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Old 02-16-2018, 12:01 PM  
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Mueller indicts Russians

The special counsel's office said Friday that a federal grand jury indicted 13 Russian nationals and three Russian entities in the probe into interference in the 2016 elections.
The indictment says that the defendants allegedly, by early to mid 2016, were "supporting the presidential campaign of then-candidate Donald J. Trump ... and disparaging Hillary Clinton."
An announcement from special counsel Robert Mueller's office said that the government accuses all the defendants of conspiracy to defraud the United States. Three defendants are charged with conspiracy to commit wire fraud and bank fraud. Five defendants are charged with aggravated identity theft.

https://www.cnbc.com/2018/02/16/russ...ers-probe.html
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Old 02-20-2018, 09:27 AM   #976
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Old 02-20-2018, 09:41 AM   #977
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It is not the ad spend that is most suspect. Facebook also acknowledged that they had 270m fake accounts. And that, not ads, is the heart of the problem.
False accounts creating false communities creating false meme's that were shared about 100 of millions of people.

But hey, some Russian create Meme said it was only 13 Russians, so lets believe that.
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Old 02-20-2018, 09:47 AM   #978
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Some lawyer deleted emails and Mueller indictes him? WUT? Hillary?
Lawyer should say he wiped his computer, like with a cloth.
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Old 02-20-2018, 09:54 AM   #979
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Here's an illustration on how this works since people seem to completely misunderstand.

billionaires finance a highly sophisticated data center that knows with precision what segments to target, what specific content will trend, so precise they know exact word combinations to use. This messaging leads to Status updates, tweets, fake news articles, YouTube videos that trolls can share.

Billionaires finance troll farms. Hundreds of people whose full time job is to maintain hundreds of fake accounts, which now means you have 50k fake accounts spending all day constantly tweeting and retweeting 40 hours per week. Fake accounts spend all day sharing strategically prepared content, retweeting and amplifying specific posts, flooding specific hashtags with targeted content, and pyramid scheming by sharing other trolls' content. Often times very credibly appearing to be real people.

So let's put this into practice. Russia has a talking point. They use Cambridge analytica data to find the most effective way to propagandize. Content is prepped for troll farms to share. Fake accounts appearing to be credible media entities or political personalities share content that appears credible. Immediately 50k bots and trolls are flooding hash tags, sharing, retweeting, and automating fake status updates and tweets. Posts trend to the top on Twitter and Facebook.

That is how you propagandize. Ads are such a tiny part of this picture.
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Old 02-20-2018, 10:25 AM   #980
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Here's an illustration on how this works since people seem to completely misunderstand.

billionaires finance a highly sophisticated data center that knows with precision what segments to target, what specific content will trend, so precise they know exact word combinations to use. This messaging leads to Status updates, tweets, fake news articles, YouTube videos that trolls can share.

Billionaires finance troll farms. Hundreds of people whose full time job is to maintain hundreds of fake accounts, which now means you have 50k fake accounts spending all day constantly tweeting and retweeting 40 hours per week. Fake accounts spend all day sharing strategically prepared content, retweeting and amplifying specific posts, flooding specific hashtags with targeted content, and pyramid scheming by sharing other trolls' content. Often times very credibly appearing to be real people.

So let's put this into practice. Russia has a talking point. They use Cambridge analytica data to find the most effective way to propagandize. Content is prepped for troll farms to share. Fake accounts appearing to be credible media entities or political personalities share content that appears credible. Immediately 50k bots and trolls are flooding hash tags, sharing, retweeting, and automating fake status updates and tweets. Posts trend to the top on Twitter and Facebook.

That is how you propagandize. Ads are such a tiny part of this picture.
Is any part of the scenario you just laid out illegal?
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Old 02-20-2018, 10:26 AM   #981
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Here's an illustration on how this works since people seem to completely misunderstand.

billionaires finance a highly sophisticated data center that knows with precision what segments to target, what specific content will trend, so precise they know exact word combinations to use. This messaging leads to Status updates, tweets, fake news articles, YouTube videos that trolls can share.

Billionaires finance troll farms. Hundreds of people whose full time job is to maintain hundreds of fake accounts, which now means you have 50k fake accounts spending all day constantly tweeting and retweeting 40 hours per week. Fake accounts spend all day sharing strategically prepared content, retweeting and amplifying specific posts, flooding specific hashtags with targeted content, and pyramid scheming by sharing other trolls' content. Often times very credibly appearing to be real people.

So let's put this into practice. Russia has a talking point. They use Cambridge analytica data to find the most effective way to propagandize. Content is prepped for troll farms to share. Fake accounts appearing to be credible media entities or political personalities share content that appears credible. Immediately 50k bots and trolls are flooding hash tags, sharing, retweeting, and automating fake status updates and tweets. Posts trend to the top on Twitter and Facebook.

That is how you propagandize. Ads are such a tiny part of this picture.
Wow. This is an outstanding post. Have some rep.
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Old 02-20-2018, 10:29 AM   #982
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Is any part of the scenario you just laid out illegal?
I don't know if "interfering with the US political system" is illegal.

Wire fraud and identity theft are, and the troll farms are neck deep in it.

Read the Mueller indictment. I am shocked nobody on this board is reading the Mueller indictment.
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Old 02-20-2018, 10:31 AM   #983
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Soon the progs will go off on Subliminal Messages from Bots. The bots are everywhere creating more bots
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Old 02-20-2018, 10:32 AM   #984
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Read the Mueller indictment. I am shocked nobody on this board is reading the Mueller indictment.
I've read it.

I've posted direct quotes from it.

Conservatives would rather believe Russian created meme's as they yell that they don't fall for Russian created memes.
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I don't know if "interfering with the US political system" is illegal.

Wire fraud and identity theft are, and the troll farms are neck deep in it.

Read the Mueller indictment. I am shocked nobody on this board is reading the Mueller indictment.
I read it when it first came out.

It seems like your answer to my question is "no".
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I read it when it first came out.

It seems like your answer to my question is "no".
I would start with probably reading my actual answer, which was "I don't know if "interfering with the US political system" is illegal."

Not no.
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I would start with probably reading my actual answer, which was "I don't know if "interfering with the US political system" is illegal."

Not no.
I thought you were simply hedging, sorry.

So your answer is "I don't know"?
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Maybe a Russian bot caused the Parkland shooter to go on a rampage. He claimed he "heard voices" - maybe it was the voices of 279 million Russian bots trying to sow discord into our society?
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I thought you were simply hedging, sorry.

So your answer is "I don't know"?
Not just his answer. It's the story of his life.
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I've read it.

I've posted direct quotes from it.

Conservatives would rather believe Russian created meme's as they yell that they don't fall for Russian created memes.
Yeah I read it to, basically states that you and the Left as a whole have been trolled by Russians.

So, you bought it hook, line, and sinker. #Resist #NotMyPresident are Russian troll jobs.

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