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Old 02-18-2018, 09:22 PM  
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Gates Pleads Guilty agrees to 18 months in prison flips on Trump and Manafort.

Former Trump Aide Rick Gates Will Plead Guilty To Mueller Probe Charges: Report
He’s willing to testify against Paul Manafort, his onetime associate, according to The Los Angeles Times.

Rick Gates, a former campaign aide to President Donald Trump, will plead guilty to charges related to fraud and is willing to testify against his longtime business partner, Paul Manafort, The Los Angeles Times reported on Sunday.

Manafort, a longtime Washington lawyer and lobbyist, served as Trump’s campaign manager during part of the 2016 presidential race.

Speculation has grown for weeks that Gates would cooperate with special counsel Robert Mueller’s ongoing inquiry into Russian meddling in the presidential election. Gates, who served as Trump’s deputy campaign manager, was indicted in October along with Manafort on charges ranging from money laundering to violations of foreign lobbying laws. He pleaded not guilty to all charges at the time, which carry 10 years or more in potential sentences.

The plea will reportedly change in the coming days, and Gates will likely serve about 18 months in prison in exchange for his cooperation, the Times reported.

“Rick Gates is going to change his plea to guilty,″ a source familiar with the case told the outlet.

The Mueller probe has flipped two other high-profile Trump associates in recent months ― former national security adviser Michael Flynn and foreign policy adviser George Papadopoulos. Both men have pleaded guilty to lying to the FBI about their contacts with Russian officials and have been cooperating with the investigation for months.

Gates’ lawyers have been negotiating with Mueller’s legal team for weeks, CNN reported on Saturday. According to the outlet, the special counsel’s team was finalizing a deal after Gates was allowed to give what’s known as a “Queen for a Day” interview, which typically allows a defendant to speak openly about their knowledge of an investigation without facing additional charges.

Gates could play a pivotal role in a trial against Manafort, who has stood by his own not guilty plea following the October indictment. A source told the Times that Gates’ cooperation would be a “cherry on top” of the case.

A White House official told CNN the Trump administration wasn’t worried about Gates’ cooperation with Mueller, as the president believed the flip was arranged to get more information against Manafort.

The Justice Department announced a sweeping set of charges against 13 Russians and three Russian entities on Friday, detailing a sophisticated campaign to sow discord among U.S. voters in the presidential election and in the process help elect Trump.

The president, who in the past has dismissed the Mueller investigation as a “witch hunt” and a “hoax,” again insisted after the indictments that his campaign did not collude with Russians during the race for the White House.

His current national security adviser, H.R. McMaster, said at a meeting Saturday in Germany that the indictments provided “incontrovertible” evidence that Russia interfered in the election.

But that sparked a Twitter post from Trump, who said McMaster “forgot to say that the results of the 2016 election were not impacted or changed by the Russians and that the only Collusion was between Russia and Crooked H, the DNC and the Dems,” referring to Hillary Clinton, the Democratic National Committee and the Democratic Party.

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Old 02-18-2018, 09:34 PM   #16
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So 20 indictments and 3 guilty pleas. Yep, total nothingburger, that Dave Loon guy wtf does he know?!? Amirite?
And not only have none of them been about collusion..the announcement from Friday just about killed any chance of any collusion charges at all.

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So, if they were polling better than Trump and the primary goal was to prevent Hillary from becoming POTUS, perhaps it would have been a better strategic decision to nominate someone who actually had a chance of beating her and preventing that than nominating Donald Trump.
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Old 02-18-2018, 09:35 PM   #17
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Come is a Gates associate?
I'm assuming that yea Gates has come at some point.
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Old 02-18-2018, 09:35 PM   #18
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Another thread another Loon fail
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And not only have none of them been about collusion..the announcement from Friday just about killed any chance of any collusion charges at all.

WOW!
Do you really actually believe that?
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So 20 indictments and 3 guilty pleas. Yep, total nothingburger, that Dave Loon guy wtf does he know?!? Amirite?
Funny watching you back peddle.
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Do you really actually believe that?
you mean when Mueller goes on public record and says Americans that may have been involved, were so unwittingly he really meant they knew exactly WTF they were doing???
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So, if they were polling better than Trump and the primary goal was to prevent Hillary from becoming POTUS, perhaps it would have been a better strategic decision to nominate someone who actually had a chance of beating her and preventing that than nominating Donald Trump.
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Fake Title, Loon Fail.
I'll bet Trump never even comes up.
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You know a small part of me almost wants Trump to get impeached. Then the retard liberals can see what they brought upon themselves when we have President Pence. If they think Trump is too conservative, look out
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Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein said Friday that “there is no allegation in this indictment that any American was a knowing participant” in law-breaking. He added, “There is no allegation in the indictment that the charge conduct altered the outcome of the 2016 election.” Neither does this indictment touch on whether Trump obstructed justice.
But Gates and stuff....
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Very nice, Richard. Now, give us the goods, dude.
Hold your breath...they are coming....
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you mean when Mueller goes on public record and says Americans that may have been involved, were so unwittingly he really meant they knew exactly WTF they were doing???
You are discussing a grandmaster chess player when all you are capable of is tiddlywinks.

Read the statement like a lawyer would and maybe you could see the distinctions.
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You know a small part of me almost wants Trump to get impeached. Then the retard liberals can see what they brought upon themselves when we have President Pence. If they think Trump is too conservative, look out
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You will not get this outcome.
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Very nice, Richard. Now, give us the goods, dude.
He already has. That's how you get a deal.
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