You gotta love Greg Anderson

BIG_DADDY · 07-26-2006, 03:12 PM

Out of this whole steroid/MLB mess he is one of the very few I have respect for at this point. Tell the Grand Jury to go **** themselves Greg.

http://sports.iwon.com/news/07262006...=home&SEC=news

Bonds' Trainer Set to Appear Before Grand Jury, But Not Expected to Talk
Jul 26, 3:36 PM (ET) Email this Story

By PAUL ELIAS and DAVID KRAVETS
SAN FRANCISCO (AP) - Lawyers for Barry Bonds' personal trainer say he'd rather go back to prison for a third time than take part in the grand jury investigation of his childhood friend for tax evasion and perjury.

Fresh off a 15-day jail term for refusing to cooperate in an earlier phase of the probe, Greg Anderson is expected to be called Thursday before a new grand jury investigating the San Francisco Giants slugger. But the trainer is expected to renew his vow of silence.

"He's resigned to do whatever it takes to maintain his integrity," said Paula Canny, an attorney and close friend of Anderson.

Anderson was released from prison last week on the same day prosecutors announced a grand jury investigating Bonds had expired without issuing an indictment. The new grand jury quickly was assembled, and Anderson received what was believed to be the first subpoena - ordering him to appear before the panel on Thursday.

If he again refuses to testify, he'll be hauled in front of a federal judge who will demand to know why he should be excused from testifying to a grand jury, a requirement even the president of the United States has to honor.

Since Anderson's legal arguments remain largely the same, the judge likely will send the trainer back to prison. It would be his third trip to a federal lockup in less than a year; Anderson served three months after pleading guilty to steroid distribution and money laundering stemming from the government's investigation of the Bay Area lab that allegedly supplied Bonds and other elite athletes with performance-enhancing drugs.

Authorities are investigating whether Bonds lied under oath when he told an earlier grand jury he didn't know whether the substances given to him by Anderson were steroids. The probe also reportedly is focused on whether Bonds paid taxes on the sale of hundreds of thousands of dollars worth of sports memorabilia.

Bonds' attorney, Michael Rains, says his client is guilty of nothing more than being famous.

"They're harassing Greg Anderson to get to Barry," Rains said.

Some legal experts see Anderson as the key to proving the perjury allegations, since Bonds reportedly testified the trainer gave him two substances that fit the description of "the cream" and "the clear" - two performance-enhancing drugs linked to the Bay Area Laboratory Co-Operative.

In 2003, Bonds reportedly testified to the grand jury investigating BALCO that he believed the substances were flaxseed oil and arthritis balm, not steroids.

Anderson also could offer insight into the doping calendars bearing Bonds' name that were seized when federal agents raided Anderson's house, according to court papers connected to the steroids probe.

But Anderson's lawyers say he shouldn't have to testify because of the numerous leaks of secret grand jury testimony to the San Francisco Chronicle over the course of the four-year investigation. Chronicle reporters Lance Williams and Mark Fainaru-Wada have written a book based largely on leaked testimony.

"The gross, callous and destructive breaches of grand jury secrecy in this case create ample just cause for Mr. Anderson's refusal to testify," said one of Anderson's attorneys, Mark Geragos.

His lawyers also say the agreement he made with prosecutors to plead guilty last year in the BALCO case stipulated he wouldn't have to cooperate in the investigation.

"The government is violating the terms of the plea bargain," Canny said.

Anderson also claims he should not have to testify because he was the target of an illegal wiretap.

The new grand jury ordering Anderson's testimony can stay in session for as long as 18 months. By law, an intransigent Anderson can be locked up for the grand jury's full term, though a judge can free him sooner if convinced Anderson never will talk.

BIG_DADDY · 07-26-2006, 03:59 PM

Come on guys I mean you may not agree with how he got here but he sure has handled it better than the rest of these clowns.

hawkchief · 07-26-2006, 04:35 PM

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Originally Posted by BIG_DADDY

Come on guys I mean you may not agree with how he got here but he sure has handled it better than the rest of these clowns.

