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Old 03-20-2012, 09:29 AM  
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Why Manning ruled out KC...

Apparently, teams were pre-qualified by Manning prior to any visits. When Condon was contacted by the 12 teams, he told them that the contract Manning was starting at was 5 for 90 and going from there.

Teams either had to say in or out at that point.

From there, Manning narrowed his selections.

I was told this from someone yesterday, and then today on Twitter, a great guy to follow, Andrew Brandt commented on it as well. I was leery about what I was told, but this guy confirmed it.

The Chiefs never got past the pre-qualified stage.

Seattle did, but when Manning narrowed his choices, the roster had no appeal.

Just thought I'd post this since we had a lot of discussions about why the Chiefs never got a face to face.
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Old 03-20-2012, 09:36 AM   #16
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Manning, shockingly enough, chased the money.

For all the talk about how money didn't matter and championships did, in the end it was about the money.

I should've known - it's always about the money.
Absosoutely. If it wasn't, his agent never would have discussed numbers prior to visits.
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Old 03-20-2012, 09:37 AM   #17
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5 for 90 and no assurance that Brokeneck can still throw the way he used to? IF he can, 18M/year seems reasonable, if not, that is money pissed in the wind.
Agreed, but if three sets or more of team doctors liked what they saw, that is ok with me.
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Old 03-20-2012, 09:37 AM   #18
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He would have went the SF if he cared about winning a super bowl, and if you say otherwise then you are a idiot.
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Old 03-20-2012, 09:37 AM   #19
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Silly
I agree, the Donks are very silly.

It's a C+ squad with an A+ QB. So maybe you'll have a couple division titles to show for that 90 million.
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Old 03-20-2012, 09:37 AM   #20
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If he is healthy, then why not require top dollar? I don't think it says he isn't focused on winning.
It says that his focus isn't exclusively winning, and that's what the talking heads were all trying to say.

"Manning just wants to win another championship; money doesn't matter, blah blah blah"

Not true - money very clearly mattered a great deal. Perhaps he also has legitimate championship aspirations as well, but if the first litmus test was contractual and not based on personnel, that makes it pretty clear that the championship aspirations weren't foremost on his list.

I don't fault him for it; it's his life and his livelihood. But in the end, I'm happy to move away from the narrative about how different Manning is than every other athlete. In the end, the money was clearly very important.
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Old 03-20-2012, 09:37 AM   #21
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How does the pre-qualifying time frame jibe with Clark's public statement about pursuing him?
Fan focused PR to satisfy the masses?
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Old 03-20-2012, 09:38 AM   #22
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I agree, the Donks are very silly.

It's a C+ squad with an A+ QB. So maybe you'll have a couple division titles to show for that 90 million.
more like a C- squad with a BROKEDICK qb. HAHAHAA KARMA TRAIN COMMING FOR THOS BITCHES
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Old 03-20-2012, 09:38 AM   #23
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If he is healthy, then why not require top dollar? I don't think it says he isn't focused on winning.
Yeah, I can't blame him for it. I'll be curious to see how the contract is structured in terms of protecting Denver if he DOES go down in the first game or something though.
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Old 03-20-2012, 09:38 AM   #24
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its bout the money .. plus the light-air in dungver will help his throwing .....
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Old 03-20-2012, 09:39 AM   #25
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It says that his focus isn't exclusively winning, and that's what the talking heads were all trying to say.

"Manning just wants to win another championship; money doesn't matter, blah blah blah"

Not true - money very clearly mattered a great deal. Perhaps he also has legitimate championship aspirations as well, but if the first litmus test was contractual and not based on personnel, that makes it pretty clear that the championship aspirations weren't foremost on his list.

I don't fault him for it; it's his life and his livelihood. But in the end, I'm happy to move away from the narrative about how different Manning is than every other athlete. In the end, the money was clearly very important.
Right and it was the media saying that stuff, did Manning say its all about winning and not the money?
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Old 03-20-2012, 09:39 AM   #26
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How does the pre-qualifying time frame jibe with Clark's public statement about pursuing him?
My source says Clark was told prior to that interview about the financial perameters, but it was more hopeful/wishing thinking/public excitement aspect that lead to that quote.

The Chiefs never really had a shot after their initial call to Condon. They knew that, but they also hoped he would at least visit so they could win them over.

Again, this is all passed down info, so don't take it as gospel, but it makes a ton of sense.
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Old 03-20-2012, 09:39 AM   #27
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Yeah, I can't blame him for it. I'll be curious to see how the contract is structured in terms of protecting Denver if he DOES go down in the first game or something though.
Same here and we should know soon.
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Old 03-20-2012, 09:39 AM   #28
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Right and it was the media saying that stuff, did Manning say its all about winning and not the money?
whenever its just about the money it usually turns out for the best
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Old 03-20-2012, 09:40 AM   #29
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Manning's incredibly smart.

He's using the Donks for a fat payday.
Just read your exchange with Barry on FB.

Holy Christ, that guy is ****ing reeruned.
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Old 03-20-2012, 09:40 AM   #30
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All that matters is the guaranteed money, which we don't know yet. If the Chiefs really balked at 5 for 90 without some other crazy guaranteed stipulation, then they are stupid.
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