Denver - LMAO John Fox is a moron

[CoMoChief]

What a Herm Edwards move.

It's 3rd n 7 and you have a chance to WIN THE ****ING GAME with a 1st down and you run the ball when you have Peyton Manning as your QB?

That so backfired in his god damn face I about rolled off the couch laughing. He should be fired for that.

[CoMoChief]

Originally Posted by -King-

He proved it by throwing a fluke 70 yard TD pass. That fluke play could have happened with 5 seconds left. Would you say "Not a big difference between 1:50 and 5 seconds in today's NFL... which Flacco proved" in that situation?

There is a huge difference in 1:50 and 1:15. That's AT LEAST 3 to 4 more plays.

If Peyton Manning makes a simple 7 yd pass, game over....Donks win.

Instead they take the ball out of the hands of one of the best QB's to ever play this game and run a play that is 99% sure to not get anywhere close to getting a first down.

At least TRY to complete a 7yd pass. I mean ****ing try when you have Peyton ****ing Manning on your team. If it doesn't work out...if he gets sacked or throws an incompletion, then ok....you then need to punt on 4th down.

THIS IS 3RD DOWN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT HERE FOLKS, and you have Peyton ****ing Manning as your QB...not Matt Cassel.

[Hootie]

agreed...and if nothing is open he can just do his patented Manning fetal flop and the clock runs as well...

but at least play-action and see if you can get an open 8 yarder...the percentage of him throwing a pick in that situation is probably less than, you know, WHAT ENDED UP HAPPENING.

[-King-]

Originally Posted by Capt Tasty Cheeks

I don't know what to tell you King, other than you are wrong.

and Flacco proved you wrong.

How the **** did he prove me wrong? Because he threw a 70 yard fluke bomb?

If you have a shot to win a game on a 3rd and 7 with a QB who is pretty good at 7 yard passes you *HERM VOICE* PLAY TO WIN THE GAME!

I thought he was a choker?

If YOU admit that he's a choker, then how the hell can you say that he should have the ball in his hands in a crucial late game situation? Can't have it both ways.

[BlackHelicopters]

Fox's incompetence reached RAC levels.

[Hootie]

Originally Posted by -King-

How the **** did he prove me wrong? Because he threw a 70 yard fluke bomb?



I thought he was a choker?

If YOU admit that he's a choker, then how the hell can you say that he should have the ball in his hands in a crucial late game situation? Can't have it both ways.

If Peyton found a way to turn that into a pick 6, that's on him. Not Fox. I don't know what to tell you. Peyton is a superstar, if he's a choker, he's a choker...but you let your best player win games for you if given the situation.

I honestly don't know why you are so thick headed here. You realize you're the only one that agrees with the run on that 3rd down call on this website? I've yet to see one post that is like "yeah, you run there."

MAYBE if Denver's defense wasn't playing like shit and MAYBE if Joe Flacco hadn't already scored one TD against that very same prevent defense at the end of the first half and MAYBE if you don't have Peyton Manning.

that's a lot of maybes

[CoMoChief]

Originally Posted by -King-

How the **** did he prove me wrong? Because he threw a 70 yard fluke bomb?



I thought he was a choker?

If YOU admit that he's a choker, then how the hell can you say that he should have the ball in his hands in a crucial late game situation? Can't have it both ways.

So do you think Fox made the right call by running the ball then, taking it out of Manning's hands on 3rd n 7?

Can you give me a real answer that's not ridiculous ?

[Hootie]

yes, he does

I don't know why, but he does

[Hootie]

seriously

John Fox committed at least 2 fireable offenses yesterday.

and that safety should have probably immediately been cut after the game

it's a good thing I'm not the GM!

[RunKC]

Anybody notice that the Atlanta Falcons had the ball with less than 30 seconds left like the Broncos did, and they won the freaking game because their coach wasn't a giant pussy?

