Movies and TV Movies - Page 294

irishjayhawk · 10-13-2007, 11:31 PM

Yeah, so I saw a lot of movies this weekend.

Elizabeth: The Golden Age - Mediocre, at best. Slow and dragged on. Shorten it to 2 hours and it's golden. It's not, so it fails.

Michael Clayton - Amazing. Everything about it is awesome. However, it's VERY complex and mind bending. You have to think, so be prepared. I still feel like I'm missing key details of exactly what happened. Gotta see it again.

Across the Universe - Perfect is one word that comes to mind. It just works. And, contrary to many people I bet, the movie is best viewed sober. Trust me.

**Buehler445** · 02-23-2010, 06:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Reaper16

Tarantino shows his influences on his sleeve, sure. But hack is way too strong for me. I mean, Inglorious Basterds is a tremendous artistic achievement. I'd vote for Tarantino for this year's Best Director Oscar over Kathryne Bigelow.

Aronofsky, well, I can see indulgent when talking about The Fountain. His other three films are pretty damn nice from the director's chair. I really, really disagree with you about The Wrestler; I find it to be a tremendous work of art. That film is the ****ing American story.

I mentioned Soderbergh not for his money-making Hollywood films. Allow me a quick simile: I put up with the ubiquitousness of Boulevard's Unfiltered Wheat Beer because it pays the bills, allowing Boulevard to brew the Smokestack Series. In the same way Soderbergh makes fare like the Oceans franchise so that he can make better, more creative films like Traffic, Bubble, Che or The Girlfriend Experience. He's unafraid to change up his styles or to take large risks. He's unafraid to fail, which is commendable.

Amazing.

phisherman · 02-23-2010, 06:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Fire Me Boy!

at the pissing contest about who's more critical of movies.

Come on.... it's easy. phisherman took a bunch of film classes in college.

i'd quote a line from tommy boy right now but...

film classes don't make me an expert by any means, but they did make me watch movies in a more critical manner. we didn't just watch all artsy fartsy foreign films either; shit, we watched dirty harry and easy rider in one of them.

this isn't about who is more critical really. i don't care about ranking myself or being seen as some kind of movie guru. but i do however, have strong opinions about film based on years and years of watching both foreign and domestic, commercial and independent, cheap and expensive, old and new, good and very crappy movies. i'll debate them with anyone.

reaper, sorry man, the Wrestler just didn't do it for me. it was ok, but nothing groundbreaking. how about we discuss something older than the last few years, soderbergh references withstanding?

**Fire Me Boy!** · 02-23-2010, 06:57 AM

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Originally Posted by phisherman

film classes don't make me an expert by any means, but they did make me watch movies in a more critical manner. we didn't just watch all artsy fartsy foreign films either; shit, we watched dirty harry and easy rider in one of them.

You're reference to Tommy Boy is completely lost on me. I saw the movie once. That was plenty for me.

I know what film classes are all about. I have a degree in film.

That whole back and forth between you two was cracking my shit up.

phisherman · 02-23-2010, 07:39 AM

not really a pissing contest for me, though it is fun to get reaper started on his compulsive quest to be considered the most knowledgeable on every subject.

patteeu · 02-23-2010, 07:58 AM

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Originally Posted by phisherman

i'd quote a line from tommy boy right now but...

film classes don't make me an expert by any means, but they did make me watch movies in a more critical manner. we didn't just watch all artsy fartsy foreign films either; shit, we watched dirty harry and easy rider in one of them.

this isn't about who is more critical really. i don't care about ranking myself or being seen as some kind of movie guru. but i do however, have strong opinions about film based on years and years of watching both foreign and domestic, commercial and independent, cheap and expensive, old and new, good and very crappy movies. i'll debate them with anyone.

reaper, sorry man, the Wrestler just didn't do it for me. it was ok, but nothing groundbreaking. how about we discuss something older than the last few years, soderbergh references withstanding?

You don't need to apologize to Reaper16. You've probably forgotten more about film than he'll ever know. He just liked The Wrestler because it had a bunch of bulked up men in tights, which to him is the epitome of "the ****ing American story".

phisherman · 02-23-2010, 08:03 AM

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Originally Posted by patteeu

You don't need to apologize to Reaper16. You've probably forgotten more about film than he'll ever know. He just liked The Wrestler because it had a bunch of bulked up men in tights, which to him is the epitome of "the ****ing American story".

rep

Miles · 02-23-2010, 08:10 AM

Do I lose Reaper snob points if I also agree that The Wrestler was very mediocre outside of one outstanding acting performance?

phisherman · 02-23-2010, 08:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Miles

Do I lose Reaper snob points if I also agree that The Wrestler was very mediocre outside of one outstanding acting performance?

yep, just like i apparently did.

