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Old 04-16-2013, 07:27 AM  
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Playstation 4 price and Xbox 720 is announced
I know this is a couple weeks old but I just came across this.

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$500 for XBone
$400 for PS4

I would like to point out that this is my best thread EVAR!!!! 1500+ posts and counting.
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Old 11-21-2013, 07:05 PM   #811
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Does anyone on this forum that has had a PS3/Xbox 360/PS4 use it soley for gaming? Consoles like this aren't just for gaming.
I think the point he's trying to make is this: Gamers want a console that's about games FIRST. That's what the PS4 is. The XBO seemingly is about doing a bunch of cool things, and oh yeah, it also plays games.

FTR - I'm in no way a PS fanboy, either. I bought the 360 at launch and enjoyed it immensely.
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Old 11-21-2013, 07:13 PM   #812
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I think the point he's trying to make is this: Gamers want a console that's about games FIRST.
Is there anything preventing a gamer from playing a game FIRST?
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Old 11-21-2013, 07:32 PM   #813
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Old 11-21-2013, 07:44 PM   #814
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Lets see here, PS4 does exactly what I need and want. XBO does more than I want and charges me more for features I don't want or need.

Take out the paywall for already paid services and unbundle the kinect and now you have a level playing field to make comparisons.[/QUOTE]



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No it really isn't. YOu might be surprised how many have no interest in that crap.

Make it optional.
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Old 11-21-2013, 07:45 PM   #815
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No it really isn't. YOu might be surprised how many have no interest in that crap.

Make it optional.
I agree, but let the market decide. If sales dip, then they will probably unbundle and lower the price. If sales remain strong, why should they unbundle? Smart business move.
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Old 11-21-2013, 07:47 PM   #816
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Old 11-21-2013, 07:53 PM   #817
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Yes, we know that MS gives you all the shitty stuff while PS gives you all the great, awesome stuff. MS is a rusty flaming aids tree while PS is rainbow covered unicorns.

Might want to read the conversation before jumping on the PS horse. Nobody was comparing the values of what MS was doing vs. what PS was doing. It was a question of whether MS offered something other than playing online for the cost of the gold membership. Which they do.....games for gold. hitsmage didn't know they offered it - I explained that they did.
JFC Plow. you know that isn't what I am saying. PS4 offers me what I want. Xbox has a bunch of features I have no interest in and would not use. Why pay for a bunch of stuff I do not want? I'm not alone in this.

I'm not "jumping on the playstation horse" I am just buying the product that does what I want. Eventually we will probably have both consoles but Xbox is probably 3 years away for me.
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Old 11-21-2013, 07:55 PM   #818
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I agree, but let the market decide. If sales dip, then they will probably unbundle and lower the price. If sales remain strong, why should they unbundle? Smart business move.
From everything I have read, they can't unbundle it. They are tied together. This was the course they chose to go and the course they will have to live with, good or bad. Odds are they will be fine though.
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Old 11-21-2013, 08:04 PM   #819
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Exactly...I'm getting a more powerful system that does exactly what I want it to for $100 cheaper...it really isn't even a contest for me.

And I'm far from a fanboy...liked the 360 way better than the PS3 for a large part of this gen...the PS4 is completely in a different stratosphere though, it's amazing Sony hasn't ****ed this up and got everything right this time around.

The UI is sleek, fast, and easy to navigate...the list of exclusives already announced and you know will be coming is just awesome...Playstation Plus is the best value in gaming, for instance at launch with PS + you got several free games plus $10 of PSN cash free when buying a PS4 (which I used on Flower) so before you even buy any games you already have 4-5 which is CRAZY...I can't believe how much I underestimated how fun and awesome watching AND streaming games is, something I can't believe MS has fumbled on and won't have until 2014.

Also an underlying feature that really no one is talking about is the fact that now you can plug in practically any headset into the DS4 and route all audio though them which is GENIUS especially for someone like me that has my console in my bedroom and new baby and wife that likes to go to bed early...so convenient.

Finally I also love that from the beginning Sony hasn't wavered on their vision and what they want the PS4 and PS ecosystem to become...and that's for gamers first. MS' vision has been filled with confusion, backtracking, and quite honestly ridiculous ideals and policies that thankfully have been done away with...it's been a mess.

I'm sure at one point I'll own the XBO and probably soon (for TitanFall) but right now, it's clear to me who is starting this gen running ahead.
I found that awesome. One of the things I really appreciate that Sony does is how they don't make everything proprietary. You want a bigger HDD, sure just pop one in there. You want to use any headset you want? Go for it.
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But that's just the point...GAMERS want a GAMING console...not an entertainment box that plays games too.

It is a gaming console and I also want total voice control. I am getting the best of both worlds.
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Old 11-21-2013, 08:26 PM   #821
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Old 11-21-2013, 09:12 PM   #822
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Got mine all taken care of just gotta go back up to Gamestop at 1130 and get it at Midnight. It was awesome because I started being a power rewards member back in 2010 and I realized today that I had 62000 points. So that's a free game essentially so I'm stoked I get to pick up one extra game, or controller.

BTW this trailer gets me ready to **** some shit up.

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Just to chime in, I'm one of those few that only plays offline. We don't even have internet at the house. Having to update my software every time I buy a new game is annoying.
That said I just bought a new ps3 and won't be getting a ps4 for at least 3-4 years as long as ps3 games are still being made.


Oh yeah. PS is the best system, **** xbox. :-)
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Is there anything preventing a gamer from playing a game FIRST?
It's not about choosing an option first; it's about having a system architecture that supports gaming first and foremost (from the parent company, to developers, right on down to the gamer). XBO doesn't seem to follow that model. Those commercials that MS is running barely show any gameplay whatsoever. To me, that would indicate they're shooting for a larger demographic - a wider segment that is looking for other things.
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