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Old 08-29-2005, 12:54 PM  
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Keep F-in Doubting Priest Holmes!!!
The guy makes a livin proving people wrong. All this LJ hype this year further convinces me that he is gonna go OFF!!!
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Old 08-29-2005, 11:18 PM   #61
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Unlike goatcheeze, I'm not worried about Priest's preseason performance/lack thereof. For me it's simply an age/ can he stay healthy if DV starts riding him thing. If DV starts relying on Priest as his security blankie and Priest goes down, then what? I think Priest IS that important to this team, that's why I want the ball in LJ's hands when it doesn't NEED to be in Priest's.
We don't know what they are going to do yet, I'm excited about the possibilities that are in Al's capable hands.
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Old 08-29-2005, 11:22 PM   #62
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Something that worries me is the way Holmes goes about his running from the start of a game to the end. It always seems like he gets off to an average or even slow start but as the game progresses he gets better. Finally when the 4th rolls around he is in such a groove and has them so worn down he dominates. He has shown a history of this.

Will more carries by LJ hurt this? Hopefully it is more of a matter of how the other team was being worn down phsyically. LJ would no doubt add to that and all of this would be a non issue.

But if its a rhythm thing...it could be rough and tumble for Priest.
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Old 08-29-2005, 11:23 PM   #63
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Finally when the 4th rolls around he is in such a groove and has them so worn down he dominates. He has shown a history of this.
Actually, it's the exact opposite. Especially last year.
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Old 08-29-2005, 11:27 PM   #64
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I think you guys are making a big deal out of nothing. Priest is a class act, and if it was time to walk away he would be the first to step down. He is going to have a monster year, and all, these stupid threads will be forgotton.
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Old 08-29-2005, 11:36 PM   #65
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So what will gochiefs do when Priest is league MVP? Or more succinctly, what should WE do to HIM?



sure as hell can't ban him, that works as well as a screen door on a submarine.....


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Old 08-29-2005, 11:40 PM   #66
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He would have a boner over Dee Brown if he got the perfect blocks and ran 97 yards too. Then the Dump Priest bring on Brown threads would be running wild.
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Old 08-29-2005, 11:43 PM   #67
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He would have a boner over Dee Brown if he got the perfect blocks and ran 97 yards too. Then the Dump Priest bring on Brown threads would be running wild.
Don't go there. Dee Brown didn't score 11 TDs last year.
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Old 08-29-2005, 11:46 PM   #68
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He would have a boner over Dee Brown if he got the perfect blocks and ran 97 yards too. Then the Dump Priest bring on Brown threads would be running wild.
Coming from you, I'm sure he's real offended.......

The most positive thing from all of this is simply that, I don't think Holmes could make it through the year taking all the carries again. Aslong as they don't piss Larry off, everything is going to be fine. I don't want us to be stuck with no RB in 2 years.
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Old 08-30-2005, 12:04 AM   #69
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As long as they don't piss LJ off-nice comment-like he is the star of the team now. They will use him in mop up duty in the second half, after we get a lead to run the clock. LJ wants to hit someone-let him, we need a bulldozer to keep smashing the defense, while our own D gets to rest on the sideline. They way he has been playing I don't see why he can't get 80 to 100 yards the second half of the game. But Priest will be the starter-and that is the way it should be.
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Old 08-30-2005, 12:07 AM   #70
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Like I said, I hope I'm wrong. I hope Priest makes me out to be the stupidest mother****er south of Kansas City.
i didn't know you needed any help...
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Old 08-30-2005, 12:10 AM   #71
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Yea, let's fully piss LJ off so he doesn't want to be here anymore. That's a great F'N idea man. I don't know about anyone else, but I'd rather not go back to the RB days before Vermiel got here.

All they have to do is split them 60/40, and everything should be fine. The idea of not playing Johnson in the first half at all is really stupid. Right now, I'm all for the Chiefs running the ball more and passing less to get both RB's more touches, and keeping the defense off the field.

Mark my words, If we piss off LJ, we'll live to regret doing it. I don't want to be here in 2 years talking about how Priest Holmes retired and Larry Johnson has left in free agency.
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Old 08-30-2005, 12:21 AM   #72
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I think it's going to be tough to sign LJ anyway if Al's the head coach considering neither guy seems to like the other at all. Which is a tough call.... I wouldn't be opposed to Al being the coach, even though I think he has some Martz-like tendencies on gameday, but Carl and LJ might have different things to say about it. I guess it's a good thing him and Carl seem to get along, because I think if LJ keeps up at this pace and becomes a monster, he's probably gonna want a very, very large signing bonus, $20-30 million maybe? He's probably not going to play for relative peanuts like Priest and Trent do.
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Old 08-30-2005, 02:04 AM   #73
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He's probably not going to play for relative peanuts like Priest and Trent do.
I don't know, I don't remember a "I don't make enough" bitch out of LJ. All I've heard is "I'm good enough to be a starter and damnit I want to be one." Give him the reigns and he might handle a less than enormous contract. Of course if he turns out to be that good then why shouldn't he get it? Truth be told he should probably bail because I think we may be hit by the salary cap bug after this season or next. I'm no cap master but I have to think Carl is betting a significant portion of the farm on this season.
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Lets try to remember who the majority of those TDs that Johnson scored last year came against shall we?

Raiders twice, Titans, and Broncos.

He had a good game against the Broncos who usually have a good defense, but those other three games? Gimme a break. The Raiders and Titans defenses were pure crap. My f'in grandma could have put up 100+ yards on those run defenses.

Not to mention that the immortal Larry Johnson failed to reach 100 rushing yards against the San Diego Chargers JV squad in the final game of the year.


L.J. shows some good promise, especially with his breakaway speed to take it the distance from anywhere on the field, but eh, this talk about how Holmes is done due to age is complete and total BS. If it were anyone other that gochiefs posting this bile, Id probably be worried.

I think Johnson should get his carries in the game to take some of the load off of Holmes, but Holmes is clearly still the man you go with when the chips are down. He's proven.

If the game is on the line, I want Priest Holmes in the backfield. No question about it. Then I want the offensive coordinator to be smart enough to take his head out of his ass and give him the goddamned football.

Like in that article about how Priest tried to run down Marcus Coleman when he picked off the pass and ran it back for a TD. If Al had given Holmes the ball, at the TWO FREAKIN YARD LINE, he wouldnt have had to been chasing down Marcus Coleman.

That has always bugged me, and will always bug me. 2 yards away. Best offensive line in football, best single season TD scorer the game has ever seen.

Hmmm. Let me think.....

Pass.

WHAT THE MOTHER **** IS UP WITH THAT?

Especially in that game, Priest was KILLING the Texans. I guess its a little harder to be in the "Offensive genius" category if you just hand the ball to your awesome running back for the first down, or for the scores. You have to get creative, and try to get the first downs and scores the hard way for that moniker I guess.


I dont know how many dropped passes on 3rd and 1 or 2 we will have to suffer through this season due to this BS, but I hope its not as many as last year.

As awesome as this offense was last year, just imagine how much better it would have been if they would have just handed the ball off for the 1 and 2 yard first down instead of throwing some pass that gets batted down or dropped.


For that reason alone, I dont want to see Al Saunders as the Head Coach of the Chiefs. He will become another Mike Martz, who passes the ball 55 times a game, and cant figure out how his offense that used to be so great, now sucks.
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