Royals 2013 Kansas City Royals Repository Thread - Page 414

duncan_idaho · 10:01 AM

Proposed 2013 Slogan: Tigers: They're what's for dinner
Actual 2013 Slogan: Come to Play
A better, more accurate, or alternative slogan: All in, no panic, we promise.

Dayton Moore has pushed all his chips in and is riding on King/Jack suited, hoping it comes together, he gets some good luck, and he hits the nuts by the river card. There's potential, oh yes, there's potential. There's also risk.

At the midway point, Dayton is left counting on the river card. The flop and turn didn't help him, and he's looking at the Tigers holding a pair of Queens and the Indians holding a pair of 9s. His 2013 plan hasn't failed - yet - but the odds are not in his favor.

Burning questions updates below.

Burning Questions for 2013:

1) Will the improve rotation be improved enough? Does James Shields pitch like a fringe No. 1 away from Tampa Bay? Does Ervin Santana pitch to his highest upside in his walk year? Can Jeremy Guthrie build on his strong performance as a Royal in 2012? Can Wade Davis bring his new mentality- and velocity - back to the rotation?

Midseason check-in: Yes, the rotation is certainly improved enough. Shields has pitched like a fringe No. 1 and Santana is having his best season. Guthrie has horrible peripherals but has continued to perform well at his home park and eat innings on the road. Davis brought neither his kick-ass mentality or improved velocity back to the rotation and is in Luke Hochevar/Hiram Davies territory.

2) When will Luke Hochevar be shown the door?
Midseason check-in: It appears, never, at this point. Hochevar has been solid in non-leverage situations, though pretty much every time he has been used with men on base in an inning, it has been a disaster.

3) Does Hosmer bounce back?
Midseason check-in: It took some time, but Hosmer's performance from June 1 on is probably the most encouraging thing about the 2013 season so far.
4) Can Moustakas hit for a whole season like he did in the first half of 2012?
Midseason check-in: Nope. Moustakas was god-awful, then great for about 3 weeks, then god-awful again. He has been better since he started working with Brett and Grafol but still has a long way to go.
5) Who regresses?
Midseason check-in: Welp, Alicides Escobar is not a surprising name here (though Yost's stubborn insistence on hitting him second is ridiculous). Billy Butler is a surprise. He isn't having a terrible year - still contributing a lot to the offense - but he's not hitting for the average or power he has displayed over the past several years.
6) Who plays 2B?
Midseason check-in: A whole bunch of people, and not that great. Gio is at least getting a shot, though he once again is not doing much with it.
7) Can Jeff Francoeur be at least replacement level, rather than epic horrible level?
Midseason check-in: Hahahahahahahahahahaha
8) Will Dayton Moore survive to see 2014?
Midseason check-in: Outlook uncertain. Probably still around, unless the team completely tanks in the second half and he does something foolish. My guess - he sacrifices Ned Yost this offseason and gets one more shot with a new manager in 2014.
9) Will Danny Duffy come back healthy? And if he does, is he the same, better or worse?
Midseason check-in: Yes. Velocity looks the same, and it looks likely he is the same guy as before.
10) And the big one: Has KC added enough to run down the big-money Detroit Tigers?
Midseason check-in: Doesn't look like it, does it?

Captain Obvious · 06-24-2013, 06:41 PM

Myers just scratched his ass.

Sure-Oz · 06-24-2013, 06:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DeezNutz

It was a ****ing disaster the moment it happened. Some simply tried to convince themselves otherwise.

Bottom line: Dayton Moore is dumb as ****.

DM tried to save his job hoping they'd be around .500 this year. He knew he wouldn't last after next year otherwise.

Sure-Oz · 06-24-2013, 06:44 PM

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Originally Posted by siberian khatru

OMFG

This makes me want to cry

Mama Hip Rockets · 06-24-2013, 06:49 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsandO'sfan

Myers another HR

Mama Hip Rockets · 06-24-2013, 06:51 PM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz

If Myers ends up hitting more HRs this year than anyone on the Royals roster, DM must be publicly executed.

Hasn't he already done that?

GloryDayz · 06-24-2013, 06:59 PM

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Originally Posted by unnecessary drama

this trade is going to turn out to be an embarrassment

This.. You're and asshole, but this.....

tk13 · 06-24-2013, 07:01 PM

If we kept Myers I'm fully convinced at this point he'd be up hitting .225 with 3 HRs in about 70 games, and Chen and Hochevar would be starting every 5 days with 5.50 ERAs.

GloryDayz · 06-24-2013, 07:01 PM

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Originally Posted by unnecessary drama

is a current Royal even capable of hitting a ball that far/hard?

This... You're an asshole, but this.....

Oh, and no, not Royal can hit a ball that far. Not even a golf ball...

GloryDayz · 06-24-2013, 07:03 PM

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Originally Posted by tk13

If we kept Myers I'm fully convinced at this point he'd be up hitting .225 with 3 HRs in about 70 games, and Chen and Hochevar would be starting every 5 days with 5.50 ERAs.

That.....

**cabletech94** · 06-24-2013, 07:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Sure-Oz

OMFG

This makes me want to cry

and damn you for picking him up (in the league). thought i could slide him by for a week or 2. dammit. aarrrrgh!!

