2012 Kansas City Royals Repository Thread

[alnorth]

2012 Slogan: Our Time

A better, more accurate 2012 Slogan: It is Finally Next Year
(from Great Expectations)

An alternative slogan if you don't like that one: Someone has to win this crappy division
(from alnorth)

With the beginning of a new year, it is time for the 2012 version of the Royals Repository Thread. We've got Hosmer, we've got a 2011-dominating Gordon, we've got Moose, we've got hopefully a killer bullpen, we've got a stereotypical slow slugging DH, we've got easily one of the best defensive shortstops in the AL, we've got a promising catcher in Salvador Perez. Hell, we've got offense and promising prospects galore.

We do not have starting pitching.

Oh yeah, we've also got this:



Get ready for, (as of January 2012 anyway), one of the most confusing puzzles of a baseball season in recent Royals history. Will they suck? Maybe, I don't know. Will we be given a year of 0.500 baseball? Possibly, I don't know. Will they win the division and go to the playoffs for the first time in 27 years? For the first time in a long time, it could happen, I don't know. 92 losses, 92 wins, or anything in between would not surprise a lot of us.

Everything goes here except Gameday threads and really big news. If a giant story breaks, the Royals achieve some awesome milestone, or we sign/lose a highly significant player/coach/mascot/whatever, then it might also deserve its own thread. This being Chiefs Planet, please do not clutter the board with new threads about trivial Royals news or you will only annoy those who come here for just Chiefs football. If you aren't sure and its not a Gameday thread, it goes here.

What sort of stuff often goes here? SPchief explained it well, so I'll just copy that:

If you locate something of interest.. ANYTHING.. deals on apparel, best ways in/out of the stadium, giveaways, great stories from this season or from seasons gone by, rumors, trades, anything.... feel free to post it here.

[DeezNutz]

Originally Posted by Sure-Oz

Matt Garza | Starting Pitcher

Danny Knobler of CBSSports.com reports that the Royals are intent on adding a starter and have asked the Cubs about Matt Garza.
They would be acquiring him more for 2013 than this season, as the Royals probably don't realistically consider themselves contenders this year. Garza is arbitration-eligible for the final time this winter before hitting free agency. The Cubs wouldn't mind extending the right-hander but might decide to deal him if they get an offer they like. Jul 17 - 7:45 PM
Source: CBSSports.com

Also Mets are interested in Broxton


According to Adam Rubin of ESPN New York, the Mets are "paying close attention to" Jonathan Broxton.
The Kansas City closer has already drawn interest from multiple contending teams and seems highly likely to be moved at this year's July 31 trade deadline. Broxton has a 2.14 ERA and 22 saves in 26 chances this season. Jul 17 - 6:23 PM
Source: ESPN New York

Actually, the above might be even more out of necessity than foresight. We're in danger of jeopardizing ever arm in the pen at this rate. Seriously.

[Hammock Parties]

Originally Posted by Bowser

Why exactly didnt they call up Ordereasy after they DFA'd Sanchez?

i think he pitched sunday so they are probably going to wait until the day before sanchez's spot comes up in the order

[Great Expectations]

Does anybody have insight on Adalberto Mondesi? He is Raul's son and turns 17 next week. He has been playing well Idaho.

Also, Colin Rodgers is a 18 year old with a WHIP of .68 and opponents BA of .125 through limited innings in 5 starts this year playing in Burlington.

[duncan_idaho]

Originally Posted by Bowser

Why exactly didnt they call up Ordereasy after they DFA'd Sanchez?

I think several things at play...

Odorizzi is not on the same schedule as Sanchez was and had pitched recently.

Verdugo was already on the 40-man roster, Odorizzi isn't.

And it's possible they still don't think Odorizzi is ready. The guy IS having trouble working deep into games. Part of that might be mitigated with a better defense working behind him, but there's no guarantee.

I am ready for Myers to be up... yesterday. I'm not surprised that Odorizzi is a little behind. With pitchers, I think it's better long-term to leave them down too long rather than promoting too soon.

Also, Will Smith has been dominant since returning to Omaha (ERA just over 3, which is great for that league, 37: 9 K:BB, 8.76 K/9, 1.25 WHIP), especially in his last four starts. I think he probably deserves a second look, maybe even before Odorizzi. The biggest thing is that his K/9 has skyrocketed since his return, while his BB rate has decreased.

That means, to me, he's throwing BETTER strikes and commanding the ball better. It's not like the kid has overpowering stuff (even at the AAA, his stuff is just 'OK')

I'd like to see Smith get a long shot in the MLB rotation soon.

[duncan_idaho]

Originally Posted by Great Expectations

Does anybody have insight on Adalberto Mondesi? He is Raul's son and turns 17 next week. He has been playing well Idaho.

Also, Colin Rodgers is a 18 year old with a WHIP of .68 and opponents BA of .125 through limited innings in 5 starts this year playing in Burlington.

I think Mondesi has some sort of minor leg injury, but his debut up there has been very positive.