**Fire Me Boy!** · 02-23-2010, 08:19 AM

I actually thought The Wrestler was outstanding, primarily for Rourke's performance (and Marisa Tomei being naked 90 percent of the time didn't hurt).

Miles · 02-23-2010, 08:23 AM

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Originally Posted by luv

True, but I often watch movies in order to "escape" reality. When escaping reality, I tend to not feel like looking into things that deeply. The book is typically always better, so I leave my deep thinking and creativity for when I read.

I would compare watching many of the Euro classics with reading literature. Takes some effort to digest but equally rewarding.

**Reaper16** · 02-23-2010, 09:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Fire Me Boy!

at the pissing contest about who's more critical of movies.

Come on.... it's easy. phisherman took a bunch of film classes in college.

I thought phisherman and I were just talking about movies. Please join in if you'd like.

**Reaper16** · 02-23-2010, 09:45 AM

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Originally Posted by phisherman

not really a pissing contest for me, though it is fun to get reaper started on his compulsive quest to be considered the most knowledgeable on every subject.

Or... maybe I was the only one that thought we were just talking about movies. Well, that was nice even though it didn't last long.

phisherman · 02-23-2010, 09:47 AM

i'm just busting your chops man.

i also thought that we were just discussing movies. pissing contents tend to be a bit more contentious.

**Reaper16** · 02-23-2010, 09:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Miles

Do I lose Reaper snob points if I also agree that The Wrestler was very mediocre outside of one outstanding acting performance?

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Originally Posted by phisherman

yep, just like i apparently did.

No. I don't keep points. That is ridiculous. If someone has good reasons for the opinion they hold then I'm not going to think you're an idiot or anything.

I'm in no way disappointed with any disagreements phisherman and I have. I am pretty ****ing disappointed that the beginnings of a nice movie conversation between me and phisherman were apparently held under the ulterior motive of "getting me going."

phisherman · 02-23-2010, 09:50 AM

you shouldn't take that the wrong way, perhaps i used the wrong words. i enjoy the conversation.

you have good concise opinions that differ from mine. no biggie, i like the discourse.

besides, considering the "Reaper's Wheel of Snobbery" label, you should probably expect responses like the one from Miles. i'll admit, it made me chuckle.

10-13-2007, 11:31 PM
irishjayhawk Feelin' Alright Join Date: Aug 2004 Casino cash: $10004900	Movies Yeah, so I saw a lot of movies this weekend. Elizabeth: The Golden Age - Mediocre, at best. Slow and dragged on. Shorten it to 2 hours and it's golden. It's not, so it fails. Michael Clayton - Amazing. Everything about it is awesome. However, it's VERY complex and mind bending. You have to think, so be prepared. I still feel like I'm missing key details of exactly what happened. Gotta see it again. Across the Universe - Perfect is one word that comes to mind. It just works. And, contrary to many people I bet, the movie is best viewed sober. Trust me.
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phisherman King Sandbagger Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: The Summit, MO Casino cash: $1705484	not really a pissing contest for me, though it is fun to get reaper started on his compulsive quest to be considered the most knowledgeable on every subject.
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Fire Me Boy! Cast Iron Jedi Join Date: Nov 2004 Casino cash: $9999900 VARSITY	I actually thought The Wrestler was outstanding, primarily for Rourke's performance (and Marisa Tomei being naked 90 percent of the time didn't hurt).
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phisherman King Sandbagger Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: The Summit, MO Casino cash: $1705484	i'm just busting your chops man. i also thought that we were just discussing movies. pissing contents tend to be a bit more contentious.
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02-23-2010, 09:50 AM	#4410
phisherman King Sandbagger Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: The Summit, MO Casino cash: $1705484	you shouldn't take that the wrong way, perhaps i used the wrong words. i enjoy the conversation. you have good concise opinions that differ from mine. no biggie, i like the discourse. besides, considering the "Reaper's Wheel of Snobbery" label, you should probably expect responses like the one from Miles. i'll admit, it made me chuckle.
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