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Old 02-20-2018, 07:49 AM  
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The far-right smear campaign against students who survived the Parkland massacre

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Students who survived the gun massacre at Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School have emerged as powerful advocates of gun control and fierce critics of the NRA. Now they are being targeted by a right-wing smear campaign.

David Hogg, a senior at the school, was one of the first to appear on national television and demand action. “We’re children. You guys are the adults. You need to take some action and play a role. Work together. Come over your politics and get something done,” Hogg said, looking directly into the camera.

Hogg is now being targeted by Gateway Pundit, a far-right blog that has press credentials from the Trump White House. A post published on Monday by the site’s White House correspondent, Lucian Wintrich, features Hogg’s photo with the word “EXPOSED” stamped in red.
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Wintrich then drops all pretenses and fully embraces the conspiracy:

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Why would the child of an FBI agent be used as a pawn for anti-Trump rhetoric and anti-gun legislation? Because the FBI is only looking to curb YOUR Constitutional rights and INCREASE their power. We’ve seen similar moves by them many times over. This is just another disgusting example of it.
The Gateway Pundit story is spreading quickly on Facebook and has already been picked up by One American News Network, another right-wing outlet with White House media credentials.
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Gateway Pundit is not limiting its criticism to Hogg. A separate article, authored by Kristinn Taylor, attacks Hogg and fellow students Delaney Tarr, Cameron Kasky and Emma González. The entire article attacks these students for smiling in a photo.
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Old 02-20-2018, 08:54 AM   #46
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Old 02-20-2018, 08:54 AM   #47
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Old 02-20-2018, 08:55 AM   #48
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This is a constitutional issue that should be treated as such, of course. But they are children who've been through something extremely evil, tragic, and traumatic. They are going to express grief and rage at what happened. I think it's reasonable to cut them some slack.
No doubt, thats why I said I feel for them.

They are being used as political pawns and its pretty depressing to watch.
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Old 02-20-2018, 08:57 AM   #49
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No doubt, thats why I said I feel for them.

They are being used as political pawns and its pretty depressing to watch.
It's also sad that they've been programmed to be socialist tools.
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Old 02-20-2018, 08:58 AM   #50
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This is a constitutional issue that should be treated as such, of course. But they are children who've been through something extremely evil, tragic, and traumatic. They are going to express grief and rage at what happened. I think it's reasonable to cut them some slack.
I have plenty of 'slack' for emotive expressions, even ones with catastrophic consequences. Traumatized people deserve room to vent.

That is completely different from affording their demands heightened validity on the rationale that their passion has granted them insight.
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Old 02-20-2018, 09:00 AM   #51
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I realize this is scream fodder for the internet, but after what happened with newtown, I think everyone knew that some alex jones/conspiracy types were going to say it was a false flag or fake or some other type of conspiracy. Literally nothing can happen any more that won't result in a conspiracy theory that a few people will be taken in by - typically the same people who are taken in by every other conspiracy theory. It doesn't mean that this is a widespread belief. Obviously it's not.

And we see Poe's Law played out in living color in all these situations, where it's usually difficult or impossible to know if the people posting such things are true believers, activists not letting a crisis go to waste, or just trolls stirring the pot.
Usually true. But this wasn't from Alex Jones.

And Donald Trump Jr is retweeting these attacks.
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It's also sad that they've been programmed to be socialist tools.
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Old 02-20-2018, 09:01 AM   #53
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Old 02-20-2018, 09:02 AM   #54
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No doubt, thats why I said I feel for them.

They are being used as political pawns and its pretty depressing to watch.
No, they aren't.

Its sad that your chosen news station can convince you to view teenage kids who survived a massacre is such terms.
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Old 02-20-2018, 09:03 AM   #56
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I have plenty of 'slack' for emotive expressions, even ones with catastrophic consequences. Traumatized people deserve room to vent.

That is completely different from affording their demands heightened validity on the rationale that their passion has granted them insight.
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Old 02-20-2018, 09:06 AM   #57
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I have plenty of 'slack' for emotive expressions, even ones with catastrophic consequences. Traumatized people deserve room to vent.

That is completely different from affording their demands heightened validity on the rationale that their passion has granted them insight.
As usual, babble lee isn't addressing the actual issue, but rather inventing something to attack.

At no point has anyone said anything about "granting them insight" or that their concerns are "heightened validity".

What is being said is that these kids are being attacked as pawns or some group of indoctrination, which isn't even close to reality.

When you want to talk about the purpose of the thread - far right wing websites inventing conspiracy theories and attacking teenage victims - feel free.

Or just keep making stuff up. Its what you do best.
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Old 02-20-2018, 09:15 AM   #58
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As usual, babble lee isn't addressing the actual issue, but rather inventing something to attack.

At no point has anyone said anything about "granting them insight" or that their concerns are "heightened validity".

What is being said is that these kids are being attacked as pawns or some group of indoctrination, which isn't even close to reality.

When you want to talk about the purpose of the thread - far right wing websites inventing conspiracy theories and attacking teenage victims - feel free.

Or just keep making stuff up. Its what you do best.
Horse shit, troll.

You keep stating that people are 'attacking victims' in an attempt to create ambiguity as to what is being scrutinized or why.

No one is randomly 'attacking' individuals for being attacked.

They are examining their demands and the possible origin or basis for those demands. And in light of that examination, what level of credence and gravity to give their demands.

I am perfectly content to be transparent and honest about both what is happening regarding the subject of this thread, and my own rationale and basis for my own opinions on the matter of Constitutional Rights.

You're the one trying to cloud the matter with inflammatory and misleading phrasing.
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Old 02-20-2018, 09:17 AM   #59
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Why are these kids off limits?


One more time: when you step into the political ring, expect to take rapid fire. No matter what side you're on. Haven't you learned this yet?
They are kids. Let them say what they want. They went through a horrific event.

Nobody listens to them anyway.
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Old 02-20-2018, 09:18 AM   #60
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This is a constitutional issue that should be treated as such, of course. But they are children who've been through something extremely evil, tragic, and traumatic. They are going to express grief and rage at what happened. I think it's reasonable to cut them some slack.

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