Royals 2013 Kansas City Royals Repository Thread - Page 616

duncan_idaho · 10:01 AM

Proposed 2013 Slogan: Tigers: They're what's for dinner
Actual 2013 Slogan: Come to Play
A better, more accurate, or alternative slogan: All in, no panic, we promise.

Dayton Moore has pushed all his chips in and is riding on King/Jack suited, hoping it comes together, he gets some good luck, and he hits the nuts by the river card. There's potential, oh yes, there's potential. There's also risk.

At the midway point, Dayton is left counting on the river card. The flop and turn didn't help him, and he's looking at the Tigers holding a pair of Queens and the Indians holding a pair of 9s. His 2013 plan hasn't failed - yet - but the odds are not in his favor.

Burning questions updates below.

Burning Questions for 2013:

1) Will the improve rotation be improved enough? Does James Shields pitch like a fringe No. 1 away from Tampa Bay? Does Ervin Santana pitch to his highest upside in his walk year? Can Jeremy Guthrie build on his strong performance as a Royal in 2012? Can Wade Davis bring his new mentality- and velocity - back to the rotation?

Midseason check-in: Yes, the rotation is certainly improved enough. Shields has pitched like a fringe No. 1 and Santana is having his best season. Guthrie has horrible peripherals but has continued to perform well at his home park and eat innings on the road. Davis brought neither his kick-ass mentality or improved velocity back to the rotation and is in Luke Hochevar/Hiram Davies territory.

2) When will Luke Hochevar be shown the door?
Midseason check-in: It appears, never, at this point. Hochevar has been solid in non-leverage situations, though pretty much every time he has been used with men on base in an inning, it has been a disaster.

3) Does Hosmer bounce back?
Midseason check-in: It took some time, but Hosmer's performance from June 1 on is probably the most encouraging thing about the 2013 season so far.
4) Can Moustakas hit for a whole season like he did in the first half of 2012?
Midseason check-in: Nope. Moustakas was god-awful, then great for about 3 weeks, then god-awful again. He has been better since he started working with Brett and Grafol but still has a long way to go.
5) Who regresses?
Midseason check-in: Welp, Alicides Escobar is not a surprising name here (though Yost's stubborn insistence on hitting him second is ridiculous). Billy Butler is a surprise. He isn't having a terrible year - still contributing a lot to the offense - but he's not hitting for the average or power he has displayed over the past several years.
6) Who plays 2B?
Midseason check-in: A whole bunch of people, and not that great. Gio is at least getting a shot, though he once again is not doing much with it.
7) Can Jeff Francoeur be at least replacement level, rather than epic horrible level?
Midseason check-in: Hahahahahahahahahahaha
8) Will Dayton Moore survive to see 2014?
Midseason check-in: Outlook uncertain. Probably still around, unless the team completely tanks in the second half and he does something foolish. My guess - he sacrifices Ned Yost this offseason and gets one more shot with a new manager in 2014.
9) Will Danny Duffy come back healthy? And if he does, is he the same, better or worse?
Midseason check-in: Yes. Velocity looks the same, and it looks likely he is the same guy as before.
10) And the big one: Has KC added enough to run down the big-money Detroit Tigers?
Midseason check-in: Doesn't look like it, does it?

BlackHelicopters · 08-11-2013, 07:30 AM

Keep the Faith, my Royals brethren. Also hurry back LOCain. Won't hold my breath on the latter.

Raiderhater · 08-11-2013, 07:45 AM

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Originally Posted by CaliforniaChief

I just have a sense that Shields is going to rebound big and pitch lights-out awesome tomorrow. We can get Lackey.

Doesn't he get Salvy back today? While in no way completely responsible for the the pitching staffs struggles this week, having crap behind the plate has to have had at least some impact.

BlackHelicopters · 08-11-2013, 07:50 AM

The injury situation is disturbing. We have been lucky. It is August, and players get hurt. But no more, please.

**Nzoner** · 08-11-2013, 07:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Three7s

Only issue with this is a 5-game series in Detroit coming up, whom is probably the best team in baseball at this point.

You want to be the best you have to......

