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Old 01-31-2017, 09:01 PM  
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Woodworking

I don't recall seeing anything on here about the hobby. Do you do it? Have any interest? Tools? Have you made anything? Do you want to learn?

With the recent developments on the Planet, it got me thinking, what can I do to contribute and support the new effort?

I had no problem with any of the old guard and want to support the effort to make Chiefs Planet great again with the regime.


They aren't teaching vocational training in high school anymore, but maybe we can provide a venue here to learn woodworking?

There is a handyman mega thread, but this deserves it's own thread if we are going to accomplish something.

When I went to Junior high school we had woodworking class and I have always loved it. Finally, upon retirement, I have been able to set up a nice woodwork shop. I can go from station to station and perform the particular task, planing, jointer, sander, router table, radial arm, table and band saw.

I am currently on my fifth cedar chest this winter. Each one has gotten much easier as I have learned.

We have a cedar mill about ten miles away so it has been very instrumental in the effort as raw material is the main ingredient. It is dirt cheap at the mill and I have been buying 1.1 inch thick by 52 long by 4.25 wide boards and gluing them together.

What are you working on?
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Old 11-25-2017, 02:41 PM   #181
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Never found the need for a radial arm saw except for making wide cross-cuts that you'd find in a cabinet shop or making cutting boards. In a cab shop, you're probably investing in panel saws anyhow.

Having one in the home garage seems stupid to me. They are dangerous saws because of kickback and the blade exposure when using it to rip and the fact that they pull through wood in either cut. Remember, you're essentially turning a radial arm into a straight line rip less the anti-kickback fingers and guards. You're asking to lose your digits...

I think it's smarter to get a table saw and compound sliding miter unless you really know wtf you are doing with a radial arm. I think you'd spend your money more wisely investing in a jointer and a planer to expand capabilities, than waste money on a radial arm.

Whatever floats your boats.
I wanted a radial arm saw for finish cross cuts on the 16" and 20" glued together cedar panels, but the ones I could afford are junk. The good ones with enough travel for what I wanted to accomplish are expensive so I just use my Makita circular saw with a nice blade.
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Old 11-25-2017, 02:46 PM   #182
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I wanted a radial arm saw for finish cross cuts on the 16" and 20" glued together cedar panels, but the ones I could afford are junk. The good ones with enough travel for what I wanted to accomplish are expensive so I just use my Makita circular saw with a nice blade.
With a jig to keep the cut square, it's probably all you'd ever need. We had a big DeWalt in the shop and I bet we didn't use it more than 100 hours a year. Otherwise it sat collecting dust.
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Old 11-25-2017, 03:03 PM   #183
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Hemi, thought I'd add something... popped into my brain...

Have you thought about making a crosscut sled for a table saw? Might save you alot of time and headache with the circular.
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Old 11-25-2017, 04:22 PM   #184
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Hemi, thought I'd add something... popped into my brain...

Have you thought about making a crosscut sled for a table saw? Might save you alot of time and headache with the circular.
Great idea, I have no idea on how to do it though. Maybe I will google it.
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Old 11-25-2017, 07:57 PM   #185
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Great idea, I have no idea on how to do it though. Maybe I will google it.
Should be alot out there on it.

Give you an idea of the world I lived in...

Here's a Weinig Dimter OptiCut S700 in action for wide panel cutting:



Here's a Weinig Dimter OptiCut 350 in action for normal width cutting:



We also had alot of other Weinig machines... a BKS resaw, ProfiMat and UniMat moulders and such. We had Mereen Johnson 431 Gang Rip Saws, Doucet End Matcher/Even Ender, and then a Newman Rough Planer... If you ever want to get really into it and see the astronomical costs associated with a full millwork shop, just google some of that shit.
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Old 11-25-2017, 08:16 PM   #186
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Hell of a deal at Home Depot for the DW745 table saw and stand for 300.

