Royals 2013 Kansas City Royals Repository Thread - Page 359

duncan_idaho · 10:01 AM

Proposed 2013 Slogan: Tigers: They're what's for dinner
Actual 2013 Slogan: Come to Play
A better, more accurate, or alternative slogan: All in, no panic, we promise.

Dayton Moore has pushed all his chips in and is riding on King/Jack suited, hoping it comes together, he gets some good luck, and he hits the nuts by the river card. There's potential, oh yes, there's potential. There's also risk.

At the midway point, Dayton is left counting on the river card. The flop and turn didn't help him, and he's looking at the Tigers holding a pair of Queens and the Indians holding a pair of 9s. His 2013 plan hasn't failed - yet - but the odds are not in his favor.

Burning questions updates below.

Burning Questions for 2013:

1) Will the improve rotation be improved enough? Does James Shields pitch like a fringe No. 1 away from Tampa Bay? Does Ervin Santana pitch to his highest upside in his walk year? Can Jeremy Guthrie build on his strong performance as a Royal in 2012? Can Wade Davis bring his new mentality- and velocity - back to the rotation?

Midseason check-in: Yes, the rotation is certainly improved enough. Shields has pitched like a fringe No. 1 and Santana is having his best season. Guthrie has horrible peripherals but has continued to perform well at his home park and eat innings on the road. Davis brought neither his kick-ass mentality or improved velocity back to the rotation and is in Luke Hochevar/Hiram Davies territory.

2) When will Luke Hochevar be shown the door?
Midseason check-in: It appears, never, at this point. Hochevar has been solid in non-leverage situations, though pretty much every time he has been used with men on base in an inning, it has been a disaster.

3) Does Hosmer bounce back?
Midseason check-in: It took some time, but Hosmer's performance from June 1 on is probably the most encouraging thing about the 2013 season so far.
4) Can Moustakas hit for a whole season like he did in the first half of 2012?
Midseason check-in: Nope. Moustakas was god-awful, then great for about 3 weeks, then god-awful again. He has been better since he started working with Brett and Grafol but still has a long way to go.
5) Who regresses?
Midseason check-in: Welp, Alicides Escobar is not a surprising name here (though Yost's stubborn insistence on hitting him second is ridiculous). Billy Butler is a surprise. He isn't having a terrible year - still contributing a lot to the offense - but he's not hitting for the average or power he has displayed over the past several years.
6) Who plays 2B?
Midseason check-in: A whole bunch of people, and not that great. Gio is at least getting a shot, though he once again is not doing much with it.
7) Can Jeff Francoeur be at least replacement level, rather than epic horrible level?
Midseason check-in: Hahahahahahahahahahaha
8) Will Dayton Moore survive to see 2014?
Midseason check-in: Outlook uncertain. Probably still around, unless the team completely tanks in the second half and he does something foolish. My guess - he sacrifices Ned Yost this offseason and gets one more shot with a new manager in 2014.
9) Will Danny Duffy come back healthy? And if he does, is he the same, better or worse?
Midseason check-in: Yes. Velocity looks the same, and it looks likely he is the same guy as before.
10) And the big one: Has KC added enough to run down the big-money Detroit Tigers?
Midseason check-in: Doesn't look like it, does it?

Pepe Silvia · 06-04-2013, 03:39 PM

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Originally Posted by WhawhaWhat

This has been posted before, but...

**chefsos** · 06-04-2013, 03:44 PM

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Originally Posted by PackerinMo

Which is why Getz and his .266 OBP is so infuriating, I suppose. Limited photo ops.

**RockChalk** · 06-04-2013, 03:51 PM

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Originally Posted by duncan_idaho

Herrera was dominant in Omaha. Was it because he fixed himself or because he's too overpowering for that level?

Guess we'll find out soon.

Five appearances, 5 IP, 6 K, no R.

Why send Coleman down though? He pitched well here in his limited duty. I'm sure he's one of the few that has options, but DFA Guitterez. Coleman belongs with the big league club

**gblowfish** · 06-04-2013, 04:02 PM

I'll bet Herrera serves ups a gopher ball in his first appearance back. That would be SO Royals....

**ChiTown** · 06-04-2013, 04:03 PM

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Originally Posted by gblowfish

I'll bet Herrera serves ups a gopher ball in his first appearance back. That would be SO Royals....

Bank on it.

**RockChalk** · 06-04-2013, 04:05 PM

So when does the Brett locker room meltdown take place? You know he's going to go off on these guys. He's not built to lose, nor accept it. I think we lose 5 of 6 in this homestand and he loses it after one of them, not that it will be reported

KCUnited · 06-04-2013, 04:08 PM

Hopefully, they have a Brett presser before every home game so I can drink every time he name drops someone. It'll be anesthetic for the visual abortion.

duncan_idaho · 06-04-2013, 04:09 PM

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Originally Posted by RockChalk

Why send Coleman down though? He pitched well here in his limited duty. I'm sure he's one of the few that has options, but DFA Guitterez. Coleman belongs with the big league club

Gutierrez is here for the same reason that Getz and Francoeur are.

Side note: Funny Scout board story... someone posted an article from a Rangers fan who suggested the Rangers move Profar in exchange for James Shields.

I, reacting in skepticism, said (paraphrasing): "of course the Royals do that deal if offered (Profar > Myers + Odorizzi + Montgomery, IMO). Hell, if necessary, throw in a half season of Ervin Santana. It will never happen."

