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Old 10-05-2011, 02:30 PM  
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Baby kidnapped from home in KC
How is this not a topic of discussion on a KC message board?
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Old 10-06-2011, 09:05 PM   #136
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How did the Dad come home from work after the crime, but his cell was stolen during the crime? Wouldn't he of had his cell at work?
It was probably pesky little questions like that one that caused the family to stop cooperating.
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Old 10-06-2011, 09:26 PM   #137
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I dont take mine to work.


But my kids are at home.
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Old 10-06-2011, 11:19 PM   #138
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I dont take mine to work.


But my kids are at home.
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id say you are in the extreme minority here.
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Old 10-06-2011, 11:22 PM   #139
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How did the Dad come home from work after the crime, but his cell was stolen during the crime? Wouldn't he of had his cell at work?
Allegedly, they left them on the kitchen table because they were in the process of reprogramming them, or some such shit.
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Old 10-06-2011, 11:35 PM   #140
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The cell phones hold the answer. Many now have GPS. They would also record where and when they were turned off at the cell tower...and the cell carriers mainframe.

As a dad myself, I remember when I had a newborn and trust me, my wife would have made sure I had my cell at my side at all times. Newborn gets sick and who will watch the other kids. When do you ever re-program 3 phones at once?

On a side note to all who have gone totally wireless. Look what can happen. If they had a landline they could have called 911 more quickly. It's only $20/mo.
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Old 10-07-2011, 05:07 AM   #141
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The whole cell phone issue is weird. How many minutes would it take to get to the neighbors to use a phone of theirs? 120 seconds maybe?? So the whole idea of thinking it would be a "stalling for time" thing doesn't add up.
Also, I can't imagine anyone who broke in to kidnap the baby would be thinking of ANYTHING other than getting out asap without the baby waking up. Who the hell would be turning on lights and looking for something else to nab since they were there already??
This is really starting to stink.
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Old 10-07-2011, 07:10 AM   #142
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The whole cell phone issue is weird. How many minutes would it take to get to the neighbors to use a phone of theirs? 120 seconds maybe?? So the whole idea of thinking it would be a "stalling for time" thing doesn't add up.
Also, I can't imagine anyone who broke in to kidnap the baby would be thinking of ANYTHING other than getting out asap without the baby waking up. Who the hell would be turning on lights and looking for something else to nab since they were there already??
This is really starting to stink.
If the father didn't have anything to do with it, then the mother did. JMO
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Old 10-07-2011, 07:10 AM   #143
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Something is very strange about this whole thing.
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Old 10-07-2011, 07:11 AM   #144
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Title of article is "KCPD Says Missing Baby's Parents No Longer Cooperating" but it doesn't really say how they're not. Weird.

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(Kansas City, MO) -- Kansas City police say the parents of missing 10-month-old Lisa Irwin are no longer cooperating with investigators.

Capt. Steve Young said the parents had been cooperative with investigators until Thursday night but that changed.

"It doesn't help the investigation," he said.

Authorities have been searching for three days for the baby whose parents say was abducted from their Northland home. The search Thursday included heavily wooded areas, an industrial park and the sewers.

Dozens of officers searched the industrial park and adjacent woods in the area of Jackson Avenue and NE 34th Street Thursday morning. Some searchers were seen lifting sewer drain covers and looking inside.

Kansas City Water Department employees assisted in the search of manholes.

The parents of the missing baby, Lisa Irwin, answered questions from reporters Thursday morning about their daughter. This included making televised appearances on the national morning shows.

They said their cell phones were stolen but that nothing else appears to be missing from their home.

They also described the desperate few moments when they discovered that their daughter was missing from her crib inside their home in the 3600 block of North Lister Avenue.

They frantically searched their home but discovered only an open window, an unlocked front door and lights turned on.

"It is like they just walked in and just disappeared," Lisa's mother, Deborah Bradley, said.

Jeremy Irwin said he immediately knew something was wrong when he returned home from work early Tuesday.