Shit, their 10" miter saw is only 150
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Old 11-26-2017, 08:29 AM   #187
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Should be alot out there on it.

Give you an idea of the world I lived in...

Here's a Weinig Dimter OptiCut S700 in action for wide panel cutting:



Here's a Weinig Dimter OptiCut 350 in action for normal width cutting:



We also had alot of other Weinig machines... a BKS resaw, ProfiMat and UniMat moulders and such. We had Mereen Johnson 431 Gang Rip Saws, Doucet End Matcher/Even Ender, and then a Newman Rough Planer... If you ever want to get really into it and see the astronomical costs associated with a full millwork shop, just google some of that shit.
Very interesting. It is similar technology to what we had in the electronic manufacturing industry and a lot of our customers had in the metal industry.

We had pick and place machines that would place up to 70,000 components per hour on a smd circuit board. Millions of dollars on the production line.

What do they do with those good sections of wood, glue them back together?
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Old 11-26-2017, 08:33 AM   #188
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Hell of a deal at Home Depot for the DW745 table saw and stand for 300.

Shit, their 10" miter saw is only 150
I think that is about what the Mrs. gave for my miter saw there a few years ago. Came with a POS blade, once I put a good one on, it does a great job.
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Old 11-26-2017, 09:23 AM   #189
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I think that is about what the Mrs. gave for my miter saw there a few years ago. Came with a POS blade, once I put a good one on, it does a great job.
The 12" Dewalt miter I got 13 years ago when I started doing wood floors is still 100% accurate true with full power as the primary go-to. The ridged isn't bad, but it's heavier and a few little things annoy me.

A small 10" would be very handy. Is it time to add a 5th miter?
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Old 11-26-2017, 10:38 AM   #190
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The 12" Dewalt miter I got 13 years ago when I started doing wood floors is still 100% accurate true with full power as the primary go-to. The ridged isn't bad, but it's heavier and a few little things annoy me.

A small 10" would be very handy. Is it time to add a 5th miter?
I can see it in your business! Do you still have the guards on yours?

One of the best things I did was buy the Ryobi stand for mine, it was about $100. It sure makes working with long stuff easy, unlike before.

Mine is 10 inch, don't mean to be boasting here.
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Exactly! I have asked my grandsons and they say it is not offered anymore. What the ****?
This. I get that budgets are an issue, b/c as a country, our priorities are ****ed. I really think they could do a lot of good by offering a class where they mix math, physics and shop classes together. A more practical application of math/physics that could make shop class a lot more valuable.
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This. I get that budgets are an issue, b/c as a country, our priorities are ****ed. I really think they could do a lot of good by offering a class where they mix math, physics and shop classes together. A more practical application of math/physics that could make shop class a lot more valuable.
You make a great point. IIRC, my shop classes are mostly what triggered my interest in math way back in the day.

Your point just may be instrumental in helping the young men in the future get a more basic knowledge of math that will serve them well beyond shop related activities.

To be honest, I wasn't aware the lack of shop classes was primarily due to budgets. I just assumed it was the big private learning institutions such as DeVry lobbying and applying pressure for their financial gain.
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I can see it in your business! Do you still have the guards on yours?

One of the best things I did was buy the Ryobi stand for mine, it was about $100. It sure makes working with long stuff easy, unlike before.

Mine is 10 inch, don't mean to be boasting here.
A quick connect stand is a must.

10" is merely average on CP.
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This. I get that budgets are an issue, b/c as a country, our priorities are ****ed. I really think they could do a lot of good by offering a class where they mix math, physics and shop classes together. A more practical application of math/physics that could make shop class a lot more valuable.
A local school (not ours) couldn't find a shop teacher so they had an auction and sold all the tools.

That's insanity.
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Hemi, thought I'd add something... popped into my brain...

Have you thought about making a crosscut sled for a table saw? Might save you alot of time and headache with the circular.
Looks very doable, thanks kccrow! http://www.finewoodworking.com/2011/...-crosscut-sled



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