Not sure how you consider keeping mum so Bonds can skate, hiding the truth and fuc&ing with our legal system is a way of "handling it well". Let's see how long he lasts in jail when the big boys start ripping him a new one nightly. I suspect Bonds has promised him a boatload of $$ when he gets out, to be a prison biotch for a couple of years.

BIG_DADDY · 07-26-2006, 04:43 PM

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Originally Posted by hawkchief

Not sure how you consider keeping mum so Bonds can skate, hiding the truth and fuc&ing with our legal system is a way of "handling it well". Let's see how long he lasts in jail when the big boys start ripping him a new one nightly. I suspect Bonds has promised him a boatload of $$ when he gets out, to be a prison biotch for a couple of years.

1. The government shouldn't even be involved in sports period. For some reason we are growing used to a HUGE government that wants to micrmanage the entire population.

2. We are already raising a country full of snitches. If snitching is ****ing up the legal system then so be it. Besides this guy has no reason to believe anything coming from the grand jury as they have done nothing but lie to the guy right from the start.

3. The tax evasion charge is complete BS.

This case has become so ridiculous that it's becoming embarrassment at this point. They have spent a fortune and accomplished jack shit. The government should stick to running the country.

hawkchief · 07-26-2006, 04:53 PM

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Originally Posted by BIG_DADDY

1. The government shouldn't even be involved in sports period. For some reason we are growing used to a HUGE government that wants to micrmanage the entire population.

2. We are already raising a country full of snitches. If snitching is ****ing up the legal system then so be it. Besides this guy has no reason to believe anything coming from the grand jury as they have done nothing but lie to the guy right from the start.

3. The tax evasion charge is complete BS.

This case has become so ridiculous that it's becoming embarrassment at this point. They have spent a fortune and accomplished jack shit. The government should stick to running the country.

When a bunch of spoiled millionaire owners and player agents decide to turn a sport (that used to be our national pastime) into a corrupt, deceitful business that turns its head to, and essentially encourages, the usage of illegal, banned substances whose usage in turn encourages American youth to use steroids, all for the sake of $$$, IMO our government should get involved - and in a hurry.

Since when did telling the truth regarding whether or not you supplied illegal, banned substances to someone come to be considered "snitching".

Bonds is a lying cheat and IMO he deserves whatever he gets. Sadly, the owners and agents that let this stuff go on for far too long will probably walk, unscathed.

BIG_DADDY · 07-26-2006, 04:55 PM

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Originally Posted by hawkchief

When a bunch of spoiled millionaire owners and player agents decide to turn a sport (that used to be our national pastime) into a corrupt, deceitful business that turns its head to and essentially encourages, the usage of illegal, banned substances whose usage in turn encourages American youth to use steroids, all for the sake of $$$, IMO our government should get involved - and in a hurry.

Since when did telling the truth regarding whether or not you supplied illegal, banned substances to someone is not "snitching".

Bonds is a lying cheat and IMO he deserves whatever he gets. Sadly, the owners and agents that let this stuff go on for far too long will probably walk, unscathed.

You can't be serious. WOW, I'll just leave it at that.

burt · 07-26-2006, 05:24 PM

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Originally Posted by hawkchief

When a bunch of spoiled millionaire owners and player agents decide to turn a sport (that used to be our national pastime) into a corrupt, deceitful business that turns its head to, and essentially encourages, the usage of illegal, banned substances whose usage in turn encourages American youth to use steroids, all for the sake of $$$, IMO our government should get involved - and in a hurry.

Yeah, it's ALL Bonds' fault...let's persecute him!!! It's so many peoples fault that persecuting Bonds is assinine. Persecute Steinbrenner...A-rod...Sossa......McGuire..... No we will persecute Bonds...not because he did steriods like many....not because he lied....because he's an asshole.

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Originally Posted by hawkchief

Since when did telling the truth regarding whether or not you supplied illegal, banned substances to someone come to be considered "snitching".

I pea the fifth...

Quote:

Originally Posted by hawkchief

Bonds is a lying cheat and IMO he deserves whatever he gets. Sadly, the owners and agents that let this stuff go on for far too long will probably walk, unscathed.

Sossa .....McGuire...Palmero..... nah, lets go after the unsociable asshole....... Hell, that will cure baseball and "the American Pastime".

