Chiefs With Sunday start for Chiefs, Quinn could reclaim his career. (KC Star) - Page 14

Marcellus · 10-10-2012, 07:45 PM

By ADAM TEICHER

The Kansas City Star

By all rights, it shouldn’t be this way for Brady Quinn. He’s 27 and in his sixth NFL season, so as a former first-round draft pick he should not only have a team to call his own but be comfortably rooted as its starting quarterback.
It hasn’t worked that way for Quinn. But he will get a chance, perhaps a last chance, to resurrect his long-stalled career on Sunday when he will make his first start in almost three years, this one for the Chiefs against the Buccaneers in Tampa.
Quarterback Matt Cassel has not been medically cleared to participate and did not practice Wednesday. Coach Romeo Crennel didn’t rule Cassel out of Sunday’s game, but given that the NFL demands caution with players who have suffered a concussion, as Cassel did last week, that appears to be a formality.
So the Chiefs will go with Quinn, who played for a handful of snaps in relief of the injured Cassel toward the end of last week’s game against Baltimore.
“This is his opportunity to reclaim his career,” said Shawn Zobel, who runs a draft website at DraftHeadquarters.com. Zobel thought enough of Quinn when he came out of Notre Dame in 2007 that he could have been the overall No. 1 pick.
“He’s only 27. So he’s got that going for him. When you think about it from that perspective, he’s younger than (Cleveland rookie quarterback) Brandon Weeden.”
Cassel was at the practice facility Wednesday, but only briefly. He did not attend practice.
“He came into the building today,” Crennel said. “He was not here long. Concussions, they want you to rest, take your time with it.
“He’s been getting a series of tests as it relates to the concussion and he’s been seeing the doctors. I think he’s getting better but you know the league is very serious and cautious about concussions and how about how to handle them so we have to follow procedures on that as we go forward.”
So the Chiefs will go with Quinn on Sunday. While that prospect doesn’t sound exciting to at least some NFL teams — in the past three years, Quinn has been discarded by the Browns, couldn’t get off the bench for the Broncos and not good enough to replace a struggling Cassel for the Chiefs — at one time it would have been.
He was a first-round pick in 2007 of the Browns, then coached by Crennel. He spent two seasons with Cleveland under Crennel, making only three starts, and one year after Crennel was fired, making nine starts.
He was then traded to Denver, where he spent two years buried on the bench behind Kyle Orton and Tim Tebow. He joined the Chiefs as a free agent this year. That’s hardly the career predicted for Quinn when he left Notre Dame.
“I know when I went into Notre Dame, they’d had a couple .500 seasons, or right about that, and I know that we went to two BCS games in the first two years that I was at Notre Dame and one of the main reasons was Brady Quinn,” said Kansas’ Charlie Weis, Quinn’s coach at the end of his Irish career. “And when he left, I told the people, the fans and everyone that you’re really going to miss this kid when he’s gone. And we went 3-9 the next year. So there’s a lot to say for what that kid did for Notre Dame when I was there. We won a lot of football games and he carried the torch. He was clearly the leader.”
Sunday’s game gives Quinn a chance to reestablish his career. Cassel left the lineup because of injury, but was playing so poorly that the Chiefs couldn’t afford to yank Quinn if he plays well during his trial as the starter.
But Quinn wouldn’t acknowledge that on Wednesday.
“There is no bigger picture,” he said. “Tampa is a good team. We’ve got a big challenge ahead of us. There’s no need for me or anyone else to be looking further than this week or even tomorrow’s preparation.”
Yet Quinn also admitted his emotions stirred when he replaced Cassel last week, the first time he’s played in the regular season since December 2009. He said he expected them to do so on Sunday as well.
Since he was Cleveland’s coach when Quinn was drafted, it’s reasonable to believe the quarterback is a favorite of Crennel’s. He didn’t sound on Wednesday as if he had a lot of confidence in Quinn.
“I hope the fact that he understands the offense and understands the system (means) he will be able to step in and be productive,” Crennel said. “He’s got some height, he’s got experience, he can throw the ball down the field, he can throw it intermediate. He has a good command of the offense. He knows what’s expected. He knows the calls and can get us into plays, out of plays.
“Now he has to go execute.” (Unlike CAssel?)

