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Old 08-24-2016, 11:58 AM  
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Bosa rejects Chargers "best" offer

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Chargers proposed to Joey Bosa what they made clear is their best offer, source says. It was declined. Offer pulled. Two sides are nowhere.
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Old 08-24-2016, 09:24 PM   #211
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Lol Dorsey got a better 3-4 DE a round later.
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Old 08-24-2016, 09:31 PM   #212
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Why is there so much debate on who's to blame? If we know the facts, it should be quite obvious who's at fault. If we don't, how TF can we judge whose fault it is?
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Old 08-24-2016, 10:55 PM   #213
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So I thought the point of the rookie pay scale was to end holdouts.

Why didnt the league create a standardized contract?
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Old 08-24-2016, 11:18 PM   #214
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And none of them amounted to anything, so bad news for Bosa.
Eli Manning didn't amount to anything?
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Old 08-25-2016, 02:20 AM   #215
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Difference is that Eli was the consensus top #1 overall pick in the draft. He was a franchise quarterback prospect that could lead a team for the next 15-years. Add in Philip Rivers, who the Giants traded to the Chargers for Eli.

Archie Manning knew what he was doing – Eli has two Super Bowl rings.

From the San Diego Tribune:
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The team offered to No. 3 overall pick Joey Bosa and his representation Tuesday evening the highest cash payout in the initial calendar year for a first-round draft pick in team history, a source said Wednesday.

It was declined.

San Diego’s best offer featured an 85 percent cash payout in 2016, sources said, or $14,464,630.

In a span from July 28 to Tuesday, they moved from a 57 percent cash payout this calendar year to an 85 percent payout, sources said. In that span, Ayrault moved his position, albeit to a scale of lesser degree. He went from a 100 percent cash payout this calendar year to a number higher than 85 percent, one that allows for a seven-figure cash deferment to 2017, sources said.

With Ayrault’s refusal, the Chargers pulled their best offer, releasing a statement Wednesday.

“As a result, we will restructure our offer since Joey will be unable to contribute for the full 16 game season without the adequate time on the practice field, in the classroom, and in preseason games.”
http://www.sandiegouniontribune.com/...ontract-offer/


Bad decision that could cost a player millions of dollars.
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Old 08-25-2016, 02:40 AM   #216
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The Chargers and Bosa are basically quarreling over $2.5M out of his $17M signing bonus.

Is there some millionaire in SD who can let Bosa borrow $2.5M and then get the money back from the Chargers in 2017 when the Chargers want to give him that $2.5M?
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Old 08-25-2016, 03:22 AM   #217
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I seriously doubt that he gets cut and picked up by another team in his first contract anyway. When a team invests a top pick in a player, they are going to try everything to make the pick work out. When was the last time that a player drafted in the top 3, hell the top 15, was released in his first contract? Hell, Tyson Jackson was awful and stayed through his contract. Why? Because he was the 3rd overall pick. If he was a 5th round pick, he would've been gone by the end of season 2 at the latest. So Bosa and the Chargers are making a big deal out of something that will NEVER happen anyway.
There was also significantly more money invested in Jackson at the time.

I have no horse in this race; both are being stupid:

-Player X: "I just care about football."

-Team X: "We just want to bring a Championship to Town X."

They're all full of shit.
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Old 08-25-2016, 05:25 AM   #218
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The bolts stuck with the 3rd pick in a 2qb class. Been there.
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Old 08-25-2016, 05:47 AM   #219
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I think Bosa is holding out, hoping for a trade. SD is quite far away from competing for SB's.
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Old 08-25-2016, 07:42 AM   #220
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The Chargers and Bosa are basically quarreling over $2.5M out of his $17M signing bonus.

Is there some millionaire in SD who can let Bosa borrow $2.5M and then get the money back from the Chargers in 2017 when the Chargers want to give him that $2.5M?
I'm sure there is. Doesn't Denver participate in those kind of contract/cap shenanigans?
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Old 08-25-2016, 07:47 AM   #221
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I think BOSA's plan really is to hold out and reenter draft with the intent of playing for the Dallas Cowboys. Pure speculation
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Old 08-25-2016, 08:38 AM   #222
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I think BOSA's plan really is to hold out and reenter draft with the intent of playing for the Dallas Cowboys. Pure speculation
He will lose millions.

This year Laremy Tunsil dropped from No. 5 to No. 13 and it cost him at least $8 million.
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Old 08-25-2016, 08:40 AM   #223
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Old 08-25-2016, 08:42 AM   #224
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Difference is that Eli was the consensus top #1 overall pick in the draft. He was a franchise quarterback prospect that could lead a team for the next 15-years. Add in Philip Rivers, who the Giants traded to the Chargers for Eli.

Archie Manning knew what he was doing – Eli has two Super Bowl rings.

From the San Diego Tribune:


http://www.sandiegouniontribune.com/...ontract-offer/


Bad decision that could cost a player millions of dollars.
Bosa comes from an NFL family who happens to be pretty wealthy. He doesn't need the money. He knows he is going to get paid either by the Chargers this year or someone else next year.
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Old 08-25-2016, 09:05 AM   #225
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So I thought the point of the rookie pay scale was to end holdouts.

Why didnt the league create a standardized contract?
They did, the Chargers are not willing to pay it

What is going to be interesting is if the Chargers suck again this year and are picking in the top 5 of the 2017 NFL draft.

They have already said publicly "team precedent" doesn't allow them to offer market value contracts that top 5 picks typically get
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