Dolphins working on a trade for offensive tackle Branden Albert

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Branden Albert trade won’t happen unless he lowers his price
Posted by Michael David Smith on April 21, 2013, 6:46 PM EDT
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The much-discussed potential trade of Branden Albert from the Chiefs to the Dolphins doesn’t appear likely at the price Albert is currently seeking.

Although the Chiefs and Dolphins can probably agree on compensation — the Dolphins sending a second-round pick to Kansas City — the hangup is that Albert wants the kind of money that the Dolphins aren’t willing to spend. Specifically, according to Jason Cole of Yahoo! Sports, Albert wants between $8 million and $9 million a year on a long-term deal.

In other words, Albert is looking for the same kind of contract that left tackle Jake Long got from the Rams — the very contract the Dolphins wouldn’t give Long, which is why he left Miami for St. Louis.

If the Dolphins weren’t willing to pay Long that kind of money, it’s hard to see why they’d be willing to give up a second-round draft pick for the privilege of paying Albert that kind of money. So the Dolphins may need to look elsewhere for a left tackle. And Albert may have to settle for playing this season for the Chiefs, making $9.8 million, and hitting free agency next year.

[Mr. Laz]

Originally Posted by HemiEd

As it should be. The team will NEVER have a better opportunity to draft a QB.

unless the QB's in this draft really do suck, then the team will NEVER have a better opportunity to draft a SHITTY QB.

[Saul Good]

Originally Posted by Just Passin' By

Or what?

The irony of the "GENO!!!!" crowd is that Alex Smith is a 1.1, and the Geno people are insisting he's not good enough, so the team needs to take a QB at 1.1. Let's try a little more reality here. Between the last "generational" QB prospect (P. Manning) and the most recent "generational" QB prospect (A. Luck), here are the QBs taken at 1.1:

Tim Couch
Michael Vick
David Carr
Carson Palmer
Eli Manning
Alex Smith
JaMarcus Russell
Matthew Stafford
Sam Bradford
Cam Newton

That's not exactly a murderer's row of QBs.

Why would you exclude Manning and Luck? Throw those names in one bag. Throw Eric Fisher and Luke Joeckel's names in another bag.

Which bag are you drawing from?

[O.city]

Originally Posted by Mr. Laz

fair enough, i would probably say i'm at the same point for the entire chiefs organization.

don't talk, show me ... tired of hearing bullshit, put it on the field

If Reid and Dorsey screw this up they will probably end up getting fired pretty quickly for it.

Just have to wait and see.

I'm just taking the true fan approach. They are with the Chiefs, it will be good, until proven otherwise.


Too much other shit in life to enjoy than be stuck in the constant pissed off state of the past few years.

[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by Just Passin' By

So, rather than deal with the facts of the discussion, you're going to go there, even though I've said that they should take the QB if they think he's the answer? Well, that sort of makes the point about the "GENO!!!!" crowd, I guess.

I've dealt with the facts the whole time; you continue to sidestep them and essentially try to place yourself in an unassailable spot and/or simply excuse the front office regardless of the outcome.

You appear to be arguing that no matter what happens, Reid gets a pass for this pick. You're citing the 'weakness at the top of the class' as though no talent will come out of it. You seem to be ignoring the fact that this front office seems content to fill a hole that it's dying to create and somehow justifying the decision by again citing a weak draft class.

If the class is so !@#$ing weak, why make more holes in your roster? Or if it's only weak at the top, why spend #34 on a QB that's ceiling is slightly above average when the draft is actually quite deep from 15-40?

The front office has ****ed this up except for one possible scenario - Alex Smith does become a top 10 QB, Geno Smith does bust out and Joeckel/Fisher end up being clear improvements on Brandon Albert for a very long time.

But no, just keep on making excuses for the front office. This is just the same mindless contrarian bullshit that you spouted during the ***** regime - that's why I pointed it out.

It turns out you're not even a ***** ballwasher, you're just dittohead - "yes sir, front office, whatever you decide works for me and if you decide poorly...well that's okay, there wasn't an Andrew Luck just sitting there waiting for you."

GMs separate themselves from the pack in drafts like this one - not in drafts like the Luck draft. My wife could've made the Andrew Luck pick; I'm not impressed. If these guys are worth a shit at all they'll still make this team a lot better given the tools they inherited.

I suspect they won't, however.

[Just Passin' By]

Originally Posted by Saul Good

Why would you exclude Manning and Luck?

Because they were pretty much universally considered 'generational' prospects. That doesn't apply to any QB in this year's draft.

