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Old 04-26-2009, 03:13 AM  
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Can someone tell me why the Chiefs are forcing the 3-4 defense

when they have 4-3 personnel? It seems to go against what they stated in trying to match the personnel to the right system rather than the system to the personnel.
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Old 04-26-2009, 03:16 AM   #2
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Well, our personnel didn't work in that system last year. Maybe it was coaching, maybe not, but something has to be done differently.

Besides, Pioli comes from a 3-4 background.
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Old 04-26-2009, 03:16 AM   #3
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All new regimes put in the schemes/systems they like, it was inevitable.

Every team Scott Pioli has been with has been a 3-4 team.

It's not like we have good personnel anyway we ranked 30th in defense.
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Old 04-26-2009, 03:19 AM   #4
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We didn't really have 4-3 personnel...

we had 2-14 personnel.

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Old 04-26-2009, 03:20 AM   #5
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The only player it screws with is Dorsey....I don't think anyone is to concerned that Tamba Hali won't convert well seeing as he sucks anyway.
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Old 04-26-2009, 03:20 AM   #6
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This entire team needed a cleansing.
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Old 04-26-2009, 03:23 AM   #7
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Old 04-26-2009, 03:23 AM   #8
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true but the 3-4 seems to be latest fad these days and a good NT is hard to find. Staying with the 4-3 when the majority of other teams are going with 3-4 would seem to make it easier to find more players rather than competing with all the other 3-4 teams for those type of players. The Chiefs always seem to be behind the curve on NFL trends. i.e. the cover two
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Old 04-26-2009, 03:24 AM   #9
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true but the 3-4 seems to be latest fad these days and a good NT is hard to find. Staying with the 4-3 when the majority of other teams are going with 3-4 would seem to make it easier to find more players rather than competing with all the other 3-4 teams for those type of players. The Chiefs always seem to be behind the curve on NFL trends. i.e. the cover two
It's about 50/50 on 4-3 3-4 now...and no one runs cover 2 anymore.

If you believe in Pioli then he should be able to get the players he's been working for that system his whole career. That's probably better than asking him to get players for a scheme he isn't familiar with.
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Old 04-26-2009, 03:29 AM   #10
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It's about 50/50 on 4-3 3-4 now...and no one runs cover 2 anymore.

If you believe in Pioli then he should be able to get the players he's been working for that system his whole career. That's probably better than asking him to get players for a scheme he isn't familiar with.
Excuse me, I meant Tampa Two....but yeah I get what you mean
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Old 04-26-2009, 03:50 AM   #11
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true but the 3-4 seems to be latest fad these days and a good NT is hard to find. Staying with the 4-3 when the majority of other teams are going with 3-4 would seem to make it easier to find more players rather than competing with all the other 3-4 teams for those type of players. The Chiefs always seem to be behind the curve on NFL trends. i.e. the cover two
I don't think it's the same thing. I still think there are lots of front offices that have no idea how to build a 3-4 defense. I don't think it's a "fad." I think it's a legitimately better NFL defense if you can build it right. I am a big fan of the defense. And while nose tackles can be hard to find, getting one nose tackle is easier than getting two defensive ends. That's the main reason you look to the 3-4.
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Old 04-26-2009, 05:58 AM   #12
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when they have 4-3 personnel? It seems to go against what they stated in trying to match the personnel to the right system rather than the system to the personnel.
Because the 4-3 personnel you reference SUCKS?
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Old 04-26-2009, 06:52 AM   #13
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It seems easier to plug in role players specifically at LB than it is in a 4-3. Look at Pittsburg. They've had long term success plugging in different pieces. They let people go through free agency all the time and just plug in someone else.
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Old 04-26-2009, 06:57 AM   #14
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Old 04-26-2009, 07:00 AM   #15
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I thought this quote from Pioli yesterday was interesting...........

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"How quickly he makes an impact is to be seen,'' Pioli said. "The history of the (first-round) defensive linemen I've been with, whether that's Vince Wilfork, Ty Warren or Richard Seymour, people see what those players become their second and third years. They forget what they were as rookies. Richard Seymour as a rookie struggled tremendously as did Ty Warren as did Vince Wilfork. All three of those players as rookies were not good players.


Yet we've got bozos in here that have Dorsey labeled as a bust after 10 games and people that say he can't play in a 30 front.
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