U.S. Issues Boehner Extends Olive Branch on 'Fiscal Cliff'

**Donger** · 11-07-2012, 03:34 PM

http://www.cnbc.com/id/49731550

House Speaker John Boehner offered Wednesday to pursue a deal with a victorious President Barack Obama that will include higher taxes "under the right conditions" to help reduce the nation's staggering debt and put its finances in order.

"Mr. President, this is your moment," Boehner told reporters, speaking about the "fiscal cliff" that will hit in January. "We want you to lead."

Boehner said House Republicans are asking Obama "to make good on a balanced approach" that would including spending cuts and address government social benefit programs.

"Let's find the common ground that has eluded us," Boehner said while congratulating the president on winning a second term.

The Ohio Republican spoke a day after the president's clear re-election victory. He said conditions on higher taxes would include a revamped tax code to make it cleaner and fairer, fewer loopholes and lower rates for all.

The speaker noted that during one-on-one budget talks with the president in the summer of 2011, Obama had "endorsed the idea of tax reform and lower rates, including a top rate of lower than 35 percent," the present top rate.

"We're closer than we think to the critical mass needed legislatively to get tax reform done," he said.

Boehner did not specify what loopholes House Republicans might consider trimming. Nor did he take questions.

His comments were generally along the lines of proposals by vanquished Republican presidential candidate Mitt Romney that also were vague on specifics.

Still, the speaker's comments signaled a willingness to enter into talks. He suggested Congress could use its upcoming lame-duck session to get the ball moving on such a compromise.

"We can't solve the problem of our fiscal imbalance overnight...This is going to take time," he said.

**RNR** · 11-07-2012, 03:39 PM

Now that the right has been slapped down he has no choice but to try to work with the left. I have zero hope that things can be turned around but both parties put their toe on the line and the right was soundly defeated. I hope they try to get something ****ing done. Two parties and no choice~

BucEyedPea · 11-07-2012, 03:52 PM

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Originally Posted by RedNeckRaider

Now that the right has been slapped down he has no choice but to try to work with the left. I have zero hope that things can be turned around but both parties put their toe on the line and the right was soundly defeated. I hope they try to get something ****ing done. Two parties and no choice~

Boehner is a traitor who has made back door deals with the WH. He's a big govt republican.

kaplin42 · 11-07-2012, 04:05 PM

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Originally Posted by BucEyedPea

Boehner is a traitor who has made back door deals with the WH. He's a big govt republican.

LOL. Please tell me you are just trolling.

If not, this is everything that is wrong with the GOP. Someone actually tries to reach across the aisle and get something done for the good of the country, and because it doesn't align with the agenda of "**** that ****er" it means he's a traitor.

This is how fail the Pubs have become.

BucEyedPea · 11-07-2012, 04:38 PM

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Originally Posted by kaplin42

LOL. Please tell me you are just trolling.

Whatsomatta, you can't tolerate a different opinion than yours? You must be a liberal or progressive then.

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If not, this is everything that is wrong with the GOP.

In your opinion.

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Someone actually tries to reach across the aisle and get something done for the good of the country, and because it doesn't align with the agenda of "**** that ****er" it means he's a traitor.

That can also apply to Obama reaching across the aisle as well. You just want the reach to be one way— Obama's way. That's called One Party Rule which is never good. As for the good of the country, that's your opinion too. What you think is good may not be what I think is good. What is good or bad is a matter of opinion—not fact. I say spending needs to be cut. Obama's feet should be held to the fire on that. I'd say that even if Mitt won.

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This is how fail the Pubs have become.

In your opinion. If that were true, the Pubs would not have held the House and they did. That's where all spending bills must originate. That's also the People's House. The Presidential branch is not the People's House. That's per the Constitution.

Remember what Madison said about the House in Federalist Paper 58. I posted it earlier:

"This power over the purse may, in fact, be regarded as the most complete and effectual weapon with which any constitution can arm the immediate representatives of the people, for obtaining a redress of every grievance, and for carrying into effect every just and salutary measure." - Federalist Papers, No. 58, 1788

My guess is, you'd probably call James Madison, who wrote that a "troll" too.

Amnorix · 11-08-2012, 10:26 AM

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Originally Posted by kaplin42

LOL. Please tell me you are just trolling.

If not, this is everything that is wrong with the GOP. Someone actually tries to reach across the aisle and get something done for the good of the country, and because it doesn't align with the agenda of "**** that ****er" it means he's a traitor.

This is how fail the Pubs have become.

That's the Tea Party for you. Our way or **** OFF YOU UNPATRIOTIC NEO-CON SOCIALIST MARXIST COMMUNIST!!!

There's no room for negotiation or compromise. The whole concept doesn't even work in our form of government, but don't tell them that.

patteeu · 11-08-2012, 10:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Amnorix

That's the Tea Party for you. Our way or **** OFF YOU UNPATRIOTIC NEO-CON SOCIALIST MARXIST COMMUNIST!!!

