Cardinals ***OFFICIAL*** 2013 STL Cardinals Thread - Page 144

**BigRedChief** · 08:16 PM

From Bernie's column:

People have asked me why we’re not more emotional,” Matheny said in his office after Sunday’s game. “They say that we look subdued, always intense. That our actions are methodical, robotic at times. That’s what got us here. This isn’t the time to change it.”

It’s hard to argue with the manager’s assessment. The Cardinals finished with 97 victories, most by a Cards team since 2005, and tied with Boston for No. 1 in the majors this year.

Their 54-27 showing at Busch Stadium matches the 1985 team for the best single-season home winning percentage (.667) by the Cardinals since 1944.

A postseason theme has emerged, and it echoes the mantra that surfaced before the start of 2013: remember the fall of 2012. Remember falling to San Francisco in the NLCS.

The Cardinals’ veterans still haven’t forgotten. They still aren’t over it. It’s why Matheny resists GM John Mozeliak’s urgings to smile and put on a happier face.

Here's the most impressive aspect of the Cardinals' division championship: they prevailed over two other outstanding teams, Pittsburgh and Cincinnati.

The 97-win Cardinals were better this year (regular season) than they were in 2011, when they won 90 games, and 2012, when they won 88.
Here are a few numbers that help put the Cardinals' Central title and No. 1 NL seed in perspective:

* Since MLB switched to a three-division format in each league in 1994, this was only the sixth time that a division had three 90-plus win teams. St. Louis won 97, Pittsburgh 94, and Cincinnati 90.
* Since the format change, this was only the second time that an NL division had three 90-win teams. In 2002 the NL West had Arizona (98 wins), San Francisco (95) and Los Angeles (92).
* The 2013 Cardinals faced more esteemed and difficult competition at the top of the division than any of the division-winning teams managed by Tony La Russa.

The Pirates were hardly pushovers; the Cardinals had to work like mad and kick in with a strong finish to put the division away, and didn't clinch until Game No. 160.

The Cardinals went 9-10 against Pittsburgh this season and were 11-8 vs. Cincinnati.

The Cardinals won only three of 10 games at PNC Park in Pittsburgh and split the 10 games at Cincinnati. The Cardinals were 6-3 against both teams at Busch Stadium.

The Cardinals (1st), Pirates (3rd) and Reds (5th) ranked among the top five in wins in the NL. The three teams were among the top 11 in wins in MLB. All three teams finished in the top five in the majors for best overall ERA, and each were in the top five MLB for best starting-pitching ERA.

The original purpose to this piece was to point out that the Cardinals managed to finish with the league's best record while competing in a division that had three 90-win teams for only the second time in the last 19 years of National League baseball.

The Cardinals really earned this.
Thanks for reading ...
— Bernie

King_Chief_Fan · 06-19-2013, 07:02 AM

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Originally Posted by BigRedChief

The Cards bats need to step up and score some runs. They need to show they got waino's back when he doesn't have his best stuff.

no kidding.....time to set Freeze down......hit into 3 double plays

Swanman · 06-19-2013, 07:22 AM

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Originally Posted by PackerinMo

Hey did anyone catch that hot Cardinals fan holding a sign in last nights game? It said "I used to be a Cubs fan until I met this guy" (arrow pointing to her boyfriend) I wish I could find a still of it. lol

That happened with me and my wife. She was a Cubs fan but after going to her first game at Busch, she was converted. She said it was nice to go to a stadium that had actual baseball fans in it.

Jewish Rabbi · 06-19-2013, 06:44 PM

What the **** was that? Holliday-eque error by Carpenter there.

**BigRedChief** · 06-19-2013, 07:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Jewish Rabbi

What the **** was that? Holliday-eque error by Carpenter there.

well, it was only his 2nd one of the year. But it was a very basic baseball move. He must have lost the grip of the ball to throw it that wildly in such a short distance.

Jewish Rabbi · 06-19-2013, 08:21 PM

Yadier ****ing Molina, everyone.

'Hamas' Jenkins · 06-19-2013, 08:22 PM

Westbrook needs to deposit one in Rizzo's taint in the 7th. Jackson gets a skull buzz in his next start vs. the Cards.

Jewish Rabbi · 06-19-2013, 08:24 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

Westbrook needs to deposit one in Rizzo's taint in the 7th. Jackson gets a skull buzz in his next start vs. the Cards.

Rizzo already got hit once. He'll almost certainly be ejected if he hits him again... See how far we can stretch this lead first.

'Hamas' Jenkins · 06-19-2013, 08:25 PM

Another thought: given how many quirky baseball rules there are, perhaps you should award players second if they are hit by a pitch that would have been ball four.

O.city · 06-19-2013, 08:32 PM

If I'm gonna hit Rizzo, which I would have for that bullshit slide in the 2nd, it's not gonna be by Westbrook.

I'll wait and let Rosenthal do it in the 8th

O.city · 06-19-2013, 08:33 PM

And even though he has been slumping a bit. Carpenter has still hit the ball hard

'Hamas' Jenkins · 06-19-2013, 08:39 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city

If I'm gonna hit Rizzo, which I would have for that bullshit slide in the 2nd, it's not gonna be by Westbrook.

I'll wait and let Rosenthal do it in the 8th

I appreciate the desire to maximize pain, but the starting pitcher should always be the one to deal with mother****ers.

O.city · 06-19-2013, 08:40 PM

Oh yeah, thought d let you guys know, thanks to my dads boss I'll be in the green seats this weekend.

Sucks.

'Hamas' Jenkins · 06-19-2013, 08:41 PM

I think if I'm Matheny I tell Holliday: Every time you hit one on the ground, you're shagging 40 fly balls.

I'm so tired of him pulling every goddamned pitch into the dirt.

'Hamas' Jenkins · 06-19-2013, 08:42 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city

Oh yeah, thought d let you guys know, thanks to my dads boss I'll be in the green seats this weekend.

Sucks.

Chingaté cabrón

Marcellus · 06-19-2013, 08:43 PM

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