Quinn didn’t play at all as a rookie and started only three games the next season. He lost the rest of that season with a finger injury.
“He was a good talent coming out,” Crennel said. “There’s no doubt about it. He was a productive quarterback and had command of the offense that he ran up at Notre Dame and the weapons he had with him.
“When he got to us, we didn’t have quite as many weapons as he had there at Notre Dame and he was learning a new system and so he wasn’t quite as effective as he had been at Notre Dame. Then he got hurt also. That impacted his development. That made it tough to make a solid evaluation of him.”
Quinn remained with the Browns for one more year after Crennel was fired. His coordinator that season was Brian Daboll, now with the Chiefs. Daboll was unavailable for comment Wednesday but Crennel said, remarkably, that he never asked Daboll what he thought of Quinn before the Chiefs signed him.
The Chiefs are hopeful the Browns were wrong on giving up on Quinn so quickly.
“He was only there for three years,” Zobel said. “To me, when a guy gets drafted in the first round and didn’t play a down his first year and starts only three games his second year and then nine the next year, there’s no way to make a good evaluation on him. It just wasn’t a good mix of talent there. That wasn’t a great situation there.
“He never got a fair shake with the Browns. It never got off on the right foot. That’s not how a team should allow a young guy to develop. You should put him out there and let him take his lumps and learn from them. He never had that opportunity.”

Read more here: http://www.kansascity.com/2012/10/10...#storylink=cpy

The 2 bold parts just make you go WTF.

I know this has been discussed but considering how little time Quinn has had on the field why do so many people think he sucks?

**Rausch** · 10-11-2012, 07:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Deberg_1990

The irony of all this is if Quinn plays well and wins games, it almost certainly gurantees a Pioli extension.

Nope...

Chiefnj2 · 10-11-2012, 08:52 AM

"Quinn remained with the Browns for one more year after Crennel was fired. His coordinator that season was Brian Daboll, now with the Chiefs. Daboll was unavailable for comment Wednesday but Crennel said, remarkably, that he never asked Daboll what he thought of Quinn before the Chiefs signed him."

Amazing.

Beef Supreme · 10-11-2012, 08:54 AM

"With Sunday start for the Chiefs, Quinn could reclaim his career."

Yeah, and if a frog had wings, he wouldn't bump his ass a hoppin'.

**Rausch** · 10-11-2012, 08:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Chiefnj2

"Quinn remained with the Browns for one more year after Crennel was fired. His coordinator that season was Brian Daboll, now with the Chiefs. Daboll was unavailable for comment Wednesday but Crennel said, remarkably, that he never asked Daboll what he thought of Quinn before the Chiefs signed him."

Amazing.

Once the HC has filed the appropriate TPS reports and copied them in triplicate they can then be allowed to converse with other coordinators about personnel moves.

It's simple. It's all laid out in the contract Romeo signed.

In blood...

**The Franchise** · 10-11-2012, 09:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Deberg_1990

The irony of all this is if Quinn plays well and wins games, it almost certainly gurantees a Pioli extension.

How exactly? If Quinn comes in and lights it up....the ONLY THING that Pioli can hang his hat on is that he signed him.....and none of that matters because RAC wanted him.

If Quinn lights it up.....Pioli is gone because he repeatedly had Cassel out there sucking it up while Quinn was on the bench.

Pioli is gone no matter what happens.

**HemiEd** · 10-11-2012, 10:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Guru

I get why people want him to suck ass but we also need him to show he is better than cassel so cassel can FINALLY be dumped. Now, if Clark is going to clean house, then none of it matters. But if he is going to keep Pioli we need Quinn to perform better than Cassel.

I know I am going to get flamed for this, but I hope Quinn lites it up when he gets a chance to play, hopefully Sunday.

That should bench Cassel for good, but we have to remember Orton looked significantly better than Cassel last year and Pioli showed him the door for upstaging his boy.

I have ZERO faith that the team will ever draft a first round QB and develop him. It hasn't happened yet, almost like it is written into the teams bylaws.

saphojunkie · 10-11-2012, 10:21 AM

You assholes who called for Matt Cassel to be benched are going to get what you deserved. Quinn is going to come in and go .500.

Bye bye, Geno.

You couldn't just suffer with Cassel for one more measly season, go 1-15, and get a real QB?

Our best case scenario is now that Quinn wins the rest of our games, right up through the super bowl.

Our second best scenario is that he makes the rest of our 1-15 season at least entertaining.

ARROW2 · 10-11-2012, 10:26 AM

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Originally Posted by saphojunkie

You assholes who called for Matt Cassel to be benched are going to get what you deserved. Quinn is going to come in and go .500.

Bye bye, Geno.

You couldn't just suffer with Cassel for one more measly season, go 1-15, and get a real QB?

Our best case scenario is now that Quinn wins the rest of our games, right up through the super bowl.

Our second best scenario is that he makes the rest of our 1-15 season at least entertaining.

