Chiefs Dontari Poe-Every Snap against 2-11 Tulane - Page 3

DallasChief · 04-27-2012, 10:32 AM

All 65 snaps against 2-11 Conference USA Team Tulane last season:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AZxD_uV5kyk

kcpasco · 04-27-2012, 12:02 PM

Go to 2:22
That is the highlight play of the whole film

Blick · 04-27-2012, 12:10 PM

I like that spin move.

Chiefnj2 · 04-27-2012, 12:13 PM

At the very least there are three Tulane lineman who can tell their kids and grandkids that they outplayed and neutralized a first round NFL draft pick.

**wazu** · 04-27-2012, 12:13 PM

Based on watching this, I think we should be targeting nothing but Tulane O-lineman for the rest of the draft.

kcpasco · 04-27-2012, 12:17 PM

Except he was doubled almost every play.

This was a high risk high reward type pick at our biggest need on defense. I wish people chill out a little bit.

**OnTheWarpath15** · 04-27-2012, 12:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chiefnj2

At the very least there are three Tulane lineman who can tell their kids and grandkids that they outplayed and neutralized a first round NFL draft pick.

Quote:

Originally Posted by wazu

Based on watching this, I think we should be targeting nothing but Tulane O-lineman for the rest of the draft.

CrazyHorse · 04-27-2012, 12:19 PM

Very disruptive in the run game. They couldn't move him out of the run lane in most of the plays they ran at him. He has more than one pass rush move though he was used primarily as a plugger.

Those were the positives I saw. There were negatives as well. But a far cry from what I read in this thread. He was moved around a lot. That usually means thier best lineman. In this case, they almost never rushed more than 4. Which told me they were struggling on the back end. Thats why you didnt see but one sack and that was a bad snap.

I saw some good things in there. But then, I know what to look for, and what to expect from a 3-4 nose. A bunch of tackles and sacks arent one of them.

Blick · 04-27-2012, 12:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CrazyHorse

Very disruptive in the run game. They couldn't move him out of the run lane in most of the plays they ran at him. He has more than one pass rush move though he was used primarily as a plugger.

Those were the positives I saw. There were negatives as well. But a far cry from what I read in this thread. He was moved around a lot. That usually means thier best lineman. In this case, they almost never rushed more than 4. Which told me they were struggling on the back end. Thats why you didnt see but one sack and that was a bad snap.

I saw some good things in there. But then, I know what to look for, and what to expect from a 3-4 nose. A bunch of tackles and sacks arent one of them.

This.

ChiefRocka · 04-27-2012, 12:27 PM

the man was getting triple teamed...nuff said

vailpass · 04-27-2012, 12:30 PM

Tulane.
2-11
C-USA

kcpasco · 04-27-2012, 12:39 PM

Yes if only Poe could have played LB CB and Safety maybe the Memphis D wouldn't have been so shitty.

OskaloosaChief · 04-27-2012, 12:49 PM

A DT's job in a 3-4 scheme is to CONTROL the LOS and keep offensive linemen from getting to the LB's. Why do you think Ray Lewis racked up so many tackles with Ngata as his NT? Look at any 3-4 team and you'll see a TON of tackles from your middle LB's. Poe won't be relied on to get pressure (although, if he does, that would be a bonus), but more to just use his 346 pounds and strength he showed at the combine to keep opponent's OLmen from controlling the LOS. Hopefully, his ceiling is as high as some think it is and he can reach it. If so, we've got ourselves a good one. If not, the world will end.

**the Talking Can** · 04-27-2012, 12:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CrazyHorse

Very disruptive in the run game. They couldn't move him out of the run lane in most of the plays they ran at him. He has more than one pass rush move though he was used primarily as a plugger.

Those were the positives I saw. There were negatives as well. But a far cry from what I read in this thread. He was moved around a lot. That usually means thier best lineman. In this case, they almost never rushed more than 4. Which told me they were struggling on the back end. Thats why you didnt see but one sack and that was a bad snap.

I saw some good things in there. But then, I know what to look for, and what to expect from a 3-4 nose. A bunch of tackles and sacks arent one of them.

share the time code on these plays where he was 'disruptive in the run game'...

as I don't know anything about what a NT does, I'd like to learn

**OnTheWarpath15** · 04-27-2012, 12:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by the Talking Can

share the time code on these plays where he was 'disruptive in the run game'...

as I don't know anything about what a NT does, I'd like to learn

**Mr. Kotter** · 04-27-2012, 12:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CrazyHorse

Very disruptive in the run game. They couldn't move him out of the run lane in most of the plays they ran at him. He has more than one pass rush move though he was used primarily as a plugger.

Those were the positives I saw. There were negatives as well. But a far cry from what I read in this thread. He was moved around a lot. That usually means thier best lineman. In this case, they almost never rushed more than 4. Which told me they were struggling on the back end. Thats why you didnt see but one sack and that was a bad snap.

I saw some good things in there. But then, I know what to look for, and what to expect from a 3-4 nose. A bunch of tackles and sacks arent one of them.

FTR, I'm very skeptical of this pick...however, that said:

A whole lot of "football fans" think they understand the game, but don't know shit about the real Xs and Os of the game. NTs at the NFL level can be very effective as run-stopping, lane-clogging, and immovable objects in the middle of a talented defense--especially when they possess the physical tools Poe does. Our defense is young, athlethletic, and talented. If offenses cannot double and triple team him on every play, that will either (a) free up others to make the play, or (b) force single blocking on a guy who should be tough to block one-on-one.

I'm not convinced that Poe will become the next Raji or Ngata...BUT within our defense and with Crennel and our coaching staff, he has a real chance to develop. Yes, it's a high-risk and high-reward pick...but a whole lot of 1st round picks are just that. The draft has been, and will remain, largely a crap-shoot.

Pioli and his crew haven't met full expectations yet, but I'll take their recent drafts over Peterson's any day of the week...and twice on Sundays.

04-27-2012, 10:32 AM
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kcpasco MVP Join Date: Sep 2007 Casino cash: $7743463	Except he was doubled almost every play. This was a high risk high reward type pick at our biggest need on defense. I wish people chill out a little bit.
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CrazyHorse All Motor! Join Date: Sep 2000 Casino cash: $10004900	Very disruptive in the run game. They couldn't move him out of the run lane in most of the plays they ran at him. He has more than one pass rush move though he was used primarily as a plugger. Those were the positives I saw. There were negatives as well. But a far cry from what I read in this thread. He was moved around a lot. That usually means thier best lineman. In this case, they almost never rushed more than 4. Which told me they were struggling on the back end. Thats why you didnt see but one sack and that was a bad snap. I saw some good things in there. But then, I know what to look for, and what to expect from a 3-4 nose. A bunch of tackles and sacks arent one of them.
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kcpasco MVP Join Date: Sep 2007 Casino cash: $7743463	Yes if only Poe could have played LB CB and Safety maybe the Memphis D wouldn't have been so shitty.
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04-27-2012, 12:49 PM	#42
OskaloosaChief Starter Join Date: Sep 2010 Casino cash: $10005025	A DT's job in a 3-4 scheme is to CONTROL the LOS and keep offensive linemen from getting to the LB's. Why do you think Ray Lewis racked up so many tackles with Ngata as his NT? Look at any 3-4 team and you'll see a TON of tackles from your middle LB's. Poe won't be relied on to get pressure (although, if he does, that would be a bonus), but more to just use his 346 pounds and strength he showed at the combine to keep opponent's OLmen from controlling the LOS. Hopefully, his ceiling is as high as some think it is and he can reach it. If so, we've got ourselves a good one. If not, the world will end.
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