's skill during games. I wouldn't be surprised to see us dress at least 5 CBs each game for special teams reasons.

4. Safety
So no, we didn't draft a safety, but this has been an ongoing anticipated training camp battle. Here are the dudes:

Eric Berry
Husain Abdullah
Sanders Commings
Jerron McMillian
Malcolm Bronson
Daniel Sorenson

We got Berry (duh). Abdullah is penciled in as the starter at FS. It's highly unlikely that Commings goes anywhere (except possibly IR again). So there are 1-2 spots for McMillian, Bronson, and Sorenson, and one of them needs to be a SS depth spot. That means McMillian and Bronson are basically the only challengers.

I have no ****ing clue who Bronson is. He was supposedly a part of our training camp and preseason, but I never saw him play a single goddamn down in those games-- not even in the final game when every backup and their mother was playing most of the game. But in spite of all that, we kept him aboard on the practice squad all year over some other safeties who were probably more deserving, like McDougle. Perhaps Dorsey and Reid know something we don't about that guy. I'm willing to say no, but he's a wildcard. I'm also going to assume that Sorenson takes the 5th safety spot if we keep 5. So there's just a lot of question marks at safety. They're intriguing question marks, but question marks nonetheless.

OldSchool · 05-12-2014, 03:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Laz

will anyone step up at WR?

Bowe, with his off-season workout and diet program, could pleasantly surprise everyone and return to his 70 rec, 1k yard, and 7+ TDs form.

Only real shot, outside of Bowe, is AJ Jenkins, judging from his late season play and also the fact that he had enough physical talent to get drafted in the 1st round.

Avery could increase his production but that depends entirely on his ability to not be such a pussy and walk off of the field every time he falls on the ground. Judging from how he's played his entire career, there's not much hope of that happening; he also needs to improve his focus and stop dropping passes but there's not too much hope of that at this stage of his career.

I'm not holding my breath on anyone else (Kelce, Fasano, McGrath). There's a chance that De'Anthony Thomas, based on his track record as a football player, can develop enough to contribute as a situational slot guy for the first half of the season and be a threat to take the ball the the house every time that he touches it.

In58men · 05-12-2014, 04:11 PM

Jon Jennings = Beast

**Easy 6** · 05-12-2014, 04:14 PM

I'm the definite minority here, but just watch... Jenkins is going to put it together under Reid.

Harbaugh gave up on the guy after like 2 minutes, thats BS... he'll be groomed the right way here and flourish, that's my big bet for 2014.

OldSchool · 05-12-2014, 04:15 PM

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Originally Posted by scott free

I'm the definite minority here, but just watch... Jenkins is going to put it together under Reid.

Harbaugh gave up on the guy after like 2 minutes, thats BS... he'll be groomed the right way here and flourish, that's my big bet for 2014.

Everyone hopes you're right. Reid would really love some Torry Holt or Isaac Bruce types right about now.

Wallcrawler · 05-12-2014, 04:21 PM

It would be worth a shot to put Flowers at FS. He's a zone coverage guy, not a press man corner that Sutton is in love with. He's better in zones, out in space, and he's always been a good tackler.

The corner we drafted is what Sutton likes to use. Press man cover corner that has a penchant for breaking up passes.

With Flowers and Berry over the top, the corners would have some room for error.

This could be the worst idea ever as well though, perhaps Ive played too much Madden these past couple weeks.

CoMoChief · 05-12-2014, 04:23 PM

Backup QB (3rd string)
Wide Receiver (pretty much anyone outside of Bowe)
Interior Oline
Middle LB
CB reserves
FS (Abdullah vs. Commings)
KR

**Easy 6** · 05-12-2014, 04:24 PM

I really want to see Commings beat out Abdullah by virtue of sheer athletic ability... he's big and he's fast, now he just needs to show some instincts.

I love Abdullahs football IQ but the guy is flat out too slow to cover the deep middle effectively, he needs to be spelling Berry and coming in on sub-packages... period.

