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http://www.taxfoundation.org/news/show/250.html The top 1% of taxpayers pay almost 38% of the taxes in this country The top 5% of taxpayers pay almost 58.7% of the taxes in this country The top 10% of taxpayers pay almost 45.7% of the taxes in this country The top 25% of taxpayers pay almost 67.3% of the taxes in this country The overall comparison shows: The top 50% of taxpayers pay almost 97.3% of the taxes in this country The bottom 50% of taxpayers pay 2.7% of the taxes in this country The answer to our problems is not raising taxes, it's cutting out the BS spending the government has always done. If you are a democrat this isn't a personal slur, but of late when we have democrats in office - President, House and Senate - things get out of hand. The republicans weren't much better but with the current changes I hope we see some change to cut the government spending. The government should only budget what taxes they expect to get in and no more. Quote:
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Something you left out that should be a concern for all Americans. The UN. It has become a joke and is funded by more Tax dollars than ever. It's time that we just told them to take their sorry asses somewhere else. When they leave we need to drop out of the world police association. Last edited by Norman Einstein; 12-02-2010 at 08:07 AM.. |
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It's amazing that it comes as a surprise to you that we make mistakes in combat. Where the hell have you been? Bad things happen in war and a lot of relatively innocent bystanders often get caught in the crossfire. The US is probably better than anyone is or ever has been at avoiding that kind of collateral damage but it's still going to happen. While there's probably a tendency toward overclassification, the reason that ordinary and boring gets classified is because you can sometimes piece together several seemingly mundane bits of information and build a picture that gives you insight into something that is actually worth keeping secret. People who disclose national defense secrets should be dealt with harshly. The wikileaks leaker should probably be executed unless a plea bargain to life without parole can benefit us in some way (by getting the traitor to give us information, for example). Assange is a piece of shit who is an enemy of our country. If we have a chance to sideline him, we should definitely do it. Quote:
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You need to get out of the house and stop looking at whitehouse.org so much.
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I suppose if you need a hobby you can strive for better occasionally for the guy sitting next to you. You should probably have the courtesy, though, to ask him what he'd like you to strive for on his behalf rather than just assume he wants what you want for him.
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I despair that we don't have liberals in a constant state of despair, that would mean this country was a lot more on track.
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Ridiculous except for #3. If you think cutting defense and medicare are the only ways to cut down on debt and deficit it is no wonder you are all up in arms. Have you considered cutting back on government spending, eliminating government welfare, needless programs and the albatross that is the obama health plan? Directing that money instead towards *gasp* paying down our debt?
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I read your whole OP, and it's well thought out. It articulates the liberal position on those issues, especially #1. But, and it's been adressed by others already, there is zero effect on you regarding how much the "rich" get taxed. The problem, IMO, is this perception that the government is the only way problems are solved (regardless of the FACT that the government causes more problems than it solves) and therefore they need tons of money to make everything alright. They already tax the piss out of the "rich", the ones who invest and create wealth and jobs in this country. It's like you think that rich people are just born that way or that at some point they become evil or uncaring once they reach a certain income level, an arbitrary number arrived at by some weird accounting system that makes no sense.
When half of the country pays 0 income tax, and 25 percent pays most of the tax, how is that possibly fair? How many rich people contribute large amounts of their money to charity? How many invest in businesses and create jobs? Way more than the ones who don't pay a dime in taxes, I can tell you that.
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John Q Taxpayer can manage to create a budget based on an income that is vulnerable to fluctuation and even total cessation due to say layoff, injury or death but our government cannot create a balanced budget with a fixed, virtually uninterrupted and massive income. But if John Q Taxpayer spends more than he earns his credit is ruined, assets seized and possibly even thrown in jail while when government spends more than it earns it increases the taxes on John Q Taxpayer, borrows money from a foreign communist country to the point where it may never be able to be paid back while bringing the entire countries future, defense, liberty and sovereignty to the brink of disaster. "Do as I say, not as I do" is the philosophy of tyrants. Then there's block-headed, imbecile, simpletons who aren't fit to run a lemonade stand let alone make decisions or have input or an opinion that effect an entire country who want to give this entity more power instead of taking it away. Just thought I'd get that off my chest. |
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