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Old 09-03-2012, 09:05 PM  
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What speeches are you all looking forward to/dreading?
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Old 09-06-2012, 10:18 PM   #481
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I LOVED John McCain, up until he chose Sarah Palin as his running mate.

That alone lost my vote, much like Romney's decision of Ryan over Rubio.
Rubio is a liar and a cheat who got caught.
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Old 09-06-2012, 10:19 PM   #482
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And in 2016-2020 when the Dems turn Texas blue...... Unless the republicans change....... The arithmetic doesn't look good.
Arithmetic? That's a myth.
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Old 09-06-2012, 10:19 PM   #483
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Rubio is a liar and a cheat who got caught.
Caught doing what?

Paul Ryan didn't technically cheat but he was exactly forthcoming, either.
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Old 09-06-2012, 10:20 PM   #484
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I LOVED John McCain, up until he chose Sarah Palin as his running mate.

That alone lost my vote, much like Romney's decision of Ryan over Rubio.
I preferred the John McCain of old, but I agree his choice of Palin all but sunk him in soo many ways. He was actually fairly decent at being moderate and people still liked him, then it went to hell when he chose her.

I would have preferred Rubio as well, I think the Ryan choice was pandering too much to the conservative base.
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Old 09-06-2012, 10:21 PM   #485
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I would have preferred Rubio as well, I think the Ryan choice was pandering too much to the conservative base.
If Romney had chosen Rubio, he would have opened up the eyes of Democrats and Independents in this country that believe the R's are a party of old, wealthy white guys.

Romney's nomination of Ryan did nothing to dispel this belief.
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Old 09-06-2012, 10:22 PM   #486
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Caught doing what?

Paul Ryan didn't technically cheat but he was exactly forthcoming, either.
He lied about when his family came over from Cuba. Way before Castro came to power. If he hadn't been a political star he would have went bankrupt and maybe jail for his shady business dealings. That's why he wasn't VP.
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Old 09-06-2012, 10:22 PM   #487
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Wow... I thought Obama was confused when said he has a plan to cut $4 trillion from our deficit.

Unfortunately for his credibility, we only have a $1.2 trillion deficit.

He meant the debt. Obama doesn't know the difference between debt and deficit. He could care less. His base isn't paying the bills.


USA Today: Obama essay murky on debt and deficit

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The deficit generally refers to the annual amount the United States goes over-budget, currently about $1.2 trillion. The debt refers to the total amount of money the U.S. owes other countries, currently just over $16 trillion.
http://content.usatoday.com/communit...-/1?csp=34news

What an idiot.
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Old 09-06-2012, 10:24 PM   #488
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Content-free is stupid. Obama has plenty of content, it just isn't necessarily the content that he campaigns on having.
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Old 09-06-2012, 10:25 PM   #489
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I forget who it was, but somebody in this thread said Obama's speech was more like a State of the Union speech. I think that's dead on.

Clearly the polling was telling him that people are tired of rhetoric, and are more interested in hearing WTF you plan to do.

In that case, Obama/Clinton was the one-two punch that outdid the more "hello America nice to meet you" speeches of Ryan/Romney.
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Old 09-06-2012, 10:26 PM   #490
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Wow... I thought Obama was confused when said he has a plan to cut $4 trillion from our deficit.

Unfortunately for his credibility, we only have a $1.2 trillion deficit.

He meant the debt. Obama doesn't know the difference because debt and deficit. He could care less. His base isn't paying the bills...


USA Today: Obama essay murky on debt and deficit



http://content.usatoday.com/communit...-/1?csp=34news

What an idiot.
Actually, that's untrue.

The debt refers to some overseas debt (currently $1 trillion to China and $1 trillion to Japan). The rest refers to the amount that the Federal Government owes the Treasury.

We pay about $790 billion a year in interest on the current debt owed. While it would be nice to reduce that debt to $8 trillion, it would be unwise in the minds of many economists to have "No Debt".
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Old 09-06-2012, 10:26 PM   #491
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Wow... I thought Obama was confused when said he has a plan to cut $4 trillion from our deficit.

Unfortunately for his credibility, we only have a $1.2 trillion deficit.

He meant the debt. Obama doesn't know the difference between debt and deficit. He could care less. His base isn't paying the bills.

USA Today: Obama essay murky on debt and deficit

http://content.usatoday.com/communit...-/1?csp=34news

What an idiot.
That piece is pretty murky on debt, too. We don't owe $16 trillion to other countries. Most of our debt we owe to ourselves.
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Old 09-06-2012, 10:27 PM   #492
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Actually, that's untrue.

The debt refers to some overseas debt (currently $1 trillion to China and $1 trillion to Japan). The rest refers to the amount that the Federal Government owes the Treasury.

We pay about $790 billion a year in interest on the current debt owed. While it would be nice to reduce that debt to $8 trillion, it would be unwise in the minds of many economists to have "No Debt".
Yup.
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Old 09-06-2012, 10:27 PM   #493
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If Romney had chosen Rubio, he would have opened up the eyes of Democrats and Independents in this country that believe the R's are a party of old, wealthy white guys.

Romney's nomination of Ryan did nothing to dispel this belief.
That is one way to look at it. I'm not sure why he didn't go with Rubio, but the Ryan choice was obviously to appease those that thought he wasn't conservative enough and Ryan also appeals to the Tea-Partiers (which isn't a good thing either IMO).

Even still, it nearly always comes down to the lesser of two evils and between the newest two it isn't close for me. Romney/Ryan isn't perfect, but they aren't Obama/Biden.
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Obama is leaving 47 million people behind. They are now on food stamps.

He's leaving 23 million people behind. They have no jobs.

He's leaving college graduates behind: Half of them can't find work after graduation.

He's not even sustaining the military now.

The Food Stamp President gave a Third World speech to an entitlement audience filled with those hope and change zombies again.

Give a speech to a crowd of looters about sharing the wealth and they will hoot and holler.

Talk is cheap. In November he is going to be held to account for his failures in office.
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Old 09-06-2012, 10:28 PM   #495
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