05-11-2014, 11:00 AM
RealSNR Special Teams ACE!!! Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Where the hell is SNR Casino cash: $2410208	Intriguing training camp battles that are becoming evident 1. Quarterback I hope Dorsey has enough sense to realize that if he needs money for the cap, Chase Daniel is sucking out 3 million this year. Bray and Murray are both unprovens, but one would hope that training camp and preseason would start to show that either Bray or Murray is good enough to be backup QB material. Were that to happen, the other guy would take the 3rd spot and hopefully kick Daniel to the curb. 2. Offensive line What a freaking mess. We're bound to keep a shit ton of fatties on the final 53 roster, assuming we want to keep Kush around. After Fisher, Hudson, and Stephenson as the starters, it's anybody's guess. I'm going to assume Dr. Frenchie stays aboard because we wouldn't be so stupid as to try to stash him away on the practice squad, right? Besides, do you see anybody else on the team who can be trusted to play OT? I know Linkenbach does, but... eww. I don't want him the primary swing tackle. So it's down to the guards now. Linkenbach should be depth at RG/RT; making him the starter just exacerbates our continuity problem next year when Hudson will likely walk AND we have to replace RG again. Jeff Allen will probably stick around (blech). So I really believe here that if the team wants to avoid doing something stupid like letting Dr. Frenchie get plucked off the waivers, they need to make the starting RG spot a winner take all situation between Fulton and Johnson. They may end up keeping 4 guards on the roster, with Linkenbach counting as a swing guy, but there are THREE dudes whose comfortable side is on the right. Somebody is going to have to move to LG incase Allen goes down. At this point I have no clue what their plans are for that. I would hope they'd try to move Johnson to left, but we'll see. 3. Cornerback This is a problem, but a good problem. We're six guys deep: Smith Cooper Flowers Gaines Owens Parker All of those guys are worth keeping on the roster, and we may try to stash them all away. But it's also possible that we only go with 5, in which case the low man has to either switch to safety or get raped. What's interesting about this battle is not only finding out if the staff will cut a hardy veteran like Flowers in training camp just to accelerate the eventual cap cut we'll need to perform at some point, but it's figuring out how the team will make use of each individual CB's skill during games. I wouldn't be surprised to see us dress at least 5 CBs each game for special teams reasons. 4. Safety So no, we didn't draft a safety, but this has been an ongoing anticipated training camp battle. Here are the dudes: Eric Berry Husain Abdullah Sanders Commings Jerron McMillian Malcolm Bronson Daniel Sorenson We got Berry (duh). Abdullah is penciled in as the starter at FS. It's highly unlikely that Commings goes anywhere (except possibly IR again). So there are 1-2 spots for McMillian, Bronson, and Sorenson, and one of them needs to be a SS depth spot. That means McMillian and Bronson are basically the only challengers. I have no ****ing clue who Bronson is. He was supposedly a part of our training camp and preseason, but I never saw him play a single goddamn down in those games-- not even in the final game when every backup and their mother was playing most of the game. But in spite of all that, we kept him aboard on the practice squad all year over some other safeties who were probably more deserving, like McDougle. Perhaps Dorsey and Reid know something we don't about that guy. I'm willing to say no, but he's a wildcard. I'm also going to assume that Sorenson takes the 5th safety spot if we keep 5. So there's just a lot of question marks at safety. They're intriguing question marks, but question marks nonetheless.
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Wallcrawler How tall is this thing? Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Ground 0 for enema of US. Casino cash: $4272912	It would be worth a shot to put Flowers at FS. He's a zone coverage guy, not a press man corner that Sutton is in love with. He's better in zones, out in space, and he's always been a good tackler. The corner we drafted is what Sutton likes to use. Press man cover corner that has a penchant for breaking up passes. With Flowers and Berry over the top, the corners would have some room for error. This could be the worst idea ever as well though, perhaps Ive played too much Madden these past couple weeks. __________________ She did not open her eyes this morning. I don't know what else to say.
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Easy 6 pie is never free Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: the drivers seat Casino cash: $3777775	I really want to see Commings beat out Abdullah by virtue of sheer athletic ability... he's big and he's fast, now he just needs to show some instincts. I love Abdullahs football IQ but the guy is flat out too slow to cover the deep middle effectively, he needs to be spelling Berry and coming in on sub-packages... period.
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