Mojo Rising · 07-26-2006, 06:29 PM

[QUOTE=BIG_DADDY]
2. We are already raising a country full of snitches. If snitching is ****ing up the legal system then so be it. Besides this guy has no reason to believe anything coming from the grand jury as they have done nothing but lie to the guy right from the start.

QUOTE]

So I guess we'll expect to see Barry next to 'Melo in the next street video where they threaten to kill snitches.

They are going after Barry on a witchhunt and I love. It couldn't happen to a more deserving person.

The purgery probably won't stick. Tax evasion is a different case though. He will serve time for that. He should have just backed-off the record and all of this would have gone away.

I love it. It's almost like the feds are defending Hammering Hanks record!

burt · 07-26-2006, 07:01 PM

[QUOTE=Mojo Rising]

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Originally Posted by BIG_DADDY

2. We are already raising a country full of snitches. If snitching is ****ing up the legal system then so be it. Besides this guy has no reason to believe anything coming from the grand jury as they have done nothing but lie to the guy right from the start.

QUOTE]

So I guess we'll expect to see Barry next to 'Melo in the next street video where they threaten to kill snitches.

They are going after Barry on a witchhunt and I love. It couldn't happen to a more deserving person.

The purgery probably won't stick. Tax evasion is a different case though. He will serve time for that. He should have just backed-off the record and all of this would have gone away.

I love it. It's almost like the feds are defending Hammering Hanks record!

'zactly....

burt · 07-26-2006, 04:37 PM

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Originally Posted by BIG_DADDY

Come on guys I mean you may not agree with how he got here but he sure has handled it better than the rest of these clowns.

He just learned from Clinton's "It depends on what your definition of 'is' is...."

BIG_DADDY · 07-26-2006, 04:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Dale Mercer

He just learned from Clinton's "It depends on what your definition of 'is' is...."

Better yet he is basically just telling them to **** off at this point. Hell I would send him a check myself if he would just tell them their a bunch of losers wasting taxpayers money with this witch hunt.

teedubya · 07-26-2006, 05:21 PM

Why dont they go after Rafeal Palmeiro? He blatantly DENIED allegations of doing steroids... what did he test positive for?

What has Bonds tested positive for? Nothing.

mikey23545 · 07-26-2006, 06:23 PM

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Originally Posted by BIG_DADDY

"He's resigned to do whatever it takes to maintain his integrity," said Paula Canny, an attorney and close friend of Anderson.

Delicious irony!

DomerNKC · 07-26-2006, 10:43 PM

palmeiro is no longer playing.

burt · 07-26-2006, 10:48 PM

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Originally Posted by DomerNKC

palmeiro is no longer playing.

Way understood, but he is still the only one between him Bonds and Sossa that has been proven a criminal...therefore HE should be the target...not the "probable" Bonds.