Irwin said he came home from his overnight shift around 4 a.m. Tuesday. He noticed a first-floor window open in the front of the house. After checking on his sons, 6 and 8, he went to the bedroom of his daughter, Lisa, and noticed her missing. Bradley said she ran through the house screaming for her daughter but there was no answer.

Lisa's parents said they can't think of anyone who would abduct their child and that no one had shown an unusual interest in her before she was taken. Lisa's mother broke down as she said she could only think that someone snatched her child because they wanted a baby.

"She is everything. She is my little girl," Bradley said. "She means everything to our boys... We can't live without her."

Police conducted checkpoints in the neighborhood during the overnight hours Wednesday, hoping to catch possible witnesses up in the time frame when authorities believe Lisa was taken.

Police said they have followed up on nearly 50 leads between Tuesday night and Wednesday morning.

Crime scene technicians in white suits on Wednesday are combing the parents' Northland home and backyard for clues in an effort to find Lisa. Agents focused on a first-floor window through which the family believes the kidnapper entered the home.

Dogs are also being used in an effort to find the girl's scent. Officers on all-terrain vehicles searched a sandpit north of Highway 210 Wednesday afternoon.

A Kansas City patrol car is stationed outside Lisa's home around-the-clock.

Police issued an Amber Alert about 7:15 a.m., about three hours after her parents said they discovered her missing. The parents said the girl was snatched from her crib as she was sleeping.

Detectives met early Wednesday morning to determine the next step in the investigation. The couple's older sons are being watched by neighbors.

Young on Wednesday said the parents are assisting detectives.

"Nobody knows more about what's going on in that house than the parents do," Young said.

More than 300 residents who live in the area have consented to have their homes voluntarily searched, he said.

Authorities said the suspect entered through a bedroom window and snatched the baby from her bed as she was sleeping.

She was last seen on Monday around 10:30 p.m. when her mother put her to bed in a crib, police said. Her father is an electrician and he arrived home from an overnight shift about 4 a.m. He discovered Lisa missing and frantically called police.

According to police, it appears the suspect entered and exited through a bedroom window. Young said a first-floor window appeared to have been tampered with. Police waited more than three hours to issue the Amber Alert because they wanted to interview family members and ensure their stories checked out.

Lisa has blue eyes and blonde hair. She is 30 inches tall and weighs between 26 and 30 pounds.

Lisa was last seen wearing purple shorts and a purple shirt with white kittens on it.

Lisa is described as having two bottom teeth, a small bug bite under her left ear, a beauty mark on her right outer thigh and currently has a cold with a cough.

Anyone with information is asked to call the TIPS Hotline at 816-474-8477.
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Old 10-07-2011, 07:18 AM   #145
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http://www.kansascity.com/2011/10/06...h-missing.html

This story says the hubby started to get "testy" with all the questioning and the mom failed a lie detector test.
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Old 10-07-2011, 07:19 AM   #146
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Heard today from someone that the police are now suspecting the mother. The baby apparently had been sick lately and the thinking is the mother had enough of the crying.

Hope not true but who knows at this point.
I was watching Fox4 this morning. They reported that the mother supposedly failed a polygraph test.
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Old 10-07-2011, 07:23 AM   #147
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I was watching Fox4 this morning. They reported that the mother supposedly failed a polygraph test.
The mother admitted she failed the test this morning on NBC.
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Old 10-07-2011, 07:24 AM   #148
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Im sure "privately" investigators have suspected the parents all along, they just have no concrete evidence to say anything public about it.
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Old 10-07-2011, 07:30 AM   #149
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That's an interesting turn.

It wouldn't be too tough to find out if dad was at work during his shift, and I'd think a 6 and 8 year old kid would know if they had seen their sister at bed time.

Did she fail the test on questions about the child or "have you been cheating on your husband".
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Old 10-07-2011, 08:12 AM   #150
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That's an interesting turn.

It wouldn't be too tough to find out if dad was at work during his shift, and I'd think a 6 and 8 year old kid would know if they had seen their sister at bed time.

Did she fail the test on questions about the child or "have you been cheating on your husband".
Apparently, that night the dad worked overtime, it was the first time ever he had worked overtime.
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