Chiefs Salary Cap numbers. Here's the facts. Now What?

**BigRedChief** · 10:19 AM

Player cap numbers from Adam Teicher of the KC Star:
http://www.kansascity.com/mld/kansas...s/16657380.htm

http://www.kansascity.com/mld/kansas...s/16657983.htm

The Chiefs have 60 players under contract. Only the highest 51 salary-cap numbers are counted against the NFL limit when the league year begins. The total for those 51 players is $98,441,012.

Pos. Player 2007 base salary 2007 salary cap figure*
CB Patrick Surtain $4,650,000 $9,364,375
QB Trent Green $7,200,000 $9,148,808
G Brian Waters $720,000 $5,220,000
CB Ty Law $3,000,000 $5,050,000
OT Willie Roaf $3,500,000 $4,846,904
WR Eddie Kennison $2,150,000 $4,738,333
TE Tony Gonzalez $1,000,000 $4,531,370
LB Kendrell Bell $3,037,500 $4,487,500
DE Eric Hicks $2,900,000 $4,450,000
S Greg Wesley $2,700,000 $3,966,666
C Casey Wiegmann $2,435,000 $3,635,000
DT Ryan Sims $1,901,000 $3,063,202
S Sammy Knight $2,000,000 $2,815,000
RB Priest Holmes $870,000 $2,450,804
RB Larry Johnson $1,900,000 $2,422,854
G Will Shields $1,200,000 $2,272,500
LB Derrick Johnson $665,000 $2,130,000
KR Dante Hall $1,500,000 $1,975,000
S William Bartee $1,400,000 $1,929,168
OL Chris Bober $1,215,000 $1,890,000
T John Welbourn $1,700,000 $1,706,720
DE Tamba Hali $360,000 $1,450,000
RB Michael Bennett $1,200,000 $1,250,000
TE Jason Dunn $770,000 $1,220,000
T Kyle Turley $1,000,000 $1,200,000
T Chris Terry $720,000 $770,000
FB Kris Wilson $510,000 $764,000
S Bernard Pollard $360,000 $625,000
WR Rod Gardner $595,000 $595,000
P Dustin Colquitt $435,000 $575,000
QB Brodie Croyle $360,000 $531,666
LB Boomer Grigsby $435,000 $482,500
DT Brian Howard $435,000 $435,000
T Will Svitek $435,000 $460,434
G Tre Stallings $360,000 $383,750
WR Jeff Webb $360,000 $382,500
S Jarrad Page $360,000 $371,958
CB Michael Bragg $360,000 $360,000
S Robb Butler $360,000 $360,000
WR Chris Hannon $360,000 $360,000
LB William Kershaw $360,000 $360,000
CB Marcus Maxey $360,000 $360,000
C Rudy Niswanger $360,000 $360,000
CB Zach Norton $360,000 $360,000
CB Dimitri Patterson $360,000 $360,000
RB Derrick Ross $360,000 $360,000
DT Tim Sandidge $360,000 $360,000
DT Steve Williams $360,000 $360,000
CB Gabriel Helms $310,000 $310,000
OL Ramiro Pruneda $285,000 $295,000
FB Greg Hanoian $285,000 $285,000
OL Rob Hunt $285,000 $285,000
QB Omar Jacobs $285,000 $285,000
TE Adam Johnson $285,000 $285,000
DE Montez Murphy $285,000 $285,000
CB Justin Phinisee $285,000 $285,000
QB Casey Printers $285,000 $285,000
LB Nick Reid $285,000 $285,000
TE Keith Willis $285,000 $285,000
LB Timi Wusu $285,000 $285,000

* includes various bonuses
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Released players from last year

The Chiefs have salary-cap obligations for 19 players released last year, including some who were later re-signed. The total for those players is $5,824,302.

Pos. Player Salary cap value
S Jerome Woods $2,650,001
DT John Browning $1,200,000
DT Junior Siavii $1,050,000
DT Lional Dalton $750,000
CB Marcus Maxey $82,134
QB Casey Printers $66,667
WR Chris Hannon $3,750
WR Danny Melendez $3,750
DT Alex Guerrero $2,500
CB Chris Johnson $2,500

Pos. Player Salary cap value

LB William Kershaw $2,500
RB Jake Slaughter $1,750
OL Steve Franklin $1,500
RB De’Arrius Howard$1,500
RB McKenzi Smith $1,500
LB Brandon Guillory $1,250
WR Jermaine Jamison $1,250
LB Nick Reid $1,000
TE Bob Docherty $750
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Unsigned players

The following 18 players have no 2007 contract:

DE Jared Allen

OT Jordan Black

RB Dee Brown

FB Ronnie Cruz

DT Ron Edwards

LB Keyaron Fox

LS Kendall Gammon

LB Kris Griffin

QB Damon Huard

LB Kawika Mitchell

WR Samie Parker

DT James Reed

OT Kevin Sampson

CB Benny Sapp

LB Rich Scanlon

**BigRedChief** · 02-09-2007, 10:14 AM

Five players in particular account for more than 20 percent of the Chiefs’ salary-cap obligations:
QB Trent Green >> $9,148,808
Target for restructured contract
LB Kendrell Bell >> $4,487,500
Hasn’t lived up to expectations
DE Eric Hicks >> $4,450,000
Days as a starter are over
DT Ryan Sims >> $3,063,202
Very shaky job status
RB Priest Holmes >> $2,450,804
Hasn’t played since October 2005

jspchief · 02-09-2007, 01:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigRedChief

Five players in particular account for more than 20 percent of the Chiefs’ salary-cap obligations:
QB Trent Green >> $9,148,808
Target for restructured contract
LB Kendrell Bell >> $4,487,500
Hasn’t lived up to expectations
DE Eric Hicks >> $4,450,000
Days as a starter are over
DT Ryan Sims >> $3,063,202
Very shaky job status
RB Priest Holmes >> $2,450,804
Hasn’t played since October 2005

Nice little synopsis of why this organization cannot build a champion.

Halfcan · 02-09-2007, 03:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigRedChief

Five players in particular account for more than 20 percent of the Chiefs’ salary-cap obligations:
QB Trent Green >> $9,148,808
Target for restructured contract
LB Kendrell Bell >> $4,487,500
Hasn’t lived up to expectations
DE Eric Hicks >> $4,450,000
Days as a starter are over
DT Ryan Sims >> $3,063,202
Very shaky job status
RB Priest Holmes >> $2,450,804
Hasn’t played since October 2005

Yep time to trim the fat.

htismaqe · 02-09-2007, 10:15 AM

Unless you got those numbers from the team or the NFLPA, they are "educated guesses" and not "facts".

**BigRedChief** · 02-09-2007, 10:19 AM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe

Unless you got those numbers from the team or the NFLPA, they are "educated guesses" and not "facts".

Links on there now. They are from the KC Star, Adam Teicher who we can assume got them from the NFLPA. If they are not accuarte he and the Star could be sued. No way the KC Star newspaper published these numbers without a solid resource.

htismaqe · 02-09-2007, 10:25 AM

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Originally Posted by BigRedChief

Links on there now. They are from the KC Star, Adam Teicher who we can assume got them from the NFLPA. If they are not accuarte he and the Star could be sued. No way the KC Star newspaper published these numbers without a solid resource.

I'm not saying they're not "accurate". I'm sure they're close to being correct, probably within 3-5%.

So much more goes into it than any of us, including Teicher, know and as such any talk of the salary cap should be taken with a grain of salt.

**BigRedChief** · 02-09-2007, 10:30 AM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe

I'm not saying they're not "accurate". I'm sure they're close to being correct, probably within 3-5%.

So much more goes into it than any of us, including Teicher, know and as such any talk of the salary cap should be taken with a grain of salt.

WELLLLLL anyway they are as close to the correct numbers that me or you or anyone else on this board will ever see. So we can discuss some football here in this thead. Play Chiefs GM. Let the fun begin.

htismaqe · 02-09-2007, 10:56 AM

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Originally Posted by BigRedChief

Play Chiefs GM.

Nah, I'd rather not.

When I "play" I prefer to pretend I'm somebody cool, like King Arthur or Angus Young. Carl Peterson just ain't that cool.

Mr. Laz · 02-09-2007, 10:48 AM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe

Unless you got those numbers from the team or the NFLPA, they are "educated guesses" and not "facts".

also doesn't include various types of bonuses that could be there

btw - nice spacing BRC .... my eyes are now bleeding.

**BigRedChief** · 02-09-2007, 10:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Laz

btw - nice spacing BRC .... my eyes are now bleeding.

You take the time to format it then bub.

StcChief · 02-09-2007, 10:53 AM

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Originally Posted by BigRedChief

You take the time to format it then bub.

some would bitch if they were hung with a new rope.

**BigRedChief** · 02-09-2007, 10:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Laz

also doesn't include various types of bonuses that could be there

You guys reminde me of these posters on here when a pic of a beautiful women is posted that they say that they get better.

You just are not going to get more reliable public information about the Chiefs Salary cap than this. If its not accuarte enough for you inquiring taste you will have to join the Chiefs front office to get yourself up to speed on the "real" #'s.

htismaqe · 02-09-2007, 10:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigRedChief

You guys reminde me of these posters on here when a pic of a beautiful women is posted that they say that they get better.

You just are not going to get more reliable public information about the Chiefs Salary cap than this. If its not accuarte enough for you inquiring taste you will have to join the Chiefs front office to get yourself up to speed on the "real" #'s.

Nah...

Put me in the "nice picture, too bad you'll never get a woman like that" category.

Speculating about the salary cap is an exercise in futility.

