E3 2013

[MMXcalibur]

Time to geek out.
What are you looking forward too?

I'm looking forward to more on the PlayStation 4, a competent Vita lineup, and some NHL 14 news.

[BryanBusby]

Originally Posted by New World Order

Is getting it at launch worth it? What games are you guys going to play? No Uncharted, Little Big Planet, Gran Turismo etc..

Said about every console launch pretty much ever. I'd say a lot of people will be playing Killzone though.

Originally Posted by Pitt Gorilla

I did too. The original one, not the mini one or whatever. In fact, I still use it with our xbox. That being said, the PS3 controller has been fine.

Yeah, **** the S controller or whatever they called it. I always preferred the black+white buttons being at the top. Always hated the D-Pad on any xbox controller though.

[BryanBusby]

Major Nelson talks about the Xbone some and....

he's wearing a ****ing dead animal on his head.

Suddenly their entire policy makes sense. They are all just really, really high.

[Mav]

Originally Posted by New World Order

Is getting it at launch worth it? What games are you guys going to play? No Uncharted, Little Big Planet, Gran Turismo etc..

im like you. The more and more I think about it, the more I am leaning towards just waiting.....Im happy with my xbox 360, and with madden coming out in august, and Ghosts in November, it gives me an easy out to just chill on the new system until maybe march when mlb the show comes out.

[Mother****erJones]

My launch Xbox was great no issues. Well see about the ps4

[Setsuna]

Originally Posted by BryanBusby

Maybe, but I think it's the herd mentality. "Hey yo Tyrone getting an xbone, so we all need to reluctantly get xbones"


I'm one of those weird bastards that actually liked the original xbox controller.

I appreciate the use of light ebonics for me or else I wouldn't have understood what you were saying. Although you botched it with "reluctantly."

Originally Posted by Mother****erJones

My launch Xbox was great no issues. Well see about the ps4

How many years ago was that? Apples to Oranges.

[Aspengc8]

Are developers actually writing/coding different engines for games that are on both platforms? Or are just the ps4 exclusives going to take advantage of the better hardware.

[Mav]

Originally Posted by Aspengc8

Are developers actually writing/coding different engines for games that are on both platforms? Or are just the ps4 exclusives going to take advantage of the better hardware.

its the same engines. but basically what the xbox is having to do, is put a governor on their processor to keep it from over heating. Ie, it doesn't run as fast, and efficiently as the ps4. They have the same capabilities, just xbox much like dodge, where they cant find a way to keep their cars from eating their trannies, xbox cant figure out how to get max out put without melting down the entire system.

[Quesadilla Joe]

The PlayStation 4 controller is just slightly better than the best thing ever

What people like or dislike in a video game controller is often subjective; our hands come in many sizes and shapes, and what feels comfortable to me may be intolerable for you across lengthy playing sections. There is no perfect controller, as everyone is looking for slightly different things in how they control their games.

That being said, the PlayStation 4 controller may be the best thing since sliced bread.

The sum of its parts

It’s hard to measure the controller against its peers without having a variety of controllers right next to each other, but the DualShock 4 feels larger in my hand, with a much more rounded design where you grip the controller. It’s also slightly heavier, and the overall design rests against the natural curves of your hand in a much more natural way.

My first thought when a developer placed the controller in my hand was the following: “Holy shit, that’s nice.” It takes a bit to work backwards to figure out everything Sony did in the design to get that reaction, but there you go.

It felt almost too good, like I was holding something illicit. I was afraid it would be taken away. It felt like the first time I touched a girl’s breast in the backseat of a car with fogged up windows, scared that her parents were going to fling the door open and start yelling at me. I wanted to grab the controller and run. I wanted to nuzzle it against my face and ask it who is a good controller? Who is a good controller?

You’re a good controller, you sexy thing, you.

The triggers are likewise more comfortable, curving slightly inward to hold your finger. The buttons and D-pad likely have some subtle distinctions between the Dual Shock 4 and the previous PlayStation 3 controllers, but I couldn’t tell much of a difference. The controller comes with rumble, standard, so we don’t have to suffer through Sony claiming that force feedback is a “last-gen” feature because it doesn’t want to pay to license it.

The analog sticks have a cupped design and a firmer feel; I never had the sense my thumb was going to slide off. I was able to try a hands-on demo of the upcoming Playstation 4 Killzone title, and in that game you swipe the touchpad to switch between different secondary powers. The action felt accessible and effective, and you can click down on the pad as well, just as you would the touchpad on your laptop. The director of the console version of Diablo 3 told me the touch pad was one of the things they were looking at while porting the game to the PlayStation 4, although they weren’t sure what they’d use it for quite yet.

The touchpad is a better move than you think. With more big-name games being released and ported to and from mobile devices, and even consoles like the Ouya, a touchpad on your controller means you’ll be able to play those games on your console. Microsoft’s answer to touch controls is the Kinect, an expensive accessory that is likely partially to blame for the system’s $500 price point, while delivering a control mechanism that is still nowhere near as precise as a physical controller.