Also within the next 10 days Baltimore has a series with Tampa and Oakland has a series with Cleveland,KC just has to keep their focus on their own games and let the other crap play out.

BlackHelicopters · 08-11-2013, 07:57 AM

Focus today and win this series. Vital.

chiefqueen · 08-11-2013, 08:16 AM

Last night while talking to Phiz & Hud Darrin Hurstead mentioned Gordon's wife was due @ any moment. My questions are once his wife has the kid does the CBA require Gordon to go on the paternity list even if she has the kid tonight and he is able to attend the birth and his wife gives her permission for him to play?

If question one is yes is Gordon required to be 3 days and not just 3 games (we play 2 games on Friday this week) or could he come sooner if everything goes smoothly?

Don't get me wrong I'm glad Gordon's wife is about to have another kid but in 4 days the Royals may begin their most important series in more than a decade. It's kind of a bummer if CBA rules mandate that our best player must sit out 4 of the 5 games because of the timing of the arrival of his new baby.

Here's hoping the baby decides to make his/her grand entrance into this world either tonight or before 7:00 PM tomorrow. We may be able to beat Miami w/o Gordo but we ain't beating Detroit w/o him.

kstater · 08-11-2013, 08:40 AM

Paternity leave is voluntary.

Demonpenz · 08-11-2013, 09:17 AM

if you had to sit out a game every time you had a baby Dyson would playing until 2015

Demonpenz · 08-11-2013, 09:18 AM

if you had to sit out everytime your kid was born dyson wouldn't ever play

mr. tegu · 08-11-2013, 10:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by theelusiveeightrop

Focus today and win this series. Vital.

Yep. Definitely need to win this game and be confident with a weaker opponent coming into tomorrow. A nice four game win streak heading to Detroit would be great.

KevB · 08-11-2013, 10:21 AM

Tejada to the DL, Falu up from Omaha. Does that mean EJ is the starting 2B? Good lord, that can't be the answer.

Meanwhile, Salvy is back today, batting 5th. Hayes and Joseph sent back down, Wade Davis back with the club.

Archie F. Swin · 08-11-2013, 10:25 AM

Here's to hoping that Big Game James shows up at 1:10pm central.

Sure-Oz · 08-11-2013, 10:26 AM

Falu should be starting over EJ

mr. tegu · 08-11-2013, 10:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KevB

Tejada to the DL, Falu up from Omaha. Does that mean EJ is the starting 2B? Good lord, that can't be the answer.

Ugh. We are the Royals. We deserve some good luck for crying out loud!

**DeezNutz** · 08-11-2013, 10:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KevB

Tejada to the DL, Falu up from Omaha. Does that mean EJ is the starting 2B? Good lord, that can't be the answer.

Meanwhile, Salvy is back today, batting 5th. Hayes and Joseph sent back down, Wade Davis back with the club.

ffffffuuuuuuccccccckkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk.

Johnson, literally, cannot hit, and we cannot afford to bat 8 (or 7 if Escobar is going full himself).

I'd have to think that bringing up Colon to see if we can catch lightning wouldn't be the worst approach.