Very advanced with the bat, slick with the glove (and likely to stick at SS).

He hasn't been quite as impressive as Jurickson Profar's debut (he started in the midwest league - short season A vs. rookie ball for Mondesi), but I think it is in that same area code.

[mr. tegu]

Originally Posted by duncan_idaho

I think several things at play...

Odorizzi is not on the same schedule as Sanchez was and had pitched recently.

Verdugo was already on the 40-man roster, Odorizzi isn't.

And it's possible they still don't think Odorizzi is ready. The guy IS having trouble working deep into games. Part of that might be mitigated with a better defense working behind him, but there's no guarantee.

I am ready for Myers to be up... yesterday. I'm not surprised that Odorizzi is a little behind. With pitchers, I think it's better long-term to leave them down too long rather than promoting too soon.

Also, Will Smith has been dominant since returning to Omaha (ERA just over 3, which is great for that league, 37: 9 K:BB, 8.76 K/9, 1.25 WHIP), especially in his last four starts. I think he probably deserves a second look, maybe even before Odorizzi. The biggest thing is that his K/9 has skyrocketed since his return, while his BB rate has decreased.

That means, to me, he's throwing BETTER strikes and commanding the ball better. It's not like the kid has overpowering stuff (even at the AAA, his stuff is just 'OK')

I'd like to see Smith get a long shot in the MLB rotation soon.

I agree with this on Smith. He didn't look that bad for us anyways and I don't really think he got a fair shake in the rotation. Of course when he pitched Paulino was still around and Sanchez hadn't been rid of yet. I mean the guy made his debut against the Yankees in one of the most hitter friendly parks there is. He deserves a chance again.

[gblowfish]

Not sure if posted before, if so, sorry. Royals hands down win worst MLB trade in 2012 award from Yahoo Sports:

http://tinyurl.com/c6f8x2m

[mr. tegu]

Now that a few years have passed have we won the best trade of 2010?

[gblowfish]

Got this link from a friend of mine, this is how you "lay out" and make a catch. Watch his eyes, spectacular!

http://mlb.mlb.com/video/play.jsp?co...77153&c_id=mlb

[Fansy the Famous Bard]

Originally Posted by mr. tegu

Now that a few years have passed have we won the best trade of 2010?

We gave up a superstar.

Of the guys we have gotten in return only 1 guy has put in any meaningful time with the club, and he's just now developing into a good player.

Waaaaay too early to call it a complete win. If OrderEZ turns into a good pitcher, and Cain turns into a good CFer... do we call it a huge win for us at that point even? Getting 3 good ML players for 1 superstar? I dunno if I call that an hands down landslide deal for KC... if one of these guys turns into a superstar.. just One... then I'll feel like we got even return at the very least....

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by Zeke

We gave up a superstar.

Of the guys we have gotten in return only 1 guy has put in any meaningful time with the club, and he's just now developing into a good player.

Waaaaay too early to call it a complete win. If OrderEZ turns into a good pitcher, and Cain turns into a good CFer... do we call it a huge win for us at that point even? Getting 3 good ML players for 1 superstar? I dunno if I call that an hands down landslide deal for KC... if one of these guys turns into a superstar.. just One... then I'll feel like we got even return at the very least....

No, it is a complete win. I will take a stud, defensive SS like Escobar who I run out there everyday over a stud pitcher that I am going to run out there once every 5 days. SS's, great defensive SS's are a rare commodity. Escobar's defense alone gives us the win on that trade. The fact he is hitting over .300 makes it just that much sweeter.

[Fansy the Famous Bard]

Originally Posted by petegz28

No, it is a complete win. I will take a stud, defensive SS like Escobar who I run out there everyday over a stud pitcher that I am going to run out there once every 5 days. SS's, great defensive SS's are a rare commodity. Escobar's defense alone gives us the win on that trade. The fact he is hitting over .300 makes it just that much sweeter.

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[Deberg_1990]

Originally Posted by Zeke

We gave up a superstar.

Of the guys we have gotten in return only 1 guy has put in any meaningful time with the club, and he's just now developing into a good player.

Waaaaay too early to call it a complete win. If OrderEZ turns into a good pitcher, and Cain turns into a good CFer... do we call it a huge win for us at that point even? Getting 3 good ML players for 1 superstar? I dunno if I call that an hands down landslide deal for KC... if one of these guys turns into a superstar.. just One... then I'll feel like we got even return at the very least....

Grienke demanded to be traded right? They did about as good as they could considering the circumstances.

[Fansy the Famous Bard]

Originally Posted by petegz28

No, it is a complete win. I will take a stud, defensive SS like Escobar who I run out there everyday over a stud pitcher that I am going to run out there once every 5 days. SS's, great defensive SS's are a rare commodity. Escobar's defense alone gives us the win on that trade. The fact he is hitting over .300 makes it just that much sweeter.

For the short-sighted people that will argue just to argue... by no means am I saying it's a bad trade for the royals. I'm simply disagreeing that it's not a land-slide "win" for KC like is being made out by some people...