07-26-2006, 03:12 PM	Topic Starter
BIG_DADDY THE RED MENACE Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Texas Casino cash: $5138410	You gotta love Greg Anderson Out of this whole steroid/MLB mess he is one of the very few I have respect for at this point. Tell the Grand Jury to go **** themselves Greg. http://sports.iwon.com/news/07262006...=home&SEC=news Bonds' Trainer Set to Appear Before Grand Jury, But Not Expected to Talk Jul 26, 3:36 PM (ET) Email this Story By PAUL ELIAS and DAVID KRAVETS SAN FRANCISCO (AP) - Lawyers for Barry Bonds' personal trainer say he'd rather go back to prison for a third time than take part in the grand jury investigation of his childhood friend for tax evasion and perjury. Fresh off a 15-day jail term for refusing to cooperate in an earlier phase of the probe, Greg Anderson is expected to be called Thursday before a new grand jury investigating the San Francisco Giants slugger. But the trainer is expected to renew his vow of silence. "He's resigned to do whatever it takes to maintain his integrity," said Paula Canny, an attorney and close friend of Anderson. Anderson was released from prison last week on the same day prosecutors announced a grand jury investigating Bonds had expired without issuing an indictment. The new grand jury quickly was assembled, and Anderson received what was believed to be the first subpoena - ordering him to appear before the panel on Thursday. If he again refuses to testify, he'll be hauled in front of a federal judge who will demand to know why he should be excused from testifying to a grand jury, a requirement even the president of the United States has to honor. Since Anderson's legal arguments remain largely the same, the judge likely will send the trainer back to prison. It would be his third trip to a federal lockup in less than a year; Anderson served three months after pleading guilty to steroid distribution and money laundering stemming from the government's investigation of the Bay Area lab that allegedly supplied Bonds and other elite athletes with performance-enhancing drugs. Authorities are investigating whether Bonds lied under oath when he told an earlier grand jury he didn't know whether the substances given to him by Anderson were steroids. The probe also reportedly is focused on whether Bonds paid taxes on the sale of hundreds of thousands of dollars worth of sports memorabilia. Bonds' attorney, Michael Rains, says his client is guilty of nothing more than being famous. "They're harassing Greg Anderson to get to Barry," Rains said. Some legal experts see Anderson as the key to proving the perjury allegations, since Bonds reportedly testified the trainer gave him two substances that fit the description of "the cream" and "the clear" - two performance-enhancing drugs linked to the Bay Area Laboratory Co-Operative. In 2003, Bonds reportedly testified to the grand jury investigating BALCO that he believed the substances were flaxseed oil and arthritis balm, not steroids. Anderson also could offer insight into the doping calendars bearing Bonds' name that were seized when federal agents raided Anderson's house, according to court papers connected to the steroids probe. But Anderson's lawyers say he shouldn't have to testify because of the numerous leaks of secret grand jury testimony to the San Francisco Chronicle over the course of the four-year investigation. Chronicle reporters Lance Williams and Mark Fainaru-Wada have written a book based largely on leaked testimony. "The gross, callous and destructive breaches of grand jury secrecy in this case create ample just cause for Mr. Anderson's refusal to testify," said one of Anderson's attorneys, Mark Geragos. His lawyers also say the agreement he made with prosecutors to plead guilty last year in the BALCO case stipulated he wouldn't have to cooperate in the investigation. "The government is violating the terms of the plea bargain," Canny said. Anderson also claims he should not have to testify because he was the target of an illegal wiretap. The new grand jury ordering Anderson's testimony can stay in session for as long as 18 months. By law, an intransigent Anderson can be locked up for the grand jury's full term, though a judge can free him sooner if convinced Anderson never will talk.
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07-26-2006, 03:59 PM	#2
BIG_DADDY THE RED MENACE Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Texas Casino cash: $5138410	Come on guys I mean you may not agree with how he got here but he sure has handled it better than the rest of these clowns. __________________ The diabolical genius of Marxism-Socialism is that it provides the emotional and intellectual road map for autocrats to persuade millions of people to support their own enslavement to government. ~Mark Levin April 15, 2019
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07-26-2006, 06:29 PM	#8
Mojo Rising Veteran Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: OC Casino cash: $10009560	[QUOTE=BIG_DADDY] 2. We are already raising a country full of snitches. If snitching is ****ing up the legal system then so be it. Besides this guy has no reason to believe anything coming from the grand jury as they have done nothing but lie to the guy right from the start. QUOTE] So I guess we'll expect to see Barry next to 'Melo in the next street video where they threaten to kill snitches. They are going after Barry on a witchhunt and I love. It couldn't happen to a more deserving person. The purgery probably won't stick. Tax evasion is a different case though. He will serve time for that. He should have just backed-off the record and all of this would have gone away. I love it. It's almost like the feds are defending Hammering Hanks record!
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07-26-2006, 05:21 PM	#12
teedubya Most Valuable Poster Join Date: Oct 2003 Casino cash: $9490002	Why dont they go after Rafeal Palmeiro? He blatantly DENIED allegations of doing steroids... what did he test positive for? What has Bonds tested positive for? Nothing.
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07-26-2006, 10:43 PM	#14
DomerNKC In Search of a Life Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Topeka Casino cash: $9995110	palmeiro is no longer playing. __________________ Behold the bitten apple, the power of the tools, but all the knowledge in the world is of no use to fools.
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