12-11-2012, 09:59 AM
duncan_idaho M-I-Z-Z-O-U Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Kansas City Casino cash: $1790308	2013 Kansas City Royals Repository Thread Proposed 2013 Slogan: Tigers: They're what's for dinner Actual 2013 Slogan: Come to Play A better, more accurate, or alternative slogan: All in, no panic, we promise. Dayton Moore has pushed all his chips in and is riding on King/Jack suited, hoping it comes together, he gets some good luck, and he hits the nuts by the river card. There's potential, oh yes, there's potential. There's also risk. At the midway point, Dayton is left counting on the river card. The flop and turn didn't help him, and he's looking at the Tigers holding a pair of Queens and the Indians holding a pair of 9s. His 2013 plan hasn't failed - yet - but the odds are not in his favor. Burning questions updates below. Burning Questions for 2013: 1) Will the improve rotation be improved enough? Does James Shields pitch like a fringe No. 1 away from Tampa Bay? Does Ervin Santana pitch to his highest upside in his walk year? Can Jeremy Guthrie build on his strong performance as a Royal in 2012? Can Wade Davis bring his new mentality- and velocity - back to the rotation? Midseason check-in: Yes, the rotation is certainly improved enough. Shields has pitched like a fringe No. 1 and Santana is having his best season. Guthrie has horrible peripherals but has continued to perform well at his home park and eat innings on the road. Davis brought neither his kick-ass mentality or improved velocity back to the rotation and is in Luke Hochevar/Hiram Davies territory. 2) When will Luke Hochevar be shown the door? Midseason check-in: It appears, never, at this point. Hochevar has been solid in non-leverage situations, though pretty much every time he has been used with men on base in an inning, it has been a disaster. 3) Does Hosmer bounce back? Midseason check-in: It took some time, but Hosmer's performance from June 1 on is probably the most encouraging thing about the 2013 season so far. 4) Can Moustakas hit for a whole season like he did in the first half of 2012? Midseason check-in: Nope. Moustakas was god-awful, then great for about 3 weeks, then god-awful again. He has been better since he started working with Brett and Grafol but still has a long way to go. 5) Who regresses? Midseason check-in: Welp, Alicides Escobar is not a surprising name here (though Yost's stubborn insistence on hitting him second is ridiculous). Billy Butler is a surprise. He isn't having a terrible year - still contributing a lot to the offense - but he's not hitting for the average or power he has displayed over the past several years. 6) Who plays 2B? Midseason check-in: A whole bunch of people, and not that great. Gio is at least getting a shot, though he once again is not doing much with it. 7) Can Jeff Francoeur be at least replacement level, rather than epic horrible level? Midseason check-in: Hahahahahahahahahahaha 8) Will Dayton Moore survive to see 2014? Midseason check-in: Outlook uncertain. Probably still around, unless the team completely tanks in the second half and he does something foolish. My guess - he sacrifices Ned Yost this offseason and gets one more shot with a new manager in 2014. 9) Will Danny Duffy come back healthy? And if he does, is he the same, better or worse? Midseason check-in: Yes. Velocity looks the same, and it looks likely he is the same guy as before. 10) And the big one: Has KC added enough to run down the big-money Detroit Tigers? Midseason check-in: Doesn't look like it, does it? Last edited by duncan_idaho; 07-15-2013 at 10:01 AM..
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BlackHelicopters Spiraling down the Drain Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: Dante's Ninth Circle Casino cash: $2750588	The injury situation is disturbing. We have been lucky. It is August, and players get hurt. But no more, please. __________________ "We're both part of the same hypocrisy, Senator, but never think it applies to my family." "Fredo. You are my brother, and I love you. But never take sides against the Family again. Ever." 2019 Adopt a Chief - Travis Kelce #87
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08-11-2013, 07:57 AM	#9230
BlackHelicopters Spiraling down the Drain Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: Dante's Ninth Circle Casino cash: $2750588	Focus today and win this series. Vital. __________________ "We're both part of the same hypocrisy, Senator, but never think it applies to my family." "Fredo. You are my brother, and I love you. But never take sides against the Family again. Ever." 2019 Adopt a Chief - Travis Kelce #87
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08-11-2013, 08:16 AM	#9231
chiefqueen On my throne Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Kansas City, MO Casino cash: $8192060	Last night while talking to Phiz & Hud Darrin Hurstead mentioned Gordon's wife was due @ any moment. My questions are once his wife has the kid does the CBA require Gordon to go on the paternity list even if she has the kid tonight and he is able to attend the birth and his wife gives her permission for him to play? If question one is yes is Gordon required to be 3 days and not just 3 games (we play 2 games on Friday this week) or could he come sooner if everything goes smoothly? Don't get me wrong I'm glad Gordon's wife is about to have another kid but in 4 days the Royals may begin their most important series in more than a decade. It's kind of a bummer if CBA rules mandate that our best player must sit out 4 of the 5 games because of the timing of the arrival of his new baby. Here's hoping the baby decides to make his/her grand entrance into this world either tonight or before 7:00 PM tomorrow. We may be able to beat Miami w/o Gordo but we ain't beating Detroit w/o him.
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