Mr. Laz · 02-09-2007, 11:39 AM

02-09-2007, 10:13 AM	Topic Starter
BigRedChief Has a particular set of skills Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: On the water Casino cash: $3229627 VARSITY	Chiefs Salary Cap numbers. Here's the facts. Now What? Player cap numbers from Adam Teicher of the KC Star: http://www.kansascity.com/mld/kansas...s/16657380.htm http://www.kansascity.com/mld/kansas...s/16657983.htm The Chiefs have 60 players under contract. Only the highest 51 salary-cap numbers are counted against the NFL limit when the league year begins. The total for those 51 players is $98,441,012. Pos. Player 2007 base salary 2007 salary cap figure* CB Patrick Surtain $4,650,000 $9,364,375 QB Trent Green $7,200,000 $9,148,808 G Brian Waters $720,000 $5,220,000 CB Ty Law $3,000,000 $5,050,000 OT Willie Roaf $3,500,000 $4,846,904 WR Eddie Kennison $2,150,000 $4,738,333 TE Tony Gonzalez $1,000,000 $4,531,370 LB Kendrell Bell $3,037,500 $4,487,500 DE Eric Hicks $2,900,000 $4,450,000 S Greg Wesley $2,700,000 $3,966,666 C Casey Wiegmann $2,435,000 $3,635,000 DT Ryan Sims $1,901,000 $3,063,202 S Sammy Knight $2,000,000 $2,815,000 RB Priest Holmes $870,000 $2,450,804 RB Larry Johnson $1,900,000 $2,422,854 G Will Shields $1,200,000 $2,272,500 LB Derrick Johnson $665,000 $2,130,000 KR Dante Hall $1,500,000 $1,975,000 S William Bartee $1,400,000 $1,929,168 OL Chris Bober $1,215,000 $1,890,000 T John Welbourn $1,700,000 $1,706,720 DE Tamba Hali $360,000 $1,450,000 RB Michael Bennett $1,200,000 $1,250,000 TE Jason Dunn $770,000 $1,220,000 T Kyle Turley $1,000,000 $1,200,000 T Chris Terry $720,000 $770,000 FB Kris Wilson $510,000 $764,000 S Bernard Pollard $360,000 $625,000 WR Rod Gardner $595,000 $595,000 P Dustin Colquitt $435,000 $575,000 QB Brodie Croyle $360,000 $531,666 LB Boomer Grigsby $435,000 $482,500 DT Brian Howard $435,000 $435,000 T Will Svitek $435,000 $460,434 G Tre Stallings $360,000 $383,750 WR Jeff Webb $360,000 $382,500 S Jarrad Page $360,000 $371,958 CB Michael Bragg $360,000 $360,000 S Robb Butler $360,000 $360,000 WR Chris Hannon $360,000 $360,000 LB William Kershaw $360,000 $360,000 CB Marcus Maxey $360,000 $360,000 C Rudy Niswanger $360,000 $360,000 CB Zach Norton $360,000 $360,000 CB Dimitri Patterson $360,000 $360,000 RB Derrick Ross $360,000 $360,000 DT Tim Sandidge $360,000 $360,000 DT Steve Williams $360,000 $360,000 CB Gabriel Helms $310,000 $310,000 OL Ramiro Pruneda $285,000 $295,000 FB Greg Hanoian $285,000 $285,000 OL Rob Hunt $285,000 $285,000 QB Omar Jacobs $285,000 $285,000 TE Adam Johnson $285,000 $285,000 DE Montez Murphy $285,000 $285,000 CB Justin Phinisee $285,000 $285,000 QB Casey Printers $285,000 $285,000 LB Nick Reid $285,000 $285,000 TE Keith Willis $285,000 $285,000 LB Timi Wusu $285,000 $285,000 * includes various bonuses --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Released players from last year The Chiefs have salary-cap obligations for 19 players released last year, including some who were later re-signed. The total for those players is $5,824,302. Pos. Player Salary cap value S Jerome Woods $2,650,001 DT John Browning $1,200,000 DT Junior Siavii $1,050,000 DT Lional Dalton $750,000 CB Marcus Maxey $82,134 QB Casey Printers $66,667 WR Chris Hannon $3,750 WR Danny Melendez $3,750 DT Alex Guerrero $2,500 CB Chris Johnson $2,500 Pos. Player Salary cap value LB William Kershaw $2,500 RB Jake Slaughter $1,750 OL Steve Franklin $1,500 RB De’Arrius Howard$1,500 RB McKenzi Smith $1,500 LB Brandon Guillory $1,250 WR Jermaine Jamison $1,250 LB Nick Reid $1,000 TE Bob Docherty $750 --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Unsigned players The following 18 players have no 2007 contract: DE Jared Allen OT Jordan Black RB Dee Brown FB Ronnie Cruz DT Ron Edwards LB Keyaron Fox LS Kendall Gammon LB Kris Griffin QB Damon Huard LB Kawika Mitchell WR Samie Parker DT James Reed OT Kevin Sampson CB Benny Sapp LB Rich Scanlon Last edited by BigRedChief; 02-09-2007 at 10:19 AM..
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