Life NFT:Neighbors and Pit Bull - what's expected?

RufusRJones · 05-07-2009, 12:11 AM

Hi All -

Sorry to be writing this here, but I'm having a hard time finding a good audience for this question and I know there are many here that have some strong opinions.

My neighbors just bought a catahoula/pit bull mix puppy. It's really cute, but I know this is going to grow into a very strong dog that is going to have some specific needs. My area is very suburban with lots of families and small children. It's generally considered a nice area (at least for the All-Star Wrestling Ring). I have a toddler.

My neighbors are not what I would call responsible people. The typically take down their Christmas wreathe around July. They've had a hole in their roof for for almost six months that they just got fixed. They don't mow their lawn often. Generally they don't take care of stuff. This is where my concern lies. Not with with dog or breed necessarily, but with the people.

My wife and I asked them if was going to be an inside dog, and they responded that they were thinking of getting an "invisible fence" - my experience is that these are certainly not guaranteed to keep the dog in their yard. It also doesn't have any guarantee if keeping a child or another dog out of their yard.

Our county mandates that any dog either be on leash or sufficiently restrained by a fence...am I being unreasonable to expect my neighbor's to comply with this request? And for you pit owners...are they acting irresponsibly?

**DeezNutz** · 05-07-2009, 12:14 AM

Antifreeze.

Problem solved.

Just Passin' By · 05-07-2009, 12:14 AM

The key here is to have various small children walk over and beat the dog daily while it's still a puppy. That'll pay off in the long run.

**Bugeater** · 05-07-2009, 12:14 AM

Yeah....that has trouble written all over it. Not sure what you're really going to be able to do about it though.

Fritz88 · 05-07-2009, 12:21 AM

Too early to take a serious action.

Hopefully some guys in here will be able to offer more help.

Good luck.

Just Passin' By · 05-07-2009, 12:23 AM

Ok, call the county and get a ruling from them on whether or not an invisible fence is considered sufficient.

RufusRJones · 05-07-2009, 12:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Just Passin' By

Ok, call the county and get a ruling from them on whether or not an invisible fence is considered sufficient.

It's definitely not sufficient according to the ordinances that are published. I'm not sure if they'll actually enforce it...but...we'll see.

My state also has extreme laws on owner responsibility for dogs. If you're dog kills someone...second degree murder charges for the owner.

**DeezNutz** · 05-07-2009, 12:31 AM

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Originally Posted by RufusRJones

It's definitely not sufficient according to the ordinances that are published. I'm not sure if they'll actually enforce it...but...we'll see.

My state also has extreme laws on owner responsibility for dogs. If you're dog kills someone...second degree murder charges for the owner.

They should.

After-the-fact consequences don't sound promising to me.

kcxiv · 05-07-2009, 12:32 AM

My sister has a pit bull. He's awesome. When its time for the meter dude to come, they bring him here for the day, and i dont hardly ever see him, but i feel safe enough to go out there and play with him. This is me hardly ever see'ing him. Just once in a while when i go to her house and what not.

Any dog can snap imo. Its just how you treat them i guess. I have seen regular mutts go nuts. Like you said though, they arent to trustworthy. I may go over there and talk to them about it. Or just keep an eye on how they treat him.

Valiant · 05-07-2009, 12:35 AM

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Originally Posted by RufusRJones

Hi All -

Sorry to be writing this here, but I'm having a hard time finding a good audience for this question and I know there are many here that have some strong opinions.

My neighbors just bought a catahoula/pit bull mix puppy. It's really cute, but I know this is going to grow into a very strong dog that is going to have some specific needs. My area is very suburban with lots of families and small children. It's generally considered a nice area (at least for the All-Star Wrestling Ring). I have a toddler.

My neighbors are not what I would call responsible people. The typically take down their Christmas wreathe around July. They've had a hole in their roof for for almost six months that they just got fixed. They don't mow their lawn often. Generally they don't take care of stuff. This is where my concern lies. Not with with dog or breed necessarily, but with the people.

My wife and I asked them if was going to be an inside dog, and they responded that they were thinking of getting an "invisible fence" - my experience is that these are certainly not guaranteed to keep the dog in their yard. It also doesn't have any guarantee if keeping a child or another dog out of their yard.

Our county mandates that any dog either be on leash or sufficiently restrained by a fence...am I being unreasonable to expect my neighbor's to comply with this request? And for you pit owners...are they acting irresponsibly?

The dog would be fine if the owners were responsible and caring.. And an electric fence only works so much, if the dog hits it full speed it will get zapped but then be out of range I believe.. They could have made these better, so I am not sure on that..

If you really don't care if they like you are vice versa get the HOA on them, if you have one..

Again, it is not the dog that will be the problem.. It will be the people not taking care of the dog and making it aggressive or neglecting it..