We gonna run the table now.....

whoman69 · 10-11-2012, 12:32 PM

Here is what I expect to happen. Quinn will be better in the passing game in being able to get the ball downfield. He is still going to be missing the throws he needs to make. If it can open up the field for the running game and lead to play action, the offense should look better. I expect around 55% completions and as many picks as TDs. If he is mediocre like that, does it put Cassel back on the field or does Stanzi get the next call?

OctoberFart · 10-11-2012, 12:39 PM

Quinn is god awful we all know this. I think this says more about how bad Stanzi is than anything because we all know how awful Quinn is and he can't beat him out.

GordonGekko · 10-11-2012, 12:43 PM

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Originally Posted by AutumnWind

Quinn is god awful we all know this. I think this says more about how bad Stanzi is than anything because we all know how awful Quinn is and he can't beat him out.

I think it says more about the abysmal qb situation in KC in general.

But hope is hope, and at the minimum it is making the season entertaining again and giving reason to watch.

ARROW2 · 10-11-2012, 12:44 PM

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Originally Posted by AutumnWind

Quinn is god awful we all know this. I think this says more about how bad Stanzi is than anything because we all know how awful Quinn is and he can't beat him out.

If that is true, then what does that make Cassel? Because he sure looked a helluva lot better throwing the ball than Matilda......Let's see how he does on a good team with weapons......and a defense like he has now before we blindly parrot what has been said over and over. Dude hasn't been given a legitimate chance. Seriously, how many Brady Quinn games have you watched before he got to KC? Oh, he did beat Cassel in 09 at Arrowhead...

beach tribe · 10-11-2012, 12:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Coogs

I know this will not be popular, but I hope if Quinn succeeds here, he really succeeds. I would love for this team to get on a roll. A big roll. Not a 6-10 type season, but 9-7 to even 10-6. It's a long shot, I know. But it has been done before.

I would be just as thrilled for a 27 year old Quinn as I would be many of the 1st round QB's comming out in this draft short of one... Geno Smith... but I don't see that happening.

Next best option for me behind Smith would be for Quinn to break out. Saw it many years ago with Len Dawson. Maybe time for history to repeat it self for the Chiefs.

I'm with you. The guy was very talented, and has played. 12 games. 12 GAMES!

There is no way to evaluate a QB on sample size that small. You just can't.
I know it's wishful thinking, but I'm wishing.

FringeNC · 10-11-2012, 12:55 PM

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His coordinator that season was Brian Daboll, now with the Chiefs. Daboll was unavailable for comment Wednesday but Crennel said, remarkably, that he never asked Daboll what he thought of Quinn before the Chiefs signed him.

That doesn't sound encouraging, for multiple reasons.

BoneKrusher · 10-12-2012, 08:20 AM

i hope Daboll lets Quinn throw the ball around because the run game will struggle against Tampa's front seven.

