Computers Help building my first gaming rig - Page 3

**Shogun** · 07:47 PM

The PC vs Console thread really got me going (although, I've been wanting to do this for some time) I want to build a nice gaming rig that I can use to play some PC exclusives on as well as not having to worry about it being slow as hell compared to my POS laptop.

What I want -

1. Must be able to run graphics at med/high settings. (770 card?)
2. I'd like to have good storage for movies/music (I don't know the advantages/differences of an SSD/HDD.
3. I'd like to have an HDMI port so I can move it into my living room on the big screen.
4. I do need a monitor. Undecided whether or not I want to run a dual/tri monitor setup yet.
5. I still burn CD's and Dvds. Will need a drive that supports both.
6. 8 GB of Ram at least with options to upgrade to 16gb in the future.

To sum It up I want a Rig that can do it all with little to no issues speed wise. I have a budget of around $1000, which is pretty flexible.

I also like pretty things. So I'm not afraid to spend a little more on a nicer case. Am a big fan of the Cooler Master Stryker case, I love the cases with the windows in the side with LEDS.

If anybody would like to help me I would greatly appreciate it. I just want to be apart of the PC master race.

EDIT:

This is build I am going with, unless I find good deals on better components.

PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/287w2
Price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/287w2/by_merchant/
Benchmarks: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/287w2/benchmarks/

CPU: Intel Core i5-4670K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($219.98 @ SuperBiiz)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($29.98 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: Asus Z87-PRO ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($174.98 @ SuperBiiz)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance LP 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($86.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung 840 EVO 120GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($89.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($58.98 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: PNY GeForce GTX 770 2GB Video Card ($312.99 @ B&H)
Case: Corsair Vengeance C70 (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($89.99 @ Newegg)
Case Fan: Corsair Air Series SP120 Quiet Edition (2-Pack) 37.9 CFM 120mm Fans ($27.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Corsair CX 750W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($69.99 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Lite-On iHAS124-04 DVD/CD Writer ($17.99 @ Newegg)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($89.00 @ Amazon)
Total: $1268.85
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-11-26 20:46 EST-0500)

jd1020 · 11-24-2013, 03:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shogun

I think that the GPU is going to last me quite a while without adding another one. I've gone realistically about $200 over budget already so I think I'm set here for a while. I did like the idea to add the SSD now instead of later though. I'll be looking for some of these parts on BF or Cyber monday

Well, the PSU is one of the pieces of a computer you DO NOT want to skimp on. A 550W is like the bare minimum recommended PSU for a 770.

SSD is a luxury item. It's your money and computer but I'd drop the SSD and get it later, reduce the ram because because 16GB is pretty overkill for gaming, especially when you are only buying 2 sticks with an option to upgrade to 32GB (which will never be needed for the life of this computer for gaming), and take the money saved to get a better PSU.

**Shogun** · 11-24-2013, 03:57 PM

Gotcha. I'll take all of that into consideration. I have about another month before I'm able to do this, so lots of tweaking and changes can happen between now and then.

Setsuna · 11-24-2013, 04:07 PM

A $1K budget with Black Friday and Cyber Monday looming. You can get whatever you want. Don't listen to these people.

Actually dude you want waaay too much. Get a cheaper GPU, a 3rd gen i7 would be less than a 4th gen i5. You really need to think cheaper and upgrade later. You can get an HD Radeon 7770 for $100 which is fine. 16 GB is way too much. 8 is adequate. You're aiming too high. Leave yourself room in the budget.