There's no room for negotiation or compromise. The whole concept doesn't even work in our form of government, but don't tell them that.

You voted for Mitt Romney partially because you recognized that he'd be more capable of working with the other side than the incumbent, no? Do you blame that all on the GOP?

Edit: I misread what you were saying.

**alnorth** · 11-07-2012, 04:38 PM

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Originally Posted by BucEyedPea

Boehner is a traitor who has made back door deals with the WH. He's a big govt republican.

Boehner's really got no choice. If they don't work out a deal, the Bush tax cuts expire. Obama's not running for re-election, and the dems will probably point to some middle-class tax cut that the house rejected when they run in 2014.

BucEyedPea · 11-07-2012, 04:42 PM

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Originally Posted by alnorth

Boehner's really got no choice. If they don't work out a deal, the Bush tax cuts expire. Obama's not running for re-election, and the dems will probably point to some middle-class tax cut that the house rejected when they run in 2014.

I disagree. I think both sides need to make some compromise —not just one. Why does the middle-class need a tax cut anyway? I say cut spending first. Then taxes can be discussed after that. Spending NEVER makes it to the cutting board —EV'R. That's what needs to change. Not just the tax side.

The fact still is, Boehner has made back door deals with Obama. He's a big spending big govt Republican.

Brock · 11-07-2012, 04:48 PM

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Originally Posted by BucEyedPea

Why does the middle-class need a tax cut anyway?

You'll find out when the middle class does their taxes next year and find that they have to pay thousands instead of getting a refund. They don't have it to pay.

**RNR** · 11-07-2012, 05:51 PM

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Originally Posted by BucEyedPea

Boehner is a traitor who has made back door deals with the WH. He's a big govt republican.

I am no fan but it is what it is. The American people have made their decision so he will have to deal with those in power rather he likes it or not. I have been pretty clear on my feelings. At this point gridlock will no longer be tolerated. Go to ****ing work and get something done. Work with in the reality of the situation. Pouting and throwing a fit will not work. A bad plan is better than no plan~

DJ's left nut · 11-07-2012, 05:53 PM

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Originally Posted by RedNeckRaider

I am no fan but it is what it is. The American people have made their decision so he will have to deal with those in power rather he likes it or not. I have been pretty clear on my feelings. At this point gridlock will no longer be tolerated. Go to ****ing work and get something done. Work with in the reality of the situation. Pouting and throwing a fit will not work. A bad plan is better than no plan~

God love the left...

"Please government...do SOMETHING!!!"

Typical.

BucEyedPea · 11-07-2012, 05:56 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

God love the left...

"Please government...do SOMETHING!!!"

Typical.

lickspittles

and they want to rest of us to be lickspittles too.

HolyHandgernade · 11-07-2012, 05:59 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

God love the left...

"Please government...do SOMETHING!!!"

Typical.

I'm sorry DJ, what private enterprise were you expecting to step in and do this work?

**RNR** · 11-07-2012, 06:06 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

God love the left...

"Please government...do SOMETHING!!!"

Typical.

I am embarrassed by the choice our country made. If you have ever read a word from me you know I am far from the left. I am very proud to say the shit stain in office did not get my vote. I am also proud that my home state and the state I live in now tried to vote this administration out of office. It is what it is these assholes work for us so get to ****ing work. The cold hard facts are we have two parties and no choice~

11-07-2012, 03:34 PM	Topic Starter
Donger "Think BOOM!" Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: 33.675° N 106.475° W Casino cash: $0 VARSITY	Boehner Extends Olive Branch on 'Fiscal Cliff' http://www.cnbc.com/id/49731550 House Speaker John Boehner offered Wednesday to pursue a deal with a victorious President Barack Obama that will include higher taxes "under the right conditions" to help reduce the nation's staggering debt and put its finances in order. "Mr. President, this is your moment," Boehner told reporters, speaking about the "fiscal cliff" that will hit in January. "We want you to lead." Boehner said House Republicans are asking Obama "to make good on a balanced approach" that would including spending cuts and address government social benefit programs. "Let's find the common ground that has eluded us," Boehner said while congratulating the president on winning a second term. The Ohio Republican spoke a day after the president's clear re-election victory. He said conditions on higher taxes would include a revamped tax code to make it cleaner and fairer, fewer loopholes and lower rates for all. The speaker noted that during one-on-one budget talks with the president in the summer of 2011, Obama had "endorsed the idea of tax reform and lower rates, including a top rate of lower than 35 percent," the present top rate. "We're closer than we think to the critical mass needed legislatively to get tax reform done," he said. Boehner did not specify what loopholes House Republicans might consider trimming. Nor did he take questions. His comments were generally along the lines of proposals by vanquished Republican presidential candidate Mitt Romney that also were vague on specifics. Still, the speaker's comments signaled a willingness to enter into talks. He suggested Congress could use its upcoming lame-duck session to get the ball moving on such a compromise. "We can't solve the problem of our fiscal imbalance overnight...This is going to take time," he said.
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