And I was told the price was TOO high.

Still chuckling.

Infidel Goat · 06-04-2013, 04:14 PM

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Originally Posted by siberian khatru

A sane person would think: 1) Dyson's about to come back; 2) Frenchy will be DFA'd; 3) Lough will stay up as the 4th OF; 4) Berry replaces Lough in AAA.

But the Royals aren't sane.

KC Star twitter column today (I think) said Dyson is probably still two weeks away...

BlackHelicopters · 06-04-2013, 04:43 PM

A 1-5 home stand awaits. Sent down the wrong Moore.

**DeezNutz** · 06-04-2013, 04:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Infidel Goat

KC Star twitter column today (I think) said Dyson is probably still two weeks away...

Golden vagina.

**DeezNutz** · 06-04-2013, 05:01 PM

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Originally Posted by duncan_idaho

Gutierrez is here for the same reason that Getz and Francoeur are.

Side note: Funny Scout board story... someone posted an article from a Rangers fan who suggested the Rangers move Profar in exchange for James Shields.

I, reacting in skepticism, said (paraphrasing): "of course the Royals do that deal if offered (Profar > Myers + Odorizzi + Montgomery, IMO). Hell, if necessary, throw in a half season of Ervin Santana. It will never happen."

And I was told the price was TOO high.

Still chuckling.

The Royals better get a viable backup plan in place because building around Escobar isn't going to work, IMO. Far too low of an OBP to be a consistent offensive player, and he kicks the routine ball far too often.

stonedstooge · 06-04-2013, 05:48 PM

OMG. The LEGEND IN HIS OWN MIND MIKE SWEENEY IS IN THE HOUSE

BlackHelicopters · 06-04-2013, 05:49 PM

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Originally Posted by stonedstooge

OMG. The LEGEND IN HIS OWN MIND MIKE SWEENEY IS IN THE HOUSE

Does he want more money?

KCUnited · 06-04-2013, 05:50 PM

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Originally Posted by stonedstooge

OMG. The LEGEND IN HIS OWN MIND MIKE SWEENEY IS IN THE HOUSE

Your next hitting coach once Brett says **** this shit.

12-11-2012, 09:59 AM
duncan_idaho M-I-Z-Z-O-U Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Kansas City Casino cash: $1800308	2013 Kansas City Royals Repository Thread Proposed 2013 Slogan: Tigers: They're what's for dinner Actual 2013 Slogan: Come to Play A better, more accurate, or alternative slogan: All in, no panic, we promise. Dayton Moore has pushed all his chips in and is riding on King/Jack suited, hoping it comes together, he gets some good luck, and he hits the nuts by the river card. There's potential, oh yes, there's potential. There's also risk. At the midway point, Dayton is left counting on the river card. The flop and turn didn't help him, and he's looking at the Tigers holding a pair of Queens and the Indians holding a pair of 9s. His 2013 plan hasn't failed - yet - but the odds are not in his favor. Burning questions updates below. Burning Questions for 2013: 1) Will the improve rotation be improved enough? Does James Shields pitch like a fringe No. 1 away from Tampa Bay? Does Ervin Santana pitch to his highest upside in his walk year? Can Jeremy Guthrie build on his strong performance as a Royal in 2012? Can Wade Davis bring his new mentality- and velocity - back to the rotation? Midseason check-in: Yes, the rotation is certainly improved enough. Shields has pitched like a fringe No. 1 and Santana is having his best season. Guthrie has horrible peripherals but has continued to perform well at his home park and eat innings on the road. Davis brought neither his kick-ass mentality or improved velocity back to the rotation and is in Luke Hochevar/Hiram Davies territory. 2) When will Luke Hochevar be shown the door? Midseason check-in: It appears, never, at this point. Hochevar has been solid in non-leverage situations, though pretty much every time he has been used with men on base in an inning, it has been a disaster. 3) Does Hosmer bounce back? Midseason check-in: It took some time, but Hosmer's performance from June 1 on is probably the most encouraging thing about the 2013 season so far. 4) Can Moustakas hit for a whole season like he did in the first half of 2012? Midseason check-in: Nope. Moustakas was god-awful, then great for about 3 weeks, then god-awful again. He has been better since he started working with Brett and Grafol but still has a long way to go. 5) Who regresses? Midseason check-in: Welp, Alicides Escobar is not a surprising name here (though Yost's stubborn insistence on hitting him second is ridiculous). Billy Butler is a surprise. He isn't having a terrible year - still contributing a lot to the offense - but he's not hitting for the average or power he has displayed over the past several years. 6) Who plays 2B? Midseason check-in: A whole bunch of people, and not that great. Gio is at least getting a shot, though he once again is not doing much with it. 7) Can Jeff Francoeur be at least replacement level, rather than epic horrible level? Midseason check-in: Hahahahahahahahahahaha 8) Will Dayton Moore survive to see 2014? Midseason check-in: Outlook uncertain. Probably still around, unless the team completely tanks in the second half and he does something foolish. My guess - he sacrifices Ned Yost this offseason and gets one more shot with a new manager in 2014. 9) Will Danny Duffy come back healthy? And if he does, is he the same, better or worse? Midseason check-in: Yes. Velocity looks the same, and it looks likely he is the same guy as before. 10) And the big one: Has KC added enough to run down the big-money Detroit Tigers? Midseason check-in: Doesn't look like it, does it? Last edited by duncan_idaho; 07-15-2013 at 10:01 AM..
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