[RunKC]

Originally Posted by O.city

Sure Charles can do that, which teams will account for. But he's not gonna be loading up on carries.

I like Charles in Reid's offense though, more for his pass catching abilities.

I think he'll get some carries. LeSean McCoy had around 270 2 years ago and last year he had 200 in only 12 games (on pace for 266).

Charles had 285 last year. Not too big of a difference, plus like you said, I think his pass catching abilities will be emphasized.

[Deberg_1990]

Originally Posted by O.city

Liek DJ said, "this better be right, or they'll get fired".

It's really that simple.

No its not. What matters is WINS from Sept to Jan.

Joeckel could bust, and the Chiefs still win games. Thats all that matters. Not what happens in April.

[Marcellus]

Originally Posted by HemiEd

As it should be. The team will NEVER have a better opportunity to draft a QB.

See thats not true. Having your choice of a bad group of players still leaves you with a bad player.

We really really screwed up in 2011.

[Hammock Parties]

Originally Posted by Deberg_1990

Joeckel could bust, and the Chiefs still win games.

If Albert is traded and Joeckel busts, this is going to be an embarrassing season.

Alex Smith needs perfect pass protection or he's gonna get sacked 60 times.

[Deberg_1990]

Originally Posted by HemiEd

As it should be. The team will NEVER have a better opportunity to draft a QB.

Like when they passed on Aaron Rodgers for DJ?

[HemiEd]

Originally Posted by Mr. Laz

unless the QB's in this draft really do suck, then the team will NEVER have a better opportunity to draft a SHITTY QB.

They always have an excuse, always. This is just the latest one, as they can't use the standard one where another team picked their guy ahead of them this year.

You know, if they had to pay those huge contracts like Jamarcus Russel got from the Raiders, I could give them a lot of slack. I wouldn't want them to gamble either. But not now, sorry. It is set up on a tee for them, and they probably won't take a swing.

If by chance they do, I will be back on full homer mode, because then we will see they are actually trying to win a championship. As it is, they are trying to be competitive, to gain respect and sell tickets. Big difference, and Shane069 was right 8 years ago.

[Tribal Warfare]

Originally Posted by Wonton Prejudice

If Albert is traded and Joeckel busts, this is going to be an embarrassing season.

Alex Smith needs perfect pass protection or he's gonna die.

FYP

[Just Passin' By]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

I've dealt with the facts the whole time; you continue to sidestep them and essentially try to place yourself in an unassailable spot and/or simply excuse the front office regardless of the outcome.

You appear to be arguing that no matter what happens, Reid gets a pass for this pick. You're citing the 'weakness at the top of the class' as though no talent will come out of it. You seem to be ignoring the fact that this front office seems content to fill a hole that it's dying to create and somehow justifying the decision by again citing a weak draft class.

If the class is so !@#$ing weak, why make more holes in your roster? Or if it's only weak at the top, why spend #34 on a QB that's ceiling is slightly above average when the draft is actually quite deep from 15-40?

The front office has ****ed this up except for one possible scenario - Alex Smith does become a top 10 QB, Geno Smith does bust out and Joeckel/Fisher end up being clear improvements on Brandon Albert for a very long time.

But no, just keep on making excuses for the front office. This is just the same mindless contrarian bullshit that you spouted during the ***** regime - that's why I pointed it out.

It turns out you're not even a ***** ballwasher, you're just dittohead - "yes sir, front office, whatever you decide works for me and if you decide poorly...well that's okay, there wasn't an Andrew Luck just sitting there waiting for you."

GMs separate themselves from the pack in drafts like this one - not in drafts like the Luck draft. My wife could've made the Andrew Luck pick; I'm not impressed. If these guys are worth a shit at all they'll still make this team a lot better given the tools they inherited.

I suspect they won't, however.

I haven't sidestepped anything. Your argument is just really ****ing stupid.

[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by Just Passin' By

I haven't sidestepped anything. Your argument is just really ****ing stupid.

And yours doesn't exist. Let's all just blindly accept that Reid and Dorsey are right.

It worked out so well for you when your hero was in charge.

[beer bacon]

This is going to go down as one of our worst off seasons ever. Trade a 2nd plus change for a shitty, backup caliber QB so we can release our shitty, backup caliber QB. Trade away our proven, starting caliber LT to replace that second rounder we traded for a shitty, backup caliber QB. Use the number one overall pick on an LT to replace our proven, starting caliber LT we traded to replace the second rounder we traded for a shitty, backup caliber QB.

This is a surefire way to win some Super Bowls IMO. We just need to keep running in place and at some point the world will shift around us putting us in the Super Bowl.