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-King- · 02:22 PM

2012-2013 NBA Champions:

chiefzilla1501 · 06-16-2013, 10:33 PM

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Originally Posted by dirk digler

I know but the point I was trying to make was so through 5 games Danny Green or Parker have played the best in this series. Lebron has just been average at best.

It's a funny thing that Parker and LeBron haven't been hot at the same time in the 4th quarter. I think this series is going to come down to which of the two outplays the other in the 4th quarter for the rest of the series.

I've just seen that killer instinct in Parker. How many times has the half closed with Parker on a few possessions taking a shot no matter what. Even if he's triple covered? I don't care who LeBron is most of the game. In game 6 or 7, I don't care how much he's covered. LeBron can't be the distributor in the 4th quarter. I'd rather a covered LeBron take a shot in that situation than Bosh shoot an open shot.

Hammock Parties · 06-16-2013, 10:35 PM

Manu ****ing Ginobili showed more killer instinct than LeBron tonight.

LeBron is pathetic and heir to no one's throne.

tk13 · 06-16-2013, 10:37 PM

I'd say I'm surprised, but I'm not. The Spurs are dangerous when they smell blood. Incredible stat.

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@ESPNStatsInfo Spurs:14-2 in potential series-clinching games played on the road since start of the 2002-03 postseason.

Rest of NBA: 61-75 in that span.

-King- · 06-16-2013, 10:44 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry

Kobe in the top 5 is just silly. Hell Kobe barely would be in the top 10. Shaq, Hakeem, Karl Malone, Tim Duncan are all ahead of Kobe.

KC_Connection · 06-17-2013, 12:12 AM

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Originally Posted by dirk digler

I know but the point I was trying to make was so through 5 games Danny Green or Parker have played the best in this series. Lebron has just been average at best.

Danny Green has hit some shots. He doesn't play elite level defense, facilitate, or rebound for his team like Miami's best player.

KC_Connection · 06-17-2013, 12:13 AM

http://www.oddschecker.com/basketbal...ionship/winner

Looks like Miami is still the odds-on favorite to win this series even with the loss tonight. Home advantage matters.

BigCatDaddy · 06-17-2013, 07:39 AM

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Originally Posted by KC_Connection

http://www.oddschecker.com/basketbal...ionship/winner

Looks like Miami is still the odds-on favorite to win this series even with the loss tonight. Home advantage matters.

Sure. Stearn is going to have the ref favor Miami and try to set up a game 7.

tredadda · 06-17-2013, 07:55 AM

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Originally Posted by KC native

My obviously biased opinion is sufficient.

Fair enough.

tredadda · 06-17-2013, 07:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Branden Albert's Huge Balls

Manu ****ing Ginobili showed more killer instinct than LeBron tonight.

LeBron is pathetic and heir to no one's throne.

That was also the best game of the season for Manu. Outside of last night he has been an absolute non factor this series and you are a fool to think he could repeat that performance again.

lcarus · 06-17-2013, 08:19 AM

Figured this would be a 7 game series. With how Miami usually bounces back after a loss, that's probably what will happen.

**The Bad Guy** · 06-17-2013, 08:37 AM

Don't know if this had been posted, but LeBron was 1 for ****ing 8 with Boris "titty's" Diaw covering him.

He settled for jump shots instead of attacking.

Mr_Tomahawk · 06-17-2013, 09:44 AM

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Originally Posted by The Bad Guy

Don't know if this had been posted, but LeBron was 1 for ****ing 8 with Boris "titty's" Diaw covering him.

He settled for jump shots instead of attacking.

"Clutch"

/H00tie

Al Czervik · 06-17-2013, 09:57 AM

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Originally Posted by The Bad Guy

Don't know if this had been posted, but LeBron was 1 for ****ing 8 with Boris "titty's" Diaw covering him.

He settled for jump shots instead of attacking.

LOL...so true

KevB · 06-17-2013, 10:17 AM

For all the talk of who is historically better, can we use the Bill Simmons pyramid as a starting point? If you've read his Book of Basketball, you understand he did a significant amount of research to come to his list. That said, any list like this includes some bias. But at least this generally puts the right players into the right groupings. I saw someone say Karl Malone was ahead of Kobe. Umm, no.

Simmons HOF Pyramid - Top 96

Edit : LeBron is the variable here. The list is a couple of years old, so the assumption has to be that LeBron has moved up from his #20 ranking. Obviously, where inside that top 20 is very much open to debate. He's also the only guy near the top of this list who still has a lot of time to move up (or down).

BigCatDaddy · 06-17-2013, 11:41 AM

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Originally Posted by KevB

For all the talk of who is historically better, can we use the Bill Simmons pyramid as a starting point? If you've read his Book of Basketball, you understand he did a significant amount of research to come to his list. That said, any list like this includes some bias. But at least this generally puts the right players into the right groupings. I saw someone say Karl Malone was ahead of Kobe. Umm, no.

Simmons HOF Pyramid - Top 96

Edit : LeBron is the variable here. The list is a couple of years old, so the assumption has to be that LeBron has moved up from his #20 ranking. Obviously, where inside that top 20 is very much open to debate. He's also the only guy near the top of this list who still has a lot of time to move up (or down).

Not bad and that's pretty close to my modern top 5 I listed earlier. You can flip flop Magic and Larry as it's tought to put over the other and Duncan and Kobe can be considered pretty close as well. Like you said Lebron is still a work in progress, but at the moment he's still behind Kobe all time.

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KevB Agree to Disagree Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: The State of Euphoria Casino cash: $10026612	For all the talk of who is historically better, can we use the Bill Simmons pyramid as a starting point? If you've read his Book of Basketball, you understand he did a significant amount of research to come to his list. That said, any list like this includes some bias. But at least this generally puts the right players into the right groupings. I saw someone say Karl Malone was ahead of Kobe. Umm, no. Simmons HOF Pyramid - Top 96 Edit : LeBron is the variable here. The list is a couple of years old, so the assumption has to be that LeBron has moved up from his #20 ranking. Obviously, where inside that top 20 is very much open to debate. He's also the only guy near the top of this list who still has a lot of time to move up (or down).
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