BryanBusby · 11-24-2013, 04:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Shogun

Revised

PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/27PM3
Price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/27PM3/by_merchant/
Benchmarks: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/27PM3/benchmarks/

CPU: Intel Core i5-4570 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor ($189.99 @ Newegg)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($29.98 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: ASRock Z87 Extreme4 ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($117.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: Crucial Ballistix Sport 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($109.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Intel 520 Series Cherryville 120GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($119.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($58.99 @ NCIX US)
Video Card: PNY GeForce GTX 770 2GB Video Card ($312.99 @ B&H)
Wireless Network Adapter: Asus USB-N13 802.11b/g/n USB 2.0 Wi-Fi Adapter ($20.10 @ B&H)
Case: Corsair Vengeance C70 (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($107.98 @ Newegg)
Case Fan: Corsair Air Series SP120 Quiet Edition (2-Pack) 37.9 CFM 120mm Fans ($27.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Antec Basiq Plus 550W 80+ Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($64.97 @ OutletPC)
Optical Drive: Lite-On iHAS124-04 DVD/CD Writer ($14.99 @ Newegg)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($82.99 @ NCIX US)
Monitor: BenQ GW2255 60Hz 21.5" Monitor ($114.99 @ NCIX US)
Keyboard: Razer BlackWidow 2013 Wired Gaming Keyboard ($84.99 @ Amazon)
Total: $1458.92
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-11-24 16:31 EST-0500)

If you're not going to microcenter for the cpu+mobo combo, you're doing it wrong.

You can cut that price down dramatically.

16 gigs of ram is just overkill right now, 8 should be plenty.

Same thing with the video card. Go with a GTX660, which should be plenty but half the price: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...D=3938566&SID=

You're spending a ridiculous amount on case fans.

As for the Harddrive, why not a hybrid SSHD? http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...81&ignorebbr=1

I'd chop that build to under 1k and save some money for some upgrades down the road instead.

Setsuna · 11-24-2013, 04:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BryanBusby

If you're not going to microcenter for the cpu+mobo combo, you're doing it wrong.

You can cut that price down dramatically.

16 gigs of ram is just overkill right now, 8 should be plenty.

Same thing with the video card. Go with a GTX660, which should be plenty but half the price: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...D=3938566&SID=

You're spending a ridiculous amount on case fans.

As for the Harddrive, why not a hybrid SSHD? http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...81&ignorebbr=1

I'd chop that build to under 1k and save some money for some upgrades down the road instead.

Stop giving links and copying what I said.

BryanBusby · 11-24-2013, 04:19 PM

Suggesting a 3rd gen i7 is lol and your post wasn't even up when I started writing that one.

Setsuna · 11-24-2013, 04:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BryanBusby

Suggesting a 3rd gen i7 is lol and your post wasn't even up when I started writing that one.

Yeah I realized a 3rd gen i7 is more than what he plans on getting.

Why in the world are 4th gen all in ones more if the processors themselves cost less than the 3rd gen?

**notorious** · 11-24-2013, 04:27 PM

I am gathering that an I5 is better than the TOTL AMD chips.

BryanBusby · 11-24-2013, 04:30 PM

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Originally Posted by notorious

I am gathering that an I5 is better than the TOTL AMD chips.

You would be correct. Intel has been completely slaying AMD for awhile now, even on the budget level.

**notorious** · 11-24-2013, 04:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BryanBusby

You would be correct. Intel has been completely slaying AMD for awhile now, even on the budget level.

Just when I think I have it figured out with the FX-8350, I learn something new.

Sigh.

Mr. Laz · 11-24-2013, 04:32 PM

120 or 240 gig SSD main OS drive with a large platter strorage drive is the way to go for speed/storage/cost imo

make sure you get a good big case so that you can just keep replacing/upgrading etc into the future.

Setsuna · 11-24-2013, 04:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by notorious

Just when I think I have it figured out with the FX-8350, I learn something new.

Sigh.

If you get an intel processor than you don't really need that much cooling. But AMD you need it in a bad way or expect overheating shut downs when you overclock.

BryanBusby · 11-24-2013, 04:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by notorious

Just when I think I have it figured out with the FX-8350, I learn something new.

Sigh.

To give you a slight idea on how bad it is right now.

http://www.cpubenchmark.net/singleThread.html

AMD has really shit their pants since the Phenom era.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Setsuna

If you get an intel processor than you don't really need that much cooling. But AMD you need it in a bad way or expect overheating shut downs when you overclock.

As a rule, I never suggest using a stock cooler unless someone is trying to do the absolute cheapest build. But yeah, the wattage that the newer AMD chips need is just ridiculous.