Valiant · 05-07-2009, 12:36 AM

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Originally Posted by RufusRJones

It's definitely not sufficient according to the ordinances that are published. I'm not sure if they'll actually enforce it...but...we'll see.

My state also has extreme laws on owner responsibility for dogs. If you're dog kills someone...second degree murder charges for the owner.

Oh, then just keep calling on them until the city forces them to get a fence or they get rid of the dog.. Or the dog gets picked up in the yard because of no fence or leash..

Or get a calling group with neighbors that agree with you.. It sounds harsh, but I would not trust people with a dog like that if they are like how you described them..

KCChiefsMan · 05-07-2009, 02:17 AM

RufusRJones · 05-07-2009, 02:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Valiant

The dog would be fine if the owners were responsible and caring.. And an electric fence only works so much, if the dog hits it full speed it will get zapped but then be out of range I believe.. They could have made these better, so I am not sure on that..

If you really don't care if they like you are vice versa get the HOA on them, if you have one..

Again, it is not the dog that will be the problem.. It will be the people not taking care of the dog and making it aggressive or neglecting it..

Exactly. I just want to be clear. I'm not a pit hater. I don't mind pits...but the folks I know that have been successful owners have been very discipled and aware of the potential issues with the breed. They love their dogs and they understand the power of the breed and take appropriate precautions.

These folks on the other hand...they don't seem to be able to handle the basic responsibilities of home ownership.

Pioli Zombie · 05-07-2009, 05:40 AM

**** the dog early so he knows you are in charge
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Mile High Mania · 05-07-2009, 05:40 AM

Based on the picture you painted...

You're neighbors are less than desirable, borderline redneck (apologies to those responsible rednecks out there) and the notion that they'll be responsible with the dog is a joke. If I had kids, I'd do what I needed to do in order to keep them safe.

I'm guessing you don't have an HOA... you might place a call to the city/county and ask about the specific dog ownership laws (in regards to fences, leashes, etc).

I wouldn't take a chance and wait. Again, this has nothing to do with the type of dog, but the type of owner. I'd rather come off as a prick early on in this type of situation rather than give them the benefit of the doubt when my better judgement says not to... then regret it later. Hell, how bad of shape is the house in? You could really be a jerk and call the city/county and say "Dunno what's going on next door, but the city inspector should check it out".

It's a cruel world, sometimes you gotta do what you gotta do to protect your own.

05-07-2009, 12:11 AM
RufusRJones Starter Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: All Star Wrestling Ring Casino cash: $10004900	NFT:Neighbors and Pit Bull - what's expected? Hi All - Sorry to be writing this here, but I'm having a hard time finding a good audience for this question and I know there are many here that have some strong opinions. My neighbors just bought a catahoula/pit bull mix puppy. It's really cute, but I know this is going to grow into a very strong dog that is going to have some specific needs. My area is very suburban with lots of families and small children. It's generally considered a nice area (at least for the All-Star Wrestling Ring). I have a toddler. My neighbors are not what I would call responsible people. The typically take down their Christmas wreathe around July. They've had a hole in their roof for for almost six months that they just got fixed. They don't mow their lawn often. Generally they don't take care of stuff. This is where my concern lies. Not with with dog or breed necessarily, but with the people. My wife and I asked them if was going to be an inside dog, and they responded that they were thinking of getting an "invisible fence" - my experience is that these are certainly not guaranteed to keep the dog in their yard. It also doesn't have any guarantee if keeping a child or another dog out of their yard. Our county mandates that any dog either be on leash or sufficiently restrained by a fence...am I being unreasonable to expect my neighbor's to comply with this request? And for you pit owners...are they acting irresponsibly?
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05-07-2009, 12:14 AM	#3
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05-07-2009, 12:23 AM	#6
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05-07-2009, 12:32 AM	#9
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05-07-2009, 05:40 AM	#15
Mile High Mania #triggering Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Tejas Casino cash: $3707229	Based on the picture you painted... You're neighbors are less than desirable, borderline redneck (apologies to those responsible rednecks out there) and the notion that they'll be responsible with the dog is a joke. If I had kids, I'd do what I needed to do in order to keep them safe. I'm guessing you don't have an HOA... you might place a call to the city/county and ask about the specific dog ownership laws (in regards to fences, leashes, etc). I wouldn't take a chance and wait. Again, this has nothing to do with the type of dog, but the type of owner. I'd rather come off as a prick early on in this type of situation rather than give them the benefit of the doubt when my better judgement says not to... then regret it later. Hell, how bad of shape is the house in? You could really be a jerk and call the city/county and say "Dunno what's going on next door, but the city inspector should check it out". It's a cruel world, sometimes you gotta do what you gotta do to protect your own. __________________
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