10-10-2012, 07:45 PM
Marcellus Diablo Negro Join Date: Sep 2003 Casino cash: $3172662	With Sunday start for Chiefs, Quinn could reclaim his career. (KC Star) By ADAM TEICHER The Kansas City Star By all rights, it shouldn’t be this way for Brady Quinn. He’s 27 and in his sixth NFL season, so as a former first-round draft pick he should not only have a team to call his own but be comfortably rooted as its starting quarterback. It hasn’t worked that way for Quinn. But he will get a chance, perhaps a last chance, to resurrect his long-stalled career on Sunday when he will make his first start in almost three years, this one for the Chiefs against the Buccaneers in Tampa. Quarterback Matt Cassel has not been medically cleared to participate and did not practice Wednesday. Coach Romeo Crennel didn’t rule Cassel out of Sunday’s game, but given that the NFL demands caution with players who have suffered a concussion, as Cassel did last week, that appears to be a formality. So the Chiefs will go with Quinn, who played for a handful of snaps in relief of the injured Cassel toward the end of last week’s game against Baltimore. “This is his opportunity to reclaim his career,” said Shawn Zobel, who runs a draft website at DraftHeadquarters.com. Zobel thought enough of Quinn when he came out of Notre Dame in 2007 that he could have been the overall No. 1 pick. “He’s only 27. So he’s got that going for him. When you think about it from that perspective, he’s younger than (Cleveland rookie quarterback) Brandon Weeden.” Cassel was at the practice facility Wednesday, but only briefly. He did not attend practice. “He came into the building today,” Crennel said. “He was not here long. Concussions, they want you to rest, take your time with it. “He’s been getting a series of tests as it relates to the concussion and he’s been seeing the doctors. I think he’s getting better but you know the league is very serious and cautious about concussions and how about how to handle them so we have to follow procedures on that as we go forward.” So the Chiefs will go with Quinn on Sunday. While that prospect doesn’t sound exciting to at least some NFL teams — in the past three years, Quinn has been discarded by the Browns, couldn’t get off the bench for the Broncos and not good enough to replace a struggling Cassel for the Chiefs — at one time it would have been. He was a first-round pick in 2007 of the Browns, then coached by Crennel. He spent two seasons with Cleveland under Crennel, making only three starts, and one year after Crennel was fired, making nine starts. He was then traded to Denver, where he spent two years buried on the bench behind Kyle Orton and Tim Tebow. He joined the Chiefs as a free agent this year. That’s hardly the career predicted for Quinn when he left Notre Dame. “I know when I went into Notre Dame, they’d had a couple .500 seasons, or right about that, and I know that we went to two BCS games in the first two years that I was at Notre Dame and one of the main reasons was Brady Quinn,” said Kansas’ Charlie Weis, Quinn’s coach at the end of his Irish career. “And when he left, I told the people, the fans and everyone that you’re really going to miss this kid when he’s gone. And we went 3-9 the next year. So there’s a lot to say for what that kid did for Notre Dame when I was there. We won a lot of football games and he carried the torch. He was clearly the leader.” Sunday’s game gives Quinn a chance to reestablish his career. Cassel left the lineup because of injury, but was playing so poorly that the Chiefs couldn’t afford to yank Quinn if he plays well during his trial as the starter. But Quinn wouldn’t acknowledge that on Wednesday. “There is no bigger picture,” he said. “Tampa is a good team. We’ve got a big challenge ahead of us. There’s no need for me or anyone else to be looking further than this week or even tomorrow’s preparation.” Yet Quinn also admitted his emotions stirred when he replaced Cassel last week, the first time he’s played in the regular season since December 2009. He said he expected them to do so on Sunday as well. Since he was Cleveland’s coach when Quinn was drafted, it’s reasonable to believe the quarterback is a favorite of Crennel’s. He didn’t sound on Wednesday as if he had a lot of confidence in Quinn. “I hope the fact that he understands the offense and understands the system (means) he will be able to step in and be productive,” Crennel said. “He’s got some height, he’s got experience, he can throw the ball down the field, he can throw it intermediate. He has a good command of the offense. He knows what’s expected. He knows the calls and can get us into plays, out of plays. “Now he has to go execute.” (Unlike CAssel?) Quinn didn’t play at all as a rookie and started only three games the next season. He lost the rest of that season with a finger injury. “He was a good talent coming out,” Crennel said. “There’s no doubt about it. He was a productive quarterback and had command of the offense that he ran up at Notre Dame and the weapons he had with him. “When he got to us, we didn’t have quite as many weapons as he had there at Notre Dame and he was learning a new system and so he wasn’t quite as effective as he had been at Notre Dame. Then he got hurt also. That impacted his development. That made it tough to make a solid evaluation of him.” Quinn remained with the Browns for one more year after Crennel was fired. His coordinator that season was Brian Daboll, now with the Chiefs. Daboll was unavailable for comment Wednesday but Crennel said, remarkably, that he never asked Daboll what he thought of Quinn before the Chiefs signed him. The Chiefs are hopeful the Browns were wrong on giving up on Quinn so quickly. “He was only there for three years,” Zobel said. “To me, when a guy gets drafted in the first round and didn’t play a down his first year and starts only three games his second year and then nine the next year, there’s no way to make a good evaluation on him. It just wasn’t a good mix of talent there. That wasn’t a great situation there. “He never got a fair shake with the Browns. It never got off on the right foot. That’s not how a team should allow a young guy to develop. You should put him out there and let him take his lumps and learn from them. He never had that opportunity.” Read more here: http://www.kansascity.com/2012/10/10...#storylink=cpy The 2 bold parts just make you go WTF. I know this has been discussed but considering how little time Quinn has had on the field why do so many people think he sucks?
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saphojunkie MVP Join Date: Aug 2011 Casino cash: $4796250	You assholes who called for Matt Cassel to be benched are going to get what you deserved. Quinn is going to come in and go .500. Bye bye, Geno. You couldn't just suffer with Cassel for one more measly season, go 1-15, and get a real QB? Our best case scenario is now that Quinn wins the rest of our games, right up through the super bowl. Our second best scenario is that he makes the rest of our 1-15 season at least entertaining.
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10-12-2012, 08:20 AM	#210
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