**DeezNutz** · 06-24-2013, 07:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tk13

If we kept Myers I'm fully convinced at this point he'd be up hitting .225 with 3 HRs in about 70 games, and Chen and Hochevar would be starting every 5 days with 5.50 ERAs.

I'm convinced that he'd be .300/.385/.490 with 10 HRs, and the two pitchers above would look pretty similar to Davis.

Prison Bitch · 06-24-2013, 07:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Sure-Oz

DM tried to save his job hoping they'd be around .500 this year. He knew he wouldn't last after next year otherwise.

No, he was trying to win games. He picked up two guys who are on pace to net out 7 wins for him this year. Which is exactly what he hoped for. But e couldn't predict the Cold Corner would be so wretched, or the 2 vets he counted on to produce would be crap.

I'm not a Dayton fan but I feel a bit for him that those 4 hitters killed his plan. Had they done squat we'd be over .500 and legitimately in the wild card race. They let him down.

Sure-Oz · 06-24-2013, 07:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cabletech94

and damn you for picking him up (in the league). thought i could slide him by for a week or 2. dammit. aarrrrgh!!

I def am stacked at OF incase of injury

**DeezNutz** · 06-24-2013, 07:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Prison Bitch

No, he was trying to win games. He picked up two guys who are on pace to net out 7 wins for him this year. Which is exactly what he hoped for. But e couldn't predict the Cold Corner would be so wretched, or the 2 vets he counted on to produce would be crap.

I'm not a Dayton fan but I feel a bit for him that those 4 hitters killed his plan. Had they done squat we'd be over .500 and legitimately in the wild card race. They let him down.

Bullshit.

Everyone, save DM, knew that Frenchy was a negative WAR player. If Myers lived up to potential, his value + the absence of Frenchy was = to acquiring Shields + Davis.

The trade was a ****ing joke, made by a GM who is an embarrassment.

**SAUTO** · 06-24-2013, 07:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DeezNutz

It was a ****ing disaster the moment it happened. Some simply tried to convince themselves otherwise.

Bottom line: Dayton Moore is dumb as ****.

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duncan_idaho M-I-Z-Z-O-U Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Kansas City Casino cash: $1800308	2013 Kansas City Royals Repository Thread Proposed 2013 Slogan: Tigers: They're what's for dinner Actual 2013 Slogan: Come to Play A better, more accurate, or alternative slogan: All in, no panic, we promise. Dayton Moore has pushed all his chips in and is riding on King/Jack suited, hoping it comes together, he gets some good luck, and he hits the nuts by the river card. There's potential, oh yes, there's potential. There's also risk. At the midway point, Dayton is left counting on the river card. The flop and turn didn't help him, and he's looking at the Tigers holding a pair of Queens and the Indians holding a pair of 9s. His 2013 plan hasn't failed - yet - but the odds are not in his favor. Burning questions updates below. Burning Questions for 2013: 1) Will the improve rotation be improved enough? Does James Shields pitch like a fringe No. 1 away from Tampa Bay? Does Ervin Santana pitch to his highest upside in his walk year? Can Jeremy Guthrie build on his strong performance as a Royal in 2012? Can Wade Davis bring his new mentality- and velocity - back to the rotation? Midseason check-in: Yes, the rotation is certainly improved enough. Shields has pitched like a fringe No. 1 and Santana is having his best season. Guthrie has horrible peripherals but has continued to perform well at his home park and eat innings on the road. Davis brought neither his kick-ass mentality or improved velocity back to the rotation and is in Luke Hochevar/Hiram Davies territory. 2) When will Luke Hochevar be shown the door? Midseason check-in: It appears, never, at this point. Hochevar has been solid in non-leverage situations, though pretty much every time he has been used with men on base in an inning, it has been a disaster. 3) Does Hosmer bounce back? Midseason check-in: It took some time, but Hosmer's performance from June 1 on is probably the most encouraging thing about the 2013 season so far. 4) Can Moustakas hit for a whole season like he did in the first half of 2012? Midseason check-in: Nope. Moustakas was god-awful, then great for about 3 weeks, then god-awful again. He has been better since he started working with Brett and Grafol but still has a long way to go. 5) Who regresses? Midseason check-in: Welp, Alicides Escobar is not a surprising name here (though Yost's stubborn insistence on hitting him second is ridiculous). Billy Butler is a surprise. He isn't having a terrible year - still contributing a lot to the offense - but he's not hitting for the average or power he has displayed over the past several years. 6) Who plays 2B? Midseason check-in: A whole bunch of people, and not that great. Gio is at least getting a shot, though he once again is not doing much with it. 7) Can Jeff Francoeur be at least replacement level, rather than epic horrible level? Midseason check-in: Hahahahahahahahahahaha 8) Will Dayton Moore survive to see 2014? Midseason check-in: Outlook uncertain. Probably still around, unless the team completely tanks in the second half and he does something foolish. My guess - he sacrifices Ned Yost this offseason and gets one more shot with a new manager in 2014. 9) Will Danny Duffy come back healthy? And if he does, is he the same, better or worse? Midseason check-in: Yes. Velocity looks the same, and it looks likely he is the same guy as before. 10) And the big one: Has KC added enough to run down the big-money Detroit Tigers? Midseason check-in: Doesn't look like it, does it? Last edited by duncan_idaho; 07-15-2013 at 10:01 AM..
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