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Teicher: Chiefs plan to have competition for quarterback Cassel

Chiefs plan to have competition for quarterback Cassel
By ADAM TEICHER
The Kansas City Star

Of the players who served as a backup quarterback for the Chiefs the last three seasons, none could be considered a serious candidate to take Matt Cassel’s starting job.

General manager Scott Pioli said he couldn’t promise the Chiefs would find a more significant challenge for Cassel this year. But he indicated that if the Chiefs failed, it wouldn’t be for a lack of trying.

Just as it wasn’t, Pioli said, the last three seasons.

“The answer is yes, there’s going to be competition at quarterback,” Pioli said Thursday at the NFL scouting combine. “But that doesn’t make it different from any other year. That’s not different from the past.

“I don’t think we haven’t tried (to bring in competition for Cassel). Part of it was circumstances. When we traded for Matt, he was coming to a program that had two starting quarterbacks here already. It’s easy to sit here now and say, ‘You can’t say player X wasn’t competition.’ That’s not fair. Look at it in the snapshot of that place and time. It certainly appeared there was going to be competition.”

Tyler Thigpen and Brodie Croyle were the Chiefs’ quarterbacks when they traded for Cassel three years ago. Neither has been a productive player since leaving the Chiefs.

Matt Gutierrez, Tyler Palko, Ricky Stanzi and Kyle Orton have been quarterbacks who have come, and in some cases gone, since.

Stanzi, who was drafted last year, is the only Chiefs quarterback other than Cassel under contract for next season. Orton played in four games for the Chiefs last season after Cassel injured his hand and was lost for the year.

“Last year, free-agency never started (until training camp),” Pioli said. “We had Matt on the roster. We had Tyler on the roster. We had Ricky, who we drafted. We didn’t draft someone high who was perceived as competition, but I’ll say this: I think Ricky is competition. Let’s not get lost in where a guy was drafted as to whether or not he’s a player. This league has shown time and time again at many positions, including this particular position, that where a player is drafted doesn’t necessarily have anything to do with how good he is or how good he becomes.

“You just don’t wave a wand and magically say, ‘There’s competition.’ We drafted a quarterback last year who I truly believe has good ability and has the potential to start in this league. I really do believe that.”

With only Cassel and Stanzi signed for 2012, the Chiefs will add at least one quarterback and probably two before training camp starts in July. Veteran possibilities include Peyton Manning, if he’s released by Indianapolis.

Two other free-agent possibilities are Chad Henne, who played for Miami last year with new Chiefs offensive coordinator Brian Daboll, and Jason Campbell, who played two seasons for Washington under Jim Zorn, now the Chiefs’ quarterbacks coach.

“You don’t know what’s going to happen in free-agency and you don’t know what you’re going to be able to get done,” Pioli said. “Quarterback seems to be one of those positions where there’s pretty good ones, veteran guys who are cut and have outpriced their role.

“So you don’t know about quarterbacks (in free-agency). You can’t create a person out of nothing. Availability and circumstances are (key factors in acquiring a quarterback). You can only work with the pool of players you can work with even though you might have certain intentions.”

The draft is another option for the Chiefs to add a quarterback.

“My hope and strong desire is to draft a quarterback every single year,” Pioli said. “There’s great value in that. Last year I didn’t know if we were going to draft (a quarterback) in the first, second, third, fourth, fifth round, but we ended up drafting a guy who a number of us really like and really think can be a starter in the National Football League.”

One of Pioli’s first moves after joining the Chiefs three years ago was to trade for Cassel, who was coming off a strong season as a starter for New England. Cassel had a big season for the Chiefs in 2010, when he made the Pro Bowl.

Otherwise, he has struggled to fulfill Pioli’s vision for him. Last year, the Chiefs struggled at the start after losing running back Jamaal Charles and tight end Tony Moeaki for the season with injuries.

Cassel’s season ended after nine games because of the broken hand.

“In 2010, Matt was certainly on his way to becoming that player, on his way to becoming a good NFL quarterback,” Pioli said. “He was winning games and he was producing and he was a reason good things were happening.

“This past year was a tough set of circumstances to measure and evaluate his progress. I don’t ever want to make excuses for a team or a player, but playing without one of the best young running backs in the National Football League and playing without one of the
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Old 02-25-2012, 09:59 AM   #61
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So any chance Matt's hand hasn't fully healed or he has issues with his hand post-surgery?

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Old 02-25-2012, 10:32 AM   #62
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So any chance Matt's hand hasn't fully healed or he has issues with his hand post-surgery?

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Cassel doesn't have a Lis Franc injury, though that cat really like Stanzi though
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Whats this years excuses gonna be?

"Well, we got a little screwed in that it was a little too cold on some of the Sundays, then warm the next week. Thats tough on anyone".
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I wish I could have a 20 minute interview with Pioli.

No holds barred.

I'd knock it out of the park.
I hope you're talking about his head.

When all this is over, I want to see it thrust on a spike next to the 1969 championship flag that flies in the breeze at Arrowhead Stadium.

FOR ALL TO SEE.
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While acknowledging the NFL's tampering rules, Chiefs coach Romeo Crennel said Saturday at the scouting combine that if Indy QB Peyton Manning were to be released, Kansas City would be interested in taking a look. Crennel said that was as far as he would go with his comments.
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So he was completely lying earlier in the day when he said they wanted to bring Orton back.
Keeping reading about that and you will also hear Scott say that Lrton will explore other opportunities that he can start.

We all know Orton would beat the death of Cassel in a LEGIT qb competition.

Even Pioli knows it.

Let me put this as clearly as possible.

Pioli is more interested in trying to "fix the quarterback" than he is on trying to get this team in a position to win a championship.

NOTHING will change that in my opinion until the actions are changed.

Anyone that doesn't agree with that deserves Cassel to have butt secks with their mother.
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While acknowledging the NFL's tampering rules, Chiefs coach Romeo Crennel said Saturday at the scouting combine that if Indy QB Peyton Manning were to be released, Kansas City would be interested in taking a look. Crennel said that was as far as he would go with his comments.
How in blue hell does this NOT cost us a draft pick for tampering?

That's exactly what Gunther did.
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He won 2 games and took the 3rd to OT in crunch time.

He won the type of games Ca$$hole has always lost.

To me that speaks volumes.

I don't care how. I don't care if you dink and dunk or bomb it accurately deep - just win.

I'd give Orton 12 mil a year before ****ing Routt 7 mil.
What happened to you recently?

You used to be one of my favorite posters here....now this?
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How in blue hell does this NOT cost us a draft pick for tampering?

That's exactly what Gunther did.
I don't think that statement is tampering. Well, it shouldn't be, anyway.

Its not like RaC actually said it to Payton.

I'm not clear on what exactly Gunther did.
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I don't think that statement is tampering. Well, it shouldn't be, anyway.

Its not like RaC actually said it to Payton.

I'm not clear on what exactly Gunther did.
Basically the same, exact thing.

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What happened to you recently?

You used to be one of my favorite posters here....now this?
LOL giving Orton $12million/yr is insane.
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I don't think that statement is tampering. Well, it shouldn't be, anyway.

Its not like RaC actually said it to Payton.

I'm not clear on what exactly Gunther did.
Gunther didn't even name names like Romeo did and he did it in a random interview.

He just said that if Kansas City releases a couple if his old players that he would love to have them.

He lost a 7th rounder for that and had to swap fifths with us as punishment.

Romeo apparently went in front of a lot of reporters at the combine and said he would love to sign Peyton if he got released.

Peyton is still an employee of Indy.

I'd be willing to bet that we lose a pick for this that is something like a 4th rounder and that we don't even sign Manning.
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