This is Sony’s play for better ports to and from other devices and, while I’ll need to play more on it to know for sure, so far it seems like that gamble paid off. The touchpad is already much better than the similar control mechanism on the Ouya controller. There is a light on the back of the DualShock 4, and that's going to let the new camera see where you are in the room or use the controller like a PlayStation Move. It's neat that it's there, but I'm not holding my breath for this feature to become very important. There is a also a port on the bottom for a mono ear bud and speaker that will allow voice chat in online games.

So that's the breakdown of things, but everything taken as a whole has created a controller that feels almost stupidly great in my hands. Yesterday I felt my next child move for the first time. I felt her tiny feet kick through my wife's belly, my hand finally being given its first tactile evidence that my child is alive and healthy. That experience was several steps higher than feeling the PlayStation 4 controller for the first time but, damnit, they were closer than I'm comfortable admitting.

The PlayStation 4 controller is up there with Otter Pops after a squirt-gun fight, and grilled cheese sandwiches. It's a good book and a hot bath, and Flight of the Navigator. I can't wait to play more.

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[007]

at the breast comparison. That guy has no life.

[Mr. Plow]

What is the touchpad going to be used for on the PS4 controller?

[Aspengc8]

Originally Posted by Maverick91579

its the same engines. but basically what the xbox is having to do, is put a governor on their processor to keep it from over heating. Ie, it doesn't run as fast, and efficiently as the ps4. They have the same capabilities, just xbox much like dodge, where they cant find a way to keep their cars from eating their trannies, xbox cant figure out how to get max out put without melting down the entire system.

Ok so then the graphics will be the same. Their wont be a performance drop since developers know what they are limited to, except on PS4 exclusives where they can take advantage of that hardware.

[Mother****erJones]

Originally Posted by Setsuna

I appreciate the use of light ebonics for me or else I wouldn't have understood what you were saying. Although you botched it with "reluctantly."






How many years ago was that? Apples to Oranges.

My xbox 360 launch in '05 or whenever it came out. I meant 360 not original xbox.

[Mother****erJones]

Via wikipedia.org don't know how accurate it is:

Controllers
Main articles: DualShock 4 and PlayStation Move


PlayStation Move controllers
The DualShock 4 will be the PlayStation 4's primary controller, retailing at $59 US/$59 CA/€59/£54.[33] Similar to the DualShock 3, it will connect to the console via Bluetooth 2.1+EDR.[34] The DualShock 3, however, will not be compatible with PS4.[35] The DualShock 4 will be equipped with several new features, including a built-in two-point capacitative touch pad on the front of the controller, which can be clicked.[32] The controller will support motion detection via a three-axis gyroscope and three-axis accelerometer and improved vibration.[32][34] It will include a non-removable,[36] rechargeable lithium-ion battery tentatively capable of storing 1000 mAh.[32] The tentative design weighs 210 g (7.4 oz), has dimensions of 162 × 52 × 98 mm (6.4 × 2.0 × 3.9 in), and has a rubber or etched plastic backing to enhance grip.[34][36] The design shown at the PlayStation 4 reveal event was "near final".[16]


DualShock 4
The controller will feature several output connectors. Its stereo jack (3.5 mm TRS connector) will support the connection of a headset to allow a user to speak and hear audio simultaneously.[34] A micro USB port, an extension port, and a mono speaker will also be included. The controller can be charged via micro USB, a dedicated charging station, or the console (even when the console is off).[32]
The DualShock 4 will feature the following buttons: PS button, SHARE button, OPTIONS button, directional buttons, action buttons (triangle, circle, cross, square), shoulder buttons (R1/L1), triggers (R2/L2), analog stick click buttons (L3/R3) and a touch pad click button.[32] These mark several changes from the DualShock 3 and other previous PlayStation controllers. The START and SELECT buttons have been merged into a single OPTIONS button.[32][36] A dedicated SHARE button will allow players to upload video from their gameplay experiences.[32] The joysticks and triggers have been redesigned based on developer input.[32] The joysticks now will feature a concave surface.[36]
The DualShock 4 will also feature a light bar that can display different colors. The colors will help identify players and alert them with critical messages such as low health.[32] It also will interact with a camera attachment that perceives movement and depth by using the controller's light bar. It is based on the existing technology used in the PlayStation Move. Existing PlayStation Move controllers will be supported on the PS4.[34][37]

[Mav]

Originally Posted by Aspengc8

Ok so then the graphics will be the same. Their wont be a performance drop since developers know what they are limited to, except on PS4 exclusives where they can take advantage of that hardware.

its all subjective at this point. But, for instance given what we know, is that if you play cod, on the ps4, and xbox one, it will run faster on the ps4, and in a game like that, frame rate is huge... lag sucks....

[New World Order]

Originally Posted by Aspengc8

Ok so then the graphics will be the same. Their wont be a performance drop since developers know what they are limited to, except on PS4 exclusives where they can take advantage of that hardware.

The graphics won't be the same for any game with the exception of cod since their developers are already sitting on a gold mine. Cod isn't using a different engine but a lot of the games will be. The games will look better as well as run 60 FPS instead of 30. The console games will look next gen.