Why Geno Smith fell in the draft

[tk13]

I've seen a couple other posts about this... but this probably deserves it's own thread considering how many hours we've wasted arguing about the guy. This is the first article I've seen theorizing why Geno fell in the draft. Time will tell whether it's accurate.

http://sports.yahoo.com/news/nfl--ge...183846651.html

On April 23, Smith, his agents, some family members and several friends gathered for dinner in New York in advance of the draft, a gathering confirmed by a family member. At one point, everyone around the table stood to give a toast to celebrate the evening.

Smith went last, thanking everyone and declaring that entire group – his agents included – were a "family" that would stay together his entire career, if not the rest of his life, the sources said. Smith, who at one point was expecting to be the No. 1 overall pick and at least a top 10 selection, has big plans for his career. Smith, according to the sources, hopes to emulate players such as Peyton Manning, Drew Brees and Aaron Rodgers, putting himself cut above the rest of the quarterback fray.

The problem is that NFL types see a guy who, right now, doesn't understand how to get there.

"His biggest problem is that he doesn't know what he doesn't know," said a league executive, who spent extensive time assessing Smith before the draft.

"I'm not sure he knows how to take instruction because he pretty much wouldn't listen or talk to our coaches … he's talented. He can sling it, he can fit it into tight spots, he can do a lot of things and I think he wants to be good. But you can't tell him anything right now. He's tuned out because he thinks he's got it all down."

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One possible factor in Smith dropping to the second round is a concern about leadership.

"He doesn't have much presence, not much of a leader," said another league executive, who spent a great deal of time studying Smith before the draft. "I don't think he's a bad person, but that's not enough to be a quarterback in this league."

Two sources indicated that when Smith went on some visits to teams, rather than interact with coaches and front-office people, he would spend much of his time on his cell phone. Instead of being engaged with team officials, he would be texting friends or reading Twitter or a number of other distracting activities.

"All these other players who were in there were talking to the coaches, trying to get to know people and he was over there by himself," one of the sources said. "That's not what you want out of your quarterback."

Both sources indicated that Florida State's E.J. Manuel, who was selected ahead of Smith at No. 16 overall by Buffalo, was far more impressive in terms of his personality and maturity.

"Manuel gets it, he gets the whole big picture of what it takes to lead a team," one of the league executives said.

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By Sunday, Smith was being convinced by other friends that it was the fault of his agents that he slipped so much in the draft, according to one of the sources.

"Right now, he's blaming everybody but himself and he has some buddies around him who are telling him that same thing," the source said.

[the Talking Can]

Tyler Bray has 2 mega threads praising....lmao


the single biggest **** head in the draft

[tk13]

Originally Posted by the Talking Can

#39 is mid second?

by the definitions used on this board regularly, Flacco and Rodgers were risks

I said almost.

Flacco was definitely a risk. But still, those guys were taken in the 1st round because most sane GM's value the QB position highly. Geno fell completely down the board. People are looking at this through the Chiefs' usual prism of fear, but even aside from that, the whole thing is very strange.

[Marcellus]

Originally Posted by the Talking Can

Tyler Bray - udfa, world's biggest douchebag...."HE'S OUR QBOTF...REJOICE! REID WILL TEACH HIM MATURITY!"

Geno Smith....."HE FELL ALL THE WAY TO #39, PLUS HE TEXTS...TOO RISKY!"

You probably are too dumb to realize that he didn't just drop over the texting right?


Joe Flacco, Dan Marino, and Aaron Rodgers didn't go 39 BTW.

[BossChief]

Originally Posted by Marcellus

I would LOVE to draft a franchise QB but unlike you I realize you cant do that when they dont exist in the current draft.

I also understand Reid and Dorsey have absolutely nothing to do with the previous 30 years in KC. Nothing, nada, zip, zilch.

That simple fact separates the people with brains from the people who just want something so bad they think they can imagine it into fruition.

Its kind of like having apposable thumbs.... or not.

Haha

In the last 6 drafts, we have drafted in the top 5 in 4 of them.

Right now, I'd trade ALL FOUR OF THOSE PLAYERS for anyof the top ten quarterbacks.

Sadly, one of those guys has already moved on to another team and another of those guys is seemingly on his last legs in KC...on a 1 year deal.

Let me give you a little treasure hunt...

Go and look at the last 10 quarterbacks to win a superbowl and come back and tell me how many of them we passed on in the draft.

I'll be right here, waiting for you intricate excuses for why it was totally fine to pass on al of them.

[Sure-Oz]

This guy fired his agent cause his dumbass thought he was going #1 overall despite unlimited rumors of kc taking an OT

[the Talking Can]

Originally Posted by tk13

I said almost.

Flacco was definitely a risk. But still, those guys were taken in the 1st round because most sane GM's value the QB position highly. Geno fell completely down the board. People are looking at this through the Chiefs' usual prism of fear, but even aside from that, the whole thing is very strange.

two historically smart franchises drafted them, and they were both clearly risky moves...most of the other franchises didn't and wouldn't have drafted them anywhere near where they were taken


it's a lesson we learn and forget...learn and forget

[the Talking Can]

Originally Posted by Marcellus

You probably are too dumb to realize that he didn't just drop over the texting right?


Joe Flacco, Dan Marino, and Aaron Rodgers didn't go 39 BTW.

we're done with you...you can go home

the question you asked was answered, definitively

you're wrong

again

[In58men]

Sources say: Geno never had a phone, his agent was taking all the calls.

[wazu]

I think this is all bullshit.

[O.city]

When will the Geno stuff die?

[In58men]

Originally Posted by wazu

I think this is all bullshit.

See the first page.

[the Talking Can]

night all


i always sleep well after clowning marcellus

[Marcellus]

Originally Posted by BossChief

Haha

In the last 6 drafts, we have drafted in the top 5 in 4 of them.

Right now, I'd trade ALL FOUR OF THOSE PLAYERS for anyof the top ten quarterbacks.

Sadly, one of those guys has already moved on to another team and another of those guys is seemingly on his last legs in KC...on a 1 year deal.

Let me give you a little treasure hunt...

Go and look at the last 10 quarterbacks to win a superbowl and come back and tell me how many of them we passed on in the draft.

I'll be right here, waiting for you intricate excuses for why it was totally fine to pass on al of them.

You keep proving my point dude. Read your post above about all these past drafts. Now read what I posted you responded to. (Pay close attention to the bolded parts, its like getting the answer to a test)

If you dont get it, its not my fault. I also have to wonder how you tie your shoes.

Originally Posted by Marcellus

I would LOVE to draft a franchise QB but unlike you I realize you cant do that when they dont exist in the current draft.

I also understand Reid and Dorsey have absolutely nothing to do with the previous 30 years in KC. Nothing, nada, zip, zilch.

Those simple facts separates the people with brains from the people who just want something so bad they think they can imagine it into fruition.

Its kind of like having apposable thumbs.... or not.

[Cannibal]

You broads STILL think we should've taken Geno 1.1 with all of QB needy teams that passed on his ass after we did?

****ing reeruned...

[O.city]

It's somewhat funny that we've decided there are no franchise QB's in this draft, 2 weeks after teh draft.