**Shogun** · 11-24-2013, 05:57 PM

made some revisions upon reading some of your feedback. would love your opinions

PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/27Vfe
Price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/27Vfe/by_merchant/
Benchmarks: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/27Vfe/benchmarks/

CPU: Intel Core i5-4670K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($225.99 @ NCIX US)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($29.98 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: ASRock Z87 Extreme4 ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($117.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($74.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Seagate 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Hybrid Internal Hard Drive ($97.95 @ Amazon)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 660 3GB Video Card ($223.98 @ Newegg)
Wireless Network Adapter: Asus USB-N13 802.11b/g/n USB 2.0 Wi-Fi Adapter ($20.10 @ B&H)
Case: Corsair Vengeance C70 (White) ATX Mid Tower Case ($79.99 @ Newegg)
Case Fan: Corsair Air Series AF120 Quiet Edition (2-Pack) 39.9 CFM 120mm Fans ($27.99 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: Antec EarthWatts Green 650W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($71.24 @ Amazon)
Optical Drive: Lite-On iHAS124-04 DVD/CD Writer ($14.99 @ Newegg)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($82.99 @ NCIX US)
Monitor: Gateway FHX2303LAbd 60Hz 23.0" Monitor ($99.99 @ Amazon)
Keyboard: Razer BlackWidow 2013 Wired Gaming Keyboard ($84.99 @ Amazon)
Total: $1253.16
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-11-24 18:56 EST-0500)

**Shogun** · 11-24-2013, 05:58 PM

got a bigger monitor for around $25 cheaper than the other one

downgraded the card (hopefully i dont see much dropoff?)

bigger power supply

added the hybrid SSD/HDD

11-24-2013, 01:27 PM
Shogun The White Skip Bayless Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Olathe Casino cash: $9477174	Help building my first gaming rig The PC vs Console thread really got me going (although, I've been wanting to do this for some time) I want to build a nice gaming rig that I can use to play some PC exclusives on as well as not having to worry about it being slow as hell compared to my POS laptop. What I want - 1. Must be able to run graphics at med/high settings. (770 card?) 2. I'd like to have good storage for movies/music (I don't know the advantages/differences of an SSD/HDD. 3. I'd like to have an HDMI port so I can move it into my living room on the big screen. 4. I do need a monitor. Undecided whether or not I want to run a dual/tri monitor setup yet. 5. I still burn CD's and Dvds. Will need a drive that supports both. 6. 8 GB of Ram at least with options to upgrade to 16gb in the future. To sum It up I want a Rig that can do it all with little to no issues speed wise. I have a budget of around $1000, which is pretty flexible. I also like pretty things. So I'm not afraid to spend a little more on a nicer case. Am a big fan of the Cooler Master Stryker case, I love the cases with the windows in the side with LEDS. If anybody would like to help me I would greatly appreciate it. I just want to be apart of the PC master race. EDIT: This is build I am going with, unless I find good deals on better components. PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/287w2 Price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/287w2/by_merchant/ Benchmarks: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/287w2/benchmarks/ CPU: Intel Core i5-4670K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($219.98 @ SuperBiiz) CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($29.98 @ OutletPC) Motherboard: Asus Z87-PRO ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($174.98 @ SuperBiiz) Memory: Corsair Vengeance LP 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($86.99 @ Newegg) Storage: Samsung 840 EVO 120GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($89.99 @ Amazon) Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($58.98 @ OutletPC) Video Card: PNY GeForce GTX 770 2GB Video Card ($312.99 @ B&H) Case: Corsair Vengeance C70 (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($89.99 @ Newegg) Case Fan: Corsair Air Series SP120 Quiet Edition (2-Pack) 37.9 CFM 120mm Fans ($27.99 @ Newegg) Power Supply: Corsair CX 750W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($69.99 @ Newegg) Optical Drive: Lite-On iHAS124-04 DVD/CD Writer ($17.99 @ Newegg) Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($89.00 @ Amazon) Total: $1268.85 (Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.) (Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-11-26 20:46 EST-0500) Last edited by Shogun; 11-26-2013 at 07:47 PM..
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