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Old 08-11-2008, 08:00 PM  
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Should the Chiefs have drafted Aaron Rodgers over Derrick Johnson?
Would we have been in a better position now???

Rodgers would have gotten to learn from Trent Green a few years....

Hmmmm....thoughts to ponder.



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Old 08-12-2008, 10:03 AM   #76
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AJ hawk, nick barnett, Derrick johnson would have been a nice linebacking core
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Old 08-12-2008, 11:36 AM   #77
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Should the Chiefs have drafted Aaron Rodgers over Derrick Johnson?
No Carl should have kept his damn mouth shut last year instead of publicly stating he would take Brady Quinn if he was still on the board. The Browns conveniently traded one spot ahead of us and took him.
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Old 08-12-2008, 11:44 AM   #78
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No Carl should have kept his damn mouth shut last year instead of publicly stating he would take Brady Quinn if he was still on the board. The Browns conveniently traded one spot ahead of us and took him.
Yeah we picked some scrub though with our pick. Besides Quinn was projected as a top 10 pick, it was pure luck he dropped.
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Old 08-12-2008, 11:45 AM   #79
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Old 08-12-2008, 12:01 PM   #80
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Tedford is known as a groomer of NFL quarterbacks. Once in the NFL, however, they tend to experience very limited success. He coached each of the following first round NFL draft picks at the quarterback position:

* Fresno State
o Trent Dilfer 6th overall 1994, Tampa Bay Buccaneers

* Oregon
o Akili Smith 3rd overall 1999, Cincinnati Bengals
o Joey Harrington 3rd overall 2002, Detroit Lions

* California
o Kyle Boller 19th overall 2003, Baltimore Ravens
o Aaron Rodgers 24th overall 2005, Green Bay Packers

Tedford also coached Billy Volek, a backup quarterback for the San Diego Chargers, and A.J. Feeley, a backup quarterback for the Philadelphia Eagles. Dilfer won a Super Bowl with the Baltimore Ravens.
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Old 08-12-2008, 12:09 PM   #81
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1. Imagine our linebacking core right now without DJ. Nap Harris hasn't looked great & is hurt, his plausible replacement Thomas hasn't proven anything yet, Edwards is aging and down with a hammy. Take DJ out of the LB equation and IMO they go from a C rating to an F.

2. Rodgers hasn't proven anything yet. The people that know him best, the Packers coaches and front office, spent a 2nd round pick on Brohm. Little question mark there.

3. Gunther is not god to me, but I'd trust him to develop a linebacker before I would've trusted Solari and Herm to develop a QB.

4. Rodgers would've probably missed at least training camp and possibly preseason in a hold-out, as King Carl would've struggled to pony up the money for a high draft pick QB. This would've put AR farther behind in his development if he was with KC instead of GB, couple that missed time with a Herm and Solari led development, and you might have the chemistry for a Ryan Leaf experience.

5. If AR proves to be injury prone to even the slightest degree, you absolutely don't want him behind OUR O-line.

6. You really have to give DJ through this year to prove himself one way or the other. Hopefully he'll spend more time on the sideline watching our offense play and catching his breath, so we can see how he produces when he's not totally spent from spending 85% of the 60 minute game on the field.
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God, this is ****ing lame. Derrick Johnson has already proven himself. He's worthy of a long-term contract.
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Old 08-12-2008, 12:14 PM   #83
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God, this is ****ing lame. Derrick Johnson has already proven himself. He's worthy of a long-term contract.

Nobody is saying DJ wasnt a good pick and isnt a good player. He is.

Its all about value. Personally, id rather have a young franchise QB than a solid outside linebacker. Its obviously a higher impact position.
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God, this is ****ing lame. Derrick Johnson has already proven himself. He's worthy of a long-term contract.
I agree, alot guys on this board seem to want to see him as a future HOF guy and a perenial pro bowler. I'm just sayin give him this year before writing him off as just above average, I think he could be that guy.
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Nobody is saying DJ wasnt a good pick and isnt a good player. He is.

Its all about value. Personally, id rather have a young franchise QB than a solid outside linebacker. Its obviously a higher impact position.
Rodgers isn't a "young franchise QB." He's a three-year backup, picked later in the first-round, with a terrible history surrounding the guy who coached him.

This is one of the worst threads on the Planet in a while. F**king laughable.

Oh, and Keith Rivers isn't even close to as good as DJ.
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This is one of the worst threads on the Planet in a while. F**king laughable.
Your right. I probably should have worded the question differently.

"In the draft, Do you value a potential Franchise QB higher or a solid outside linebacker?"

Anyhow, this will be a fun thread to bump at the end of the year.
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"In the draft, Do you value a potential Franchise QB higher or a solid outside linebacker?"
Pointless question. Everyone would take a "potential franchise QB" over a "solid LB." Just like everyone would take a stud LB over a nothing QB.

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Anyhow, this will be a fun thread to bump at the end of the year.
Why? DJ was the right pick without any question whatsoever. Even IF Rodgers was to do well and DJ didn't breakout, it's a complete non-question.
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Your right. I probably should have worded the question differently.

"In the draft, Do you value a potential Franchise QB higher or a solid outside linebacker?"

Anyhow, this will be a fun thread to bump at the end of the year.
Dude please, you mean a potential bust or a solid OLB

come on man - with all due respsect, this is seriously, stupid.
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