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Old 01-31-2012, 02:52 PM  
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Old 07-09-2012, 09:17 PM   #4171
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The Clemson boards seem to think Notre Dame is ACC bound.
I've heard that talk, but the B12 boards had some of the same talk a few months back. Personally, I wouldn't want ND as a partial member unless it was with agreement that it would soon be full membership, If ND is going to the ACC, then it will probably be as a partial member. Afterall, why make a separate Orange Bowl deal if you were planning to join the conference contracted with it, anyway?

I don't think it will matter to FSU either way. Not even ND/partial member can make up the money gap between the ACC and the B12. If ND is coming as a full member, then it means they got some sweetheart deal that's more likely to piss FSU off. These dead times are full of misinformation, deliberately set free, with various purposes in mind.
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Old 07-09-2012, 09:18 PM   #4172
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The Clemson boards seem to think Notre Dame is ACC bound.
Either way the ACC is fine. None of these conferences are going anywhere. It's funny that after all of this pretty much any school will be eligible to win the NC instead of just BCS level conferences.

It's more convoluted than ever.
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Old 07-09-2012, 09:19 PM   #4173
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Gotta love those who talk as if they are the schools president LOL

Yeah that JR membership has landed them some of the top facilities in the nation, a top 25 recruiting class in football, more national exposure, and enough money to extend our football coach to keep him from going to other schools.

Meanwhile KU is being used as a filling spot for the Pac 12 plane and hired a coach who was fired from his last head coaching gig. Whats the bar set at? 5 wins this year? Rock Chalk.
Well, then go enjoy it and quit sticking your dick in media holes it wasn't meant for.
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Old 07-09-2012, 09:20 PM   #4174
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Gotta love those who talk as if they are the schools president LOL

Yeah that JR membership has landed them some of the top facilities in the nation, a top 25 recruiting class in football, more national exposure, and enough money to extend our football coach to keep him from going to other schools.

Meanwhile KU is being used as a filling spot for the Pac 12 plane and hired a coach who was fired from his last head coaching gig. Whats the bar set at? 5 wins this year? Rock Chalk.
Your coach is already talking shit on the playoff format because he knows Nebraska will never be good enough to get into the top 4.

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Old 07-09-2012, 09:25 PM   #4176
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Either way the ACC is fine. None of these conferences are going anywhere. It's funny that after all of this pretty much any school will be eligible to win the NC instead of just BCS level conferences.

It's more convoluted that ever.
I disagree, the net effect will be that schools not from the Big 4 conference will find it even more difficult to get into the playoffs. They'll be some sort of RPI that will take in conference difficulty combined with a selection committee. You would have to have an undefeated team with quality opponents, and if your conference doesn't offer it, then it will handicap you. When they were projecting what form this type of selection might look like, only 2007 Virginia Tech would have made it in the BCS era.
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Old 07-09-2012, 09:27 PM   #4177
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I disagree, the net effect will be that schools not from the Big 4 conference will find it even more difficult to get into the playoffs. They'll be some sort of RPI that will take in conference difficulty combined with a selection committee. You would have to have an undefeated team with quality opponents, and if your conference doesn't offer it, then it will handicap you. When they were projecting what form this type of selection might look like, only 2007 Virginia Tech would have made it in the BCS era.
I agree with that but wasn't it impossible for a non BCS conference team to make it into the BCS NC game before? I could be wrong but I thought that was the biggest gripe from Utah, Boise etc...

Or were they just never voted in? I never paid that much attention because the system seemed so random.
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Old 07-09-2012, 09:30 PM   #4178
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I agree with that but wasn't it impossible for a non BCS conference team to make it into the BCS NC game before? I could be wrong but I thought that was the biggest gripe from Utah, Boise etc...

Or were they just never voted in? I never paid that much attention because the system seemed so random.
No, they could get in, but as a non auto bid conference, they had to meet certain criteria, like being ranked so high, etc.

Basically, if you lost once, you couldn't get in, whereas a BCS auto bid school could lose once or twice, and if it won its conference, still get a shot.
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I agree with that but wasn't it impossible for a non BCS conference team to make it into the BCS NC game before? I could be wrong but I thought that was the biggest gripe from Utah, Boise etc...

Or were they just never voted in? I never paid that much attention because the system seemed so random.
Who cares? Non-BCS teams shouldn't be allowed to play in the championship game either.
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No, they could get in, but as a non auto bid conference, they had to meet certain criteria, like being ranked so high, etc.

Basically, if you lost once, you couldn't get in, whereas a BCS auto bid school could lose once or twice, and if it won its conference, still get a shot.
Are the auto bid conferences still in tact or is that tbd?
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Who cares? Non-BCS teams shouldn't be allowed to play in the championship game either.
The only way to have a true national champion is to have every single team that competes at that level to have a chance to win it all. Otherwise it's not a true championship.

This is how every single other sport works.
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Are the auto bid conferences still in tact or is that tbd?
There are no "auto bid" conferences in name, but the Big 4 will make it very difficult for anyone not from one of their conferences to crash their party.
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The only way to have a true national champion is to have every single team that competes at that level to have a chance to win it all. Otherwise it's not a true championship.

This is how every single other sport works.
Yeah and in other sports teams play more balanced schedules.


There's no comparing Boise State's schedule to Florida's.
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