Oh that makes this so much more epic

[Hootie]

here is my only defense to the whole thing

maybe Peyton really couldn't throw the ball 20-30 yards.

Their offense was dink and dunk ball control 10-15 yard dig routes the whole game...

maybe they thought if he aired it out at the end he'd throw a duck that would result in a pick, and they had a better chance to get a stop in OT and dink and dunk their way to field goal range like they tried doing a few times before they got stuffed on 3rd and 1 and Peyton threw a terrible pick

but that still doesn't mean you run the ball on 3rd and 7 when Peyton could clearly throw an 8 yard pass and had been doing it effectively the entire game AND had a situation where play-action probably would have left someone open for a quick hitter as well

[-King-]

Originally Posted by Capt Tasty Cheeks

If Peyton found a way to turn that into a pick 6, that's on him. Not Fox. I don't know what to tell you. Peyton is a superstar, if he's a choker, he's a choker...but you let your best player win games for you if given the situation.

I honestly don't know why you are so thick headed here. You realize you're the only one that agrees with the run on that 3rd down call on this website? I've yet to see one post that is like "yeah, you run there."

MAYBE if Denver's defense wasn't playing like shit and MAYBE if Joe Flacco hadn't already scored one TD against that very same prevent defense at the end of the first half and MAYBE if you don't have Peyton Manning.

that's a lot of maybes

And maybe if Manning didn't have a history of melting down at crucial points in postseason games, he'd be trusted more. But...


But in that situation, you have to take the most time off the clock as possible.

But hey, according to you, 1:15 is the same as 1:50 so I don't think clock management is your strong suite.

Once again, you can't say somebody is a choker and then insist that they should have the ball in their hands in crucial late game situations. That's a contradiction.

[Hootie]

if that's the case though and old Manning can't throw 30 yards any more in the cold then Denver isn't going to win anything anytime soon

[Hootie]

Originally Posted by -King-

And maybe if Manning didn't have a history of melting down at crucial points in postseason games, he'd be trusted more. But...


But in that situation, you have to take the most time off the clock as possible.

But hey, according to you, 1:15 is the same as 1:50 so I don't think clock management is your strong suite.

Once again, you can't say somebody is a choker and then insist that they should have the ball in their hands in crucial late game situations. That's a contradiction.

in that situation...the difference between 1:15 and 1:50 wasn't enough to warrant not trying to win the game right then and there by passing the ball on 3rd and 7

if it left 30 seconds on the clock that's one thing...then you go ahead and run and punt

anything over a minute, you pass

1:00, even with no timeouts, is MORE than enough time to at least get to a position where you can throw a couple of passes into the end zone, especially against a prevent defense.

whether or not Peyton is a choker is irrelevant

the fact you don't grasp this basic concept makes me think less of you

not a big sports fan?!!?

[milkman]

Originally Posted by -King-

And maybe if Manning didn't have a history of melting down at crucial points in postseason games, he'd be trusted more. But...


But in that situation, you have to take the most time off the clock as possible.

But hey, according to you, 1:15 is the same as 1:50 so I don't think clock management is your strong suite.

Once again, you can't say somebody is a choker and then insist that they should have the ball in their hands in crucial late game situations. That's a contradiction.

It really isn't a contradiction.

I don't care if it's Matt Cassel in that situation, I am going for the first down.

I know full well that the chances are very good that Matt Cassel ****s up, but I am going down swinging, regardless.

I am not going to throw in the towel.

Playing not to lose leads to losing.

I'd rather lose aggressively than lose like a pussy.

[-King-]

Originally Posted by Capt Tasty Cheeks

I honestly don't know why you are so thick headed here. You realize you're the only one that agrees with the run on that 3rd down call on this website? I've yet to see one post that is like "yeah, you run there."

On that same token, no one other than CoMo is really backing you up. In the game thread, the only other person that made a big deal out of it was KC_Connection.


CoMo and KC_Connection are not a group of people I'd be proud to have on my side...