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Old 07-17-2012, 11:45 AM  
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How does Dwayne Bowe rank among the elite WR's?

Sorry, didn't want this getting overlooked in the other thread. Then again, people will probably ignore it anyway - I know some of you will appreciate this.


I keep seeing people say that Dwayne Bowe isn't an elite WR. So I decided to do some research to see how he matches up statistically over his 5 years in the league.

What I found, is that statistically, Bowe is the 10th best WR of the last 5 years.

I found 9 other WR's that either had better yardage totals, better TD numbers or both. He was 10th in yardage, tied for 6th in TD's.

Here's the list. (Yardage/TD's) Bolded players have fewer or same TD's as Bowe.


Larry Fitzgerald - 6480/49

Roddy White - 6422/42

Reggie Wayne - 6234/36

Wes Welker - 6105/31

Calvin Johnson - 5872/49

Andre Johnson - 5703/35

Greg Jennings - 5539/46

Steve Smith - 5353/29

Marques Colston - 5202/40

Dwayne Bowe - 4927/36


Personally, I think that's impressive on its own.

Especially when you consider the only guy on this list who is younger is Megatron. I'd be curious to see how he matches up to the same players during each of their first 5 seasons.

Anyway, when you compare Bowe's number's to the #1 yardage and #1 TD's - he's not nearly as far off as it seems.

It comes down to 19.41 yard a game, and .16 TD's per game.

Factor in that Bowe is missing something the other 9 have - solid QB play.

After looking at this, its hard for me to say Dwayne Bowe is NOT an elite WR, considering how his numbers match up to the "elite" and never having the benefit of decent QB play.

I'm pretty confident in saying that with solid QB play, Bowe would easily make up 19.41 yards and .16 TD's a game.

Like him or not, he's an elite WR - and has shown it over his 5 years in the league.

Dude deserved elite money.

Or, tl;dr - **** him.


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Old 07-17-2012, 02:09 PM   #61
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The Chiefs can use a first rounder on a WR in 2013. After he gets acclimated for a year or two, then Cassel will have no excuses!
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Old 07-17-2012, 02:11 PM   #62
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Old 07-17-2012, 02:12 PM   #63
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The Chiefs can use a first rounder on a WR in 2013. After he gets acclimated for a year or two, then Cassel will have no excuses!
Yeah, but Tony Mo figures to get injured again this year. He needs a true #1 TE. Probably two. Tom Brady has them, so it's really unfair to expect Cassel to win playoff games without an equal supporting cast.
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Old 07-17-2012, 02:15 PM   #64
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if he didn't drop so many balls he'd probably be in the top five...
I know that you are trolling, but Bowe's catch percentage last season was a whopping 1.3 percent lower than Calvin Johnson's. Bowe was 8th out of 32 receivers, Calvin was 5th.

You actually gain a lot of insight into how good Bowe is if you shorten the list of receivers. In what was a "disappointing year" for Bowe according to some, with horrible QB play, out of the top 32 receivers Bowe was 6th in pass rating. There were only 3 guys in the league who were more than 1 point ahead of him.

The "list" by the way is sorted by highest percentage of snaps played.
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Some incredible statistics are being reported in this thread.

I wonder if Bowe's agent slapped Scott upside the head with these when he made his big offers.

Yeah, probably
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Old 07-17-2012, 02:32 PM   #66
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Bowe also forced 13 missed tackles last season. That was pretty near the top.

Now multiply that by the difference between Bowe's targets and Roddy White's.

Bowe would lead the league in missed tackles forced.
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Old 07-17-2012, 02:38 PM   #67
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Delhomme? Dude's thrown for 20,000+ yards in this league, and has a 300+ 3/0 game in a losing effort in the Super Bowl.
Ya... Delhomme was a real ****ing stud when Bowe entered the league.

I forgot Bowe was drafted in 2003.
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Old 07-17-2012, 02:39 PM   #68
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Ya... Delhomme was a real ****ing stud when Bowe entered the league.

I forgot Bowe was drafted in 2003.
Way to miss the point.

As usual.

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Only a Grade A fool would even attempt to compare the QB play Fitz and Smith have gotten to what Bowe has gotten.

Fitz and Smith have played with some shit QB's.

Bowe has played with nothing but shit QB's.

Thanks for confirming your ignorance.
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Old 07-17-2012, 02:40 PM   #69
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Way to miss the point.

As usual.
Rofl.

Get shit on and then walk backwards.

Fitz put up one of his best years last year, without Warner.
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Old 07-17-2012, 02:43 PM   #70
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Rofl.

Get shit on and then walk backwards.

Fitz put up one of his best years last year, without Warner.
Please explain how I've been shit on, much less walked backwards in this thread.

I'll wait, genius.

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Fitz and Smith have played with some shit QB's.

Bowe has played with nothing but shit QB's.

Thanks for confirming your ignorance.
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Old 07-17-2012, 02:46 PM   #71
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Rofl.

Get shit on and then walk backwards.

Fitz put up one of his best years last year, without Warner.
And yet he was still targeted 21 more times than Bowe.

And had a catch percentage that was almost 10 points LOWER.

If you take Fitz's targets and plug in Bowe's catch percentage and yards per catch, Bowe finishes with 1,345 yards to Fitz's 1,411.
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Old 07-17-2012, 02:49 PM   #72
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And yet he was still targeted 21 more times than Bowe.

And had a catch percentage that was almost 10 points LOWER.

If you take Fitz's targets and plug in Bowe's catch percentage and yards per catch, Bowe finishes with 1,345 yards to Fitz's 1,411.
You can throw all the evidence you want at this one.

He's either a troll, lacks basic intelligence, or both.
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Bowe also forced 13 missed tackles last season. That was pretty near the top.

Now multiply that by the difference between Bowe's targets and Roddy White's.

Bowe would lead the league in missed tackles forced.
Sometimes stats are worthless and one should just look at game tape.

Bowe rapes people on the field. Period. No other WR does what he does the way he does it.

Pay him.
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You can throw all the evidence you want at this one.

He's either a troll, lacks basic intelligence, or both.
He is a ****ing idiot.
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Old 07-17-2012, 02:52 PM   #75
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You can throw all the evidence you want at this one.

He's either a troll, lacks basic intelligence, or both.
Because taking some elses stats and plugging in Bowes is evidence.

You gonna take Bowe over Fitzgerald? Or even pay Bowe as